Monsterworks - RBX Ripoff

Techmasta · 09-16-2004, 04:00 PM

http://www.cstec.biz/en/Default.aspx?tabid=33

I think they could have ripped off the look of the RBX a little less than just changing the barbs.

I wonder if they use the same jet design as the RBX or if they even have a jet.

psychofunk · 09-16-2004, 04:10 PM

Looks cool, too bad they are in Taiwan and there products are so limited :shrug:

Banten · 09-16-2004, 05:11 PM

The "NAZ1 CPU Block"?! ...the hell?

Tempus · 09-16-2004, 06:33 PM

someone over there is playing too much CoD.

jaydee · 09-16-2004, 06:53 PM

Although it is a blatent RBX ripoff it does add some class. I like the self sealing barbs and the black textured tops. Wonder what kind of coating that is. Oh well. RBX got ripped off much like the way the RBX itselft came about.

Techmasta · 09-16-2004, 07:59 PM

I know what you mean about the RBX ripping off some one elses design but at least they made it look different.

AngryAlpaca · 09-16-2004, 08:15 PM

This one looks better than the RBX... I'd say there is a marked difference in appearance.

The RBX CLEARLY uses the same principles as the WW, those being fins and jet impingement. However, the RBX, (probably like the NAZ1 block will be to the RBX) was worse than the WW, so they didn't do anyone any favour there.

Is it cheap? Is it any good? Does it have the mounting difficulties?

Techmasta · 09-16-2004, 08:19 PM

I agree it looks better but it looks exactly like the RBX except for the barbs. The RBX doesn't look exactly like the WW even if it uses the same basic internal design.

BalefireX · 09-16-2004, 08:23 PM

The faux CF look is nice, but naming it the NAZ1 must go in the top 10 marketing blunders of all time. Some nice looking reservoirs there too.

jaydee · 09-16-2004, 08:36 PM

HeHe! I dug up some dirt. Notice the e-mail addy on this page: http://www.cstec.biz/en/Default.aspx?tabid=31
julia@---colorstone.com.tw

Now go to http://www.colorstone.com.tw/ and see what lurks there!

EDIT: I wonder if they are buying the RBX bases and adding their own tops being DD sells just the base from what I hear. The base looks identical to me.

Techmasta · 09-16-2004, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaydee116

EDIT: I wonder if they are buying the RBX bases and adding their own tops being DD sells just the base from what I hear. The base looks identical to me.

I thought they only sold the tops, not the bases?

http://www.dangerden.com/mall/Misc_H.../rbx_acces.asp

:shrug:

Cathar · 09-16-2004, 10:27 PM

'twas only a matter of time...

Baseplate is a different shape to the RBX. RBX has more accentuated bumps where the bolts screw in.

Joe · 09-16-2004, 11:53 PM

NAZ1 - Your "FINAL SOLUTION" to cooling issues!
NAZ1 - The ONLY Hitler approved watercooling solution for the supperior race!

needs more swastikas or iron crosses

hehehe

How foolish.

Joe · 09-16-2004, 11:54 PM

I await the NAZ1-SS The high power waterblock that will systematicly eliminate all points of cooling resistance in your machine.

jaydee · 09-17-2004, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathar

'twas only a matter of time...

Baseplate is a different shape to the RBX. RBX has more accentuated bumps where the bolts screw in.

You are right. In fact those are full curves in between the bolt holes for the top as to were the RBX flattens out in between the holes. Looks to me they are a reseller and decided to redesign it to their own specifications. Bad idea using an e-mail addy from your reseller page.

9mmCensor · 09-17-2004, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

I await the NAZ1-SS The high power waterblock that will systematicly eliminate all points of cooling resistance in your machine.

lol, and have IBM document it.

bellevegasj · 09-18-2004, 03:45 PM

oh crap that's too funny...

jaydee · 09-24-2004, 09:20 AM

How about this one? http://www.overclockers.com/articles1109/ Looks like it got some of my Lumpy Channel (http://www.procooling.com/reviews/ht...lock_revie.php) tech in it as it appears the holes were drilled and then an endmill ran through it.

threeputt · 09-24-2004, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

I await the NAZ1-SS The high power waterblock that will systematicly eliminate all points of cooling resistance in your machine.

Man, that's sig material! LOL

AngryAlpaca · 09-24-2004, 10:52 AM

http://www.overclockers.com/articles1109/ Hey look! Another one! (Only two barbs this time)

Techmasta · 09-25-2004, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaydee116

How about this one? http://www.overclockers.com/articles1109/ Looks like it got some of my Lumpy Channel (http://www.procooling.com/reviews/ht...lock_revie.php) tech in it as it appears the holes were drilled and then an endmill ran through it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngryAlpaca

http://www.overclockers.com/articles1109/ Hey look! Another one! (Only two barbs this time)

lol

AngryAlpaca · 09-25-2004, 02:22 PM

Yeah I saw that later. Since there is no deleting I decided to just leave it be.

Bio-Hazard · 09-26-2004, 01:20 AM

It's not a matter of who is ripping who off, it's a matter of who really owns the patent. The company that owns the patent can license it to who they wish and to however many people they wish. So no one is ripping anyone off. It's just like Swiftech and Danger Den selling the same parts under their own names because they licensed the patent from the manufacture. It's just a matter of big busness.

Marci · 12-14-2004, 06:34 AM

Firstly, sorry fer dredging up an old thread...

Colorstone / monsterworks / monstershop (all one and the same imo) seem to have a lot of stock of these products at the mo. They started stocking ThermoChill rads, and shortly afterwards a massproduced cheap taiwanese version appeared which I think are currently marketed in the UK and Europe as XSPC rads... and have now stopped buying the ThermoChills.

Their rads are likely to demolish the UK / European market for Thermochill due to the incredibly reduced costs of theirs being produced in Taiwan and ThermoChill being produced in the UK, altho no real testing appears to have been done on their rads to the calibre of that done on the Thermochill series to be able to assess them from a performance standpoint... However, they do look visually and also in terms of technical specs identical to the Innovatek dual radiators more than ThermoChill... there were briefly some identical ThermoChill clones up on their site which have been replaced by these innovatek clones.

EDIT: Monsterworks / Colorstone / Monstershop are just resellers from what I've just been informed... the manufacture behind all these products is www.xpcmods.idv.tw - cept it's a forum only, in Taiwanese, members only, with no real info on the company (unless you can read Taiwanese!!), so apols to Monsterworks etc if that came across as an accusation!

Marci · 12-14-2004, 07:47 AM

For instance...

ThermoChill HE120.2

(pre-removeable shroud pix)

XPCMods HE120.2 Clone

Innovatek InnovaRADI 2x120

XPCMods / XSPC InnovaRADI Clone

09-16-2004, 04:00 PM	#1
Techmasta Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Posts: 74	Monsterworks - RBX Ripoff http://www.cstec.biz/en/Default.aspx?tabid=33 I think they could have ripped off the look of the RBX a little less than just changing the barbs. I wonder if they use the same jet design as the RBX or if they even have a jet.

09-16-2004, 06:33 PM	#4
Tempus Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 456	someone over there is playing too much CoD. __________________ Thou art God.

09-16-2004, 08:15 PM	#7
AngryAlpaca Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 631	This one looks better than the RBX... I'd say there is a marked difference in appearance. The RBX CLEARLY uses the same principles as the WW, those being fins and jet impingement. However, the RBX, (probably like the NAZ1 block will be to the RBX) was worse than the WW, so they didn't do anyone any favour there. Is it cheap? Is it any good? Does it have the mounting difficulties? Last edited by AngryAlpaca; 09-16-2004 at 08:20 PM.

09-16-2004, 08:23 PM	#9
BalefireX Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Isle of Man Posts: 269	The faux CF look is nice, but naming it the NAZ1 must go in the top 10 marketing blunders of all time. Some nice looking reservoirs there too. __________________ If not, why not?

09-16-2004, 11:53 PM	#13
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	NAZ1 - Your "FINAL SOLUTION" to cooling issues! NAZ1 - The ONLY Hitler approved watercooling solution for the supperior race! needs more swastikas or iron crosses hehehe How foolish. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

09-16-2004, 04:10 PM	#2
psychofunk Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 365	Looks cool, too bad they are in Taiwan and there products are so limited :shrug:

09-16-2004, 05:11 PM	#3
Banten Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 10	The "NAZ1 CPU Block"?! ...the hell?

09-16-2004, 06:53 PM	#5
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Although it is a blatent RBX ripoff it does add some class. I like the self sealing barbs and the black textured tops. Wonder what kind of coating that is. Oh well. RBX got ripped off much like the way the RBX itselft came about.

09-16-2004, 07:59 PM	#6
Techmasta Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Posts: 74	I know what you mean about the RBX ripping off some one elses design but at least they made it look different.

09-16-2004, 08:19 PM	#8
Techmasta Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: USA Posts: 74	I agree it looks better but it looks exactly like the RBX except for the barbs. The RBX doesn't look exactly like the WW even if it uses the same basic internal design.

09-16-2004, 08:36 PM	#10
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	HeHe! I dug up some dirt. Notice the e-mail addy on this page: http://www.cstec.biz/en/Default.aspx?tabid=31 julia@---colorstone.com.tw Now go to http://www.colorstone.com.tw/ and see what lurks there! EDIT: I wonder if they are buying the RBX bases and adding their own tops being DD sells just the base from what I hear. The base looks identical to me.

09-16-2004, 10:27 PM	#12
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	'twas only a matter of time... Baseplate is a different shape to the RBX. RBX has more accentuated bumps where the bolts screw in.

09-16-2004, 11:54 PM	#14
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	I await the NAZ1-SS The high power waterblock that will systematicly eliminate all points of cooling resistance in your machine. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

09-18-2004, 03:45 PM	#17
bellevegasj Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: bellevegas, il, usa... center of the universe. Posts: 44	oh crap that's too funny...

09-24-2004, 09:20 AM	#18
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	How about this one? http://www.overclockers.com/articles1109/ Looks like it got some of my Lumpy Channel (http://www.procooling.com/reviews/ht...lock_revie.php) tech in it as it appears the holes were drilled and then an endmill ran through it.

09-24-2004, 10:52 AM	#20
AngryAlpaca Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 631	http://www.overclockers.com/articles1109/ Hey look! Another one! (Only two barbs this time)

09-25-2004, 02:22 PM	#22
AngryAlpaca Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 631	Yeah I saw that later. Since there is no deleting I decided to just leave it be.

09-26-2004, 01:20 AM	#23
Bio-Hazard Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Back Woods of MO Posts: 49	It's not a matter of who is ripping who off, it's a matter of who really owns the patent. The company that owns the patent can license it to who they wish and to however many people they wish. So no one is ripping anyone off. It's just like Swiftech and Danger Den selling the same parts under their own names because they licensed the patent from the manufacture. It's just a matter of big busness.

12-14-2004, 06:34 AM	#24
Marci Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 486	Firstly, sorry fer dredging up an old thread... Colorstone / monsterworks / monstershop (all one and the same imo) seem to have a lot of stock of these products at the mo. They started stocking ThermoChill rads, and shortly afterwards a massproduced cheap taiwanese version appeared which I think are currently marketed in the UK and Europe as XSPC rads... and have now stopped buying the ThermoChills. Their rads are likely to demolish the UK / European market for Thermochill due to the incredibly reduced costs of theirs being produced in Taiwan and ThermoChill being produced in the UK, altho no real testing appears to have been done on their rads to the calibre of that done on the Thermochill series to be able to assess them from a performance standpoint... However, they do look visually and also in terms of technical specs identical to the Innovatek dual radiators more than ThermoChill... there were briefly some identical ThermoChill clones up on their site which have been replaced by these innovatek clones. EDIT: Monsterworks / Colorstone / Monstershop are just resellers from what I've just been informed... the manufacture behind all these products is www.xpcmods.idv.tw - cept it's a forum only, in Taiwanese, members only, with no real info on the company (unless you can read Taiwanese!!), so apols to Monsterworks etc if that came across as an accusation! Last edited by Marci; 12-14-2004 at 07:47 AM.

12-14-2004, 07:47 AM	#25
Marci Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Wakefield, West Yorkshire, UK Posts: 486	For instance... ThermoChill HE120.2 (pre-removeable shroud pix) XPCMods HE120.2 Clone Innovatek InnovaRADI 2x120 XPCMods / XSPC InnovaRADI Clone

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