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iroc409 · 01-24-2004, 05:01 AM

it's really a fairly interesting predicament. i think a lot of it is just going to come down to how much the companies of the tcg care about their consumers. coming from microsoft's perspective, i honestly doubt that's a whole lot.

i think it's going to be difficult to except from the more intelligent users out there. and in that market, microsoft may suffer greatly. however, from what i've heard, it's going to be marketed under the ruse of a "more secure, stable and safe machine". for the masses, this is what they're going to be looking at, and they're not going to be truly concerned with what that means (at least until something bad happens).

you also have to look at money. the tcg has a ton of money, by itself. but i'm sure that part of this had to be influenced by groups such as the riaa and mpaa. combine those two, and you have a very large chunk of change. i'm sure both groups would be more than happy to grease some palms through the tcg to get something like this on the market. and, of course the government will be interested (especially with things around like the patriot act, dmca, and that sort).

so, you have a ton of push behind it. and look at some consumers, that simply will have no choice whatsoever to switch. there are a lot of companies that simply will not be able to find an alternative to, or that it won't affect they're day-to-day operations enough to justify (at the time) a switch to something less obtrusive.

i do not believe apple to be a part of the tcg, but i could be mistaken. it could mean a lot of biz for apple, true. apple still has some catching up to do, but there are a lot of products out there that simply aren't available in a reasonable form for unix at this time, so the obvious switch will be to mac, if at all (in certain environments).

i dread that day, however. granted, mac's aren't quite up to speed with the pc world, but they're fairly close, and no doubt usable. but it's the mac community, the users (and steve jobs) that i can't stand (and i'm talking of the majority of mac users i've dealt with).

but that's for another thread.

i know someone who works for microsoft, i should be getting in contact with them, to see if i can confirm any of this. possibly, not sure on that though.

01-24-2004, 05:01 AM	#6
iroc409 Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: midwest side, yo Posts: 596	it's really a fairly interesting predicament. i think a lot of it is just going to come down to how much the companies of the tcg care about their consumers. coming from microsoft's perspective, i honestly doubt that's a whole lot. i think it's going to be difficult to except from the more intelligent users out there. and in that market, microsoft may suffer greatly. however, from what i've heard, it's going to be marketed under the ruse of a "more secure, stable and safe machine". for the masses, this is what they're going to be looking at, and they're not going to be truly concerned with what that means (at least until something bad happens). you also have to look at money. the tcg has a ton of money, by itself. but i'm sure that part of this had to be influenced by groups such as the riaa and mpaa. combine those two, and you have a very large chunk of change. i'm sure both groups would be more than happy to grease some palms through the tcg to get something like this on the market. and, of course the government will be interested (especially with things around like the patriot act, dmca, and that sort). so, you have a ton of push behind it. and look at some consumers, that simply will have no choice whatsoever to switch. there are a lot of companies that simply will not be able to find an alternative to, or that it won't affect they're day-to-day operations enough to justify (at the time) a switch to something less obtrusive. i do not believe apple to be a part of the tcg, but i could be mistaken. it could mean a lot of biz for apple, true. apple still has some catching up to do, but there are a lot of products out there that simply aren't available in a reasonable form for unix at this time, so the obvious switch will be to mac, if at all (in certain environments). i dread that day, however. granted, mac's aren't quite up to speed with the pc world, but they're fairly close, and no doubt usable. but it's the mac community, the users (and steve jobs) that i can't stand (and i'm talking of the majority of mac users i've dealt with). but that's for another thread. i know someone who works for microsoft, i should be getting in contact with them, to see if i can confirm any of this. possibly, not sure on that though. __________________ :shrug: