Papst 4412F/2GLs. How Many Should QuietPC Order/Stock?

[DrCR]

From a post over at SilentPCReview (SPCR), link to post.

Originally Posted by frankgehry

Dave at QuietPC.com is at our request investigating the possibility of stocking the Papst fan model - 4412F/2GL. They have stores in the UK, AU, CA, etc.. Another poll will be taken at the ProCooling Forum. - FG

High on recommended fan list

SPECS:

size=120x120x25
cfm=55.3
max rpm=1600
rpm sensing=yes
description=Papst 4412

The Top SPCR Quiet 120mm Axial Fans Compared + 120mmAC Fans.

This has been one of the best choices for heatercore/rad apps when quietness is desired. The 4412 has been unavailable in the US maket, as far as I know, since Directron stopped carring the line. And unlike Directron's old stock, this version of the 4412, the F/2GL, has RPM signal output.

Just wanted to post this over here to let everyone know of the opportunity. This is not a group buy. Just simply to get an idea of how many Dave should order/stock.

Edit: If anyone what's to post this over at another forum, feel free. Just let me and FG know. Thanks.

DrCR

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[pHaestus]

I didn't vote but I'd probably buy 2 or 3 for my fan collection

[Voodoo Rufus]

Two. One for my rad, one for case exhaust.

[Risky]

Can't say without a price.

[DrCR]

Originally Posted by Risky

Can't say without a price.

FG will be walking with Dave later today or tomorrow, so a general idea of the price/fan should be formed then. FYI about 35 or so fans are requested so far.

DrCR

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[andy497]

What about that review makes the papst fans better than the already available nexus/yate loons?

I can find those around for roughly $5 still (actually I plan to order two more this week).

It sounds like the papst flow is better but at the expense of noise?

[Etacovda]

OT
gah, i need some yate loons and have been searching for a while now, does anyone know where to source them from that will ship internationally?
/OT

[DrCR]

Originally Posted by andy497

What about that review makes the papst fans better than the already available nexus/yate loons?

I can find those around for roughly $5 still (actually I plan to order two more this week).

It sounds like the papst flow is better but at the expense of noise?

You can get the D12SM-12s from PCTekOnline for ~$5.50. Maybe that's what you are already referring too.

Simply put, the Nexus/YateLoon isn't an excellent choice on a heatercore. If I was pushing for the absolute quietest setup with much less regard for performance (which may fit you), I would go the Nexus/YL route on the thinnest heatercore I could find i.e. <1". Though true, I personally would go with the Sunon AC route, but very few have gone through the hassle, mainly since most quiet/silent geeks that are watercoolers like the Reseratior. Most hardcore quiet/silent geeks aren't even watercoolers. A XP120 w/ a Nexus/YL at Vmin does them just fine. Then again...they aren't looking for 3GHz out of their A64s lol.

A Nexus/YateLoon in a farly unrestrictive environment, like say a compuer case with cut out fan grills and excellent cable routing, the Nexus/YL would be the better choice over a 4412 hands down. Slap that Nexus/YL on a heatercore, esp. one thicher than 1", and the 4412 becomes the better option.

In a nutshell, every product has its knack. For a Nexus/YL, high restictive enviroments just aren't one of them. Welcome the 4412.


... I wouldn't mind getting my hands on a Yate Loon D14SL/M-12 though... Yate Loon also makes a 38mm version of their D12s. The D12SL/M-12D. That would probably a good heatercore choice. Even with zero experience with the D model, I would venture to say it's the only SPCR or near SPCR quiet spec 38mm DC fan out here.

Originally Posted by Etacovda

OT
gah, i need some yate loons and have been searching for a while now, does anyone know where to source them from that will ship internationally?
/OT

Not sure where you're located, but this SPCR thread might help.
Who would buy Yate Loons in Europe? (Update, price info)
It's a current thread. Go ahead and post/vote so Aleksi can get a good idea.

DrCR

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[DrCR]

To the guy how polled interest in >10. How many are you interested in?

Thanks,
DrCR

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[Turbokeu]

I have one...
One too much.
No noise, but but NO airflow too.
I prefer my Panaflo L1A's...

CD

[DrCR]

Originally Posted by Turbokeu

I have one...
One too much.
No noise, but but NO airflow too.
I prefer my Panaflo L1A's...

The *old* L1As were great. Some oldschoolers at SPCR use them. But the new 120mm L1As are just shaddows the of the older batches when noise is considered.

As far as I'm concerned, the 4412 puts out a good bit of air, esp. at 12V. Then again, I like to acheive seriously powerful cooling while doing it all very quietly.

[Rusty075]

My big issue with Papst fans has always been the stunningly poor consistency. Out of a batch of 5 you'd get one really good one, one with bearing noise, and three with The Click of Death. Order just one, and its a roll of the dice. I haven't seen any evidence that the situation has improved; if anything it's rumored to have gotten worse with their outsourcing of the manufacturing. (which was also the downfall of the L1A's)

That's the real reason the overpriced Nexus' have become so popular...they're cherry-picked for consistency.

If QuietPC can get their importer to allow them to cherrypick, it may be very interesting. If not, I'll likely save my money for Vegas instead.

[DrCR]

Originally Posted by Rusty075

If not, I'll likely save my money for Vegas instead.

Why? Everying you do there cherry-picked for consistency?

[~el~jefe~]

well, I have to say that my directron pabst 120 is super smooth, very quiet, and at like 8-9 volts puts out a nice stream of air for when im killing stuff on a server. Better than a nexus....zzzz.. z....zz Oh i think i felt some air.... zzz....zzz....

first post !

[Blackeagle]

Voted not interested, I want higher performance fans.