Help on cloning

max007007 · 05-24-2002, 06:44 AM

Anyone knows what program and how to clone a fat32 hdd to a nfts hdd while preserving the ntfs format (ntfs allocation size customised to 16kb).

Old hdd: 60GB fat32 with WinXP
New Hdd in raid 0: 160GB ntfs (16KB allocation size)

bigben2k · 05-24-2002, 08:10 AM

max007007:

You're not telling us the whole picture here...

If all you're doing is copying data files, then just hookup your old drive to the other IDE channel, and start copying.

If you're trying to reproduce exactly the OS, program files, etc, you can forget about it (I'm sure someone will disagree). A system works better with a new install. (you needed to re-install everything anyways, remember?)

If you're actually trying to copy a FAT32 from one HD to the other, it won't work either, simply because your hard drives are different sizes. The only reason I could see you trying to do that, is for data recovery purposes (assuming you have a backup on the old HD) but since you're porting over to NTFS, I suspect that you've got a whole different purpose for doing that.

Tell us more, please!

jtroutma · 05-24-2002, 04:03 PM

Sounds like a perfect situation for Ghost.

Symantec has a product called Notron Ghost 2002 that will do direct HDD to HDD cloning even across different file systems. Ghost handles FAT, FAT32, NTFS and even NTFS 64k. It can automatically clone FAT volumes to FAT32 volumes and even create image files.

It allows you to copy particians, or "clone" a whole disk sector by sector. It will automatically format the destination drive to maximum size when cloning from a smaller source and handles boot records wonderfully.

What is even better is that it is great for data recovery situations. You can sector clone a damaged/failing disk to a new one and Ghost will attempt to recover the damaged sectors automatically and skip over the ones it cant and continue the clone process.

It runs under DOS and supports long file names with no problems.

Brad · 05-24-2002, 04:32 PM

hehe yep, this'd be a perfect situation for ghost. It doesn't need to be the 2002 version either, it's been around for some time

jtroutma · 05-24-2002, 07:22 PM

Ghost 2002 only becuase it is the latest version and it should have absolutely no problems with that size of a volume. Some of the older version had problems with larger volumes.

Joe · 05-24-2002, 08:12 PM

Hmmm I didnt think ghost could to a NTFS conversion live like that

05-24-2002, 06:44 AM	#1
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05-24-2002, 08:10 AM	#2
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	max007007: You're not telling us the whole picture here... If all you're doing is copying data files, then just hookup your old drive to the other IDE channel, and start copying. If you're trying to reproduce exactly the OS, program files, etc, you can forget about it (I'm sure someone will disagree). A system works better with a new install. (you needed to re-install everything anyways, remember?) If you're actually trying to copy a FAT32 from one HD to the other, it won't work either, simply because your hard drives are different sizes. The only reason I could see you trying to do that, is for data recovery purposes (assuming you have a backup on the old HD) but since you're porting over to NTFS, I suspect that you've got a whole different purpose for doing that. Tell us more, please! __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

05-24-2002, 04:03 PM	#3
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Sounds like a perfect situation for Ghost. Symantec has a product called Notron Ghost 2002 that will do direct HDD to HDD cloning even across different file systems. Ghost handles FAT, FAT32, NTFS and even NTFS 64k. It can automatically clone FAT volumes to FAT32 volumes and even create image files. It allows you to copy particians, or "clone" a whole disk sector by sector. It will automatically format the destination drive to maximum size when cloning from a smaller source and handles boot records wonderfully. What is even better is that it is great for data recovery situations. You can sector clone a damaged/failing disk to a new one and Ghost will attempt to recover the damaged sectors automatically and skip over the ones it cant and continue the clone process. It runs under DOS and supports long file names with no problems. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

05-24-2002, 04:32 PM	#4
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	hehe yep, this'd be a perfect situation for ghost. It doesn't need to be the 2002 version either, it's been around for some time __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

05-24-2002, 07:22 PM	#5
jtroutma Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 837	Ghost 2002 only becuase it is the latest version and it should have absolutely no problems with that size of a volume. Some of the older version had problems with larger volumes. __________________ Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.5Ghz (250FSB x 10) OCZ VX 1GB 4000 @ 250FSB (6-2-2-2 timmings) DFI LANParty nForce4 Ultra-D SCSI Raid 5 x (3) Cheetah 15K HDDs LSI Express 500 (128MB cache) OCZ PowerStream 520W PSU ATI X850XT PE (Stock) DTEK WhiteWater + DTEK Custom Radiator Eheim 1250

05-24-2002, 08:12 PM	#6
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Hmmm I didnt think ghost could to a NTFS conversion live like that __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

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