Now that this thread seems to be winding down, it seems appropriate to toss in the best marketing/engineering joke I've heard over the years.
A few folks are out for a hot air balloon ride when the wind took them out over the ocean. Lost, they spot a boat and decide to release some air for a closer visit. When within earshot, one guy in the balloon yells to the single person in the boat, "Hey, can you tell me where we are?"
"You're in the gondola of a hot air balloon, approximately fifty feet above the surface of the water", came the reply.
"You must be an engineer", said the balloonist.
"Why yes I am, how did you know?"
"Everything you told me is 100% accurate, but of no use to me whatsoever."
"You must be in marketing", said the engineer.
"Why yes I am, how did you know?"
"You are out in the middle of nowhere with no idea where you are, what you're doing, or where you're going. You are in the same situation now as before we met, yet somehow it is now my fault."
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