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airspirit · 01-10-2004, 08:06 PM

I can say bad things about Gentoo or any other OS. I can just say many more bad things about windows. As for "if your browser didn't suck", many pages actually will default you to the error page based ONLY on your browser string, not any compatibility issues. Many pages that I know would work perfectly barf out because of these hardcoded flags.

I have never, however, outside of office (in which I point only to Access, Excel, and to a lesser extent Word) found a microsoft product that was LESS hassle than the similar OS product. Granted, it typically takes longer to set up an OS server OR desktop, but in the end the maintenance nearly disappears. One problem child at work who caused numerous virus outbreaks, network breaches, and other problems was no longer a problem the moment I moved him to Linux, and furthermore I only needed to spend less than an hour to get him accustomed to the new system.

When I hear a shop is using windows servers and products, I think "incompetant". As for the email servers, my father in law runs a set of email servers that route hundreds of thousands of email messages per day and it is strictly OS software. Ever since they got rid of Exchange they haven't had any more server nightmares ....

I'm not a zealot by any means: I just recognize what works. Just because YOU may not understand how to run the OS software and haven't experienced the lowered tech staffing it brings doesn't mean it's not a good thing. I've run it all, and I PREFER the OS stuff, even though I have the budget to go either way.

As for constant security issues, give me a break. There has been one major breach in a less common (I.E. not in your server) kernel version in the last six months. If you fall victim to that you don't deserve your job. There is no constant patching at all. Regardless of the PR and FUD MS spreads (which you seem to have swallowed), the issues that OS software faces is miniscule compared to the crap MS sells.

But hey, whatever makes you feel justified in wasting money and helps you sleep at night ....

01-10-2004, 08:06 PM	#19
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	I can say bad things about Gentoo or any other OS. I can just say many more bad things about windows. As for "if your browser didn't suck", many pages actually will default you to the error page based ONLY on your browser string, not any compatibility issues. Many pages that I know would work perfectly barf out because of these hardcoded flags. I have never, however, outside of office (in which I point only to Access, Excel, and to a lesser extent Word) found a microsoft product that was LESS hassle than the similar OS product. Granted, it typically takes longer to set up an OS server OR desktop, but in the end the maintenance nearly disappears. One problem child at work who caused numerous virus outbreaks, network breaches, and other problems was no longer a problem the moment I moved him to Linux, and furthermore I only needed to spend less than an hour to get him accustomed to the new system. When I hear a shop is using windows servers and products, I think "incompetant". As for the email servers, my father in law runs a set of email servers that route hundreds of thousands of email messages per day and it is strictly OS software. Ever since they got rid of Exchange they haven't had any more server nightmares .... I'm not a zealot by any means: I just recognize what works. Just because YOU may not understand how to run the OS software and haven't experienced the lowered tech staffing it brings doesn't mean it's not a good thing. I've run it all, and I PREFER the OS stuff, even though I have the budget to go either way. As for constant security issues, give me a break. There has been one major breach in a less common (I.E. not in your server) kernel version in the last six months. If you fall victim to that you don't deserve your job. There is no constant patching at all. Regardless of the PR and FUD MS spreads (which you seem to have swallowed), the issues that OS software faces is miniscule compared to the crap MS sells. But hey, whatever makes you feel justified in wasting money and helps you sleep at night .... __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied