Enough Cooling? start me up help

Trenchdog73 · 12-19-2006, 01:27 PM

Well after helping or basically installing a thermal take kit for my uncle I decided to go hop into the water. This is my first dive into water cooling and I just wanted to know if these rads and pump would provide enough cooling. First my setup is a e6600 with 2x1900 in crossfire. Im probly just going to run a cpu loop at first so I can afford not to skimp on components and then pick up my gpu blocks in a couple weeks. I havent decided on if I should cool the nb yet. I also havent decided between these two rads http://www.svc.com/rad-3430.html, http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermochill-...3-pr-3264.html, But Im thinking this pump http://www.svc.com/mcp655.html. I also Would like to mount my rad externally as my crossfire setup doesnt really leave much extra room in my thermaltake armor case... some but I dont think enough, does this usually lead to any problems? How much diff does the wall thickness of tubing make? Im sorry if im reasking any question, but I have been reading and reading and reading now my head hurts lol. Thanks for any help.
td
P.S. I do oc

ricecrispi · 12-21-2006, 07:49 PM

Don't get the GTX rad. Thermochill will beat it unless you want to use fans with high CFM like panaflo H. An external rad presents no real disadvantages. You can mount ontop or side case or use the swiftech rad mount.
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-Rad...k-pr-3337.html

Don't cool the NB, waste of time, money and makes the loop complicated.

Tubing thickness isn't extremely important. Thicker tubing is harder to work with
but most of the tubing available worth buying is masterkleer/clearflex, tygon, or primochill tubing.

The pump isn't bad either. Also look at
http://www.jab-tech.com/Laing-DDC-Al...4-pr-3515.html
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP...p-pr-3510.html
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP...p-pr-2611.html

http://www.petrastechshop.com/watercooling.html is another shop to look for stuff

mx · 12-22-2006, 05:52 AM

I havent decided on if I should cool the nb yet.

I don't like watercooled NBs since it won't help OC much. Actually it'll probably yield worse OC because of more restriction and more heat in the loop. I'd only watercool my NB if I had two loops. Untill then a good heatsink like Thermalright HR-05 with decent airflow will do just fine.

I also havent decided between these two rads http://www.svc.com/rad-3430.html, http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermochill-...3-pr-3264.html,

I also vote for ThermoChill (unless you wanna use extreme fans).
In Radical_53s test at the bottom of the first post in this thread you can see how most radiators perform compared to each other with silent fans. GTX isn't in the test but considering how far behind ThermoChill the GT performs I don't think GTX will beat ThermoChill.

But Im thinking this pump http://www.svc.com/mcp655.html.

Laings D5 (MCP655) is a good pump but DDC-2 performs even better.
Read Petras pump test if you wanna know how much better it performs.

I also Would like to mount my rad externally as my crossfire setup doesnt really leave much extra room in my thermaltake armor case... some but I dont think enough, does this usually lead to any problems?

Mounting is easier externally and performance should be the same.

How much diff does the wall thickness of tubing make?

Thicker walls means less kinking but bigger tubing is harder to work with.

ricecrispi · 12-22-2006, 01:25 PM

A better article on rads by cooling-masters.de http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools
I would guess the PA would simlarly to the cooling-works rad. I wouldn't want panaflos M mounted externally on my rad. One of them running full 12 V is bad enough imagine 3 of them.

12-19-2006, 01:27 PM	#1
Trenchdog73 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 1	Enough Cooling? start me up help Well after helping or basically installing a thermal take kit for my uncle I decided to go hop into the water. This is my first dive into water cooling and I just wanted to know if these rads and pump would provide enough cooling. First my setup is a e6600 with 2x1900 in crossfire. Im probly just going to run a cpu loop at first so I can afford not to skimp on components and then pick up my gpu blocks in a couple weeks. I havent decided on if I should cool the nb yet. I also havent decided between these two rads http://www.svc.com/rad-3430.html, http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermochill-...3-pr-3264.html, But Im thinking this pump http://www.svc.com/mcp655.html. I also Would like to mount my rad externally as my crossfire setup doesnt really leave much extra room in my thermaltake armor case... some but I dont think enough, does this usually lead to any problems? How much diff does the wall thickness of tubing make? Im sorry if im reasking any question, but I have been reading and reading and reading now my head hurts lol. Thanks for any help. td P.S. I do oc

12-21-2006, 07:49 PM	#2
ricecrispi Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: california Posts: 429	Re: Enough Cooling? start me up help Don't get the GTX rad. Thermochill will beat it unless you want to use fans with high CFM like panaflo H. An external rad presents no real disadvantages. You can mount ontop or side case or use the swiftech rad mount. http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-Rad...k-pr-3337.html Don't cool the NB, waste of time, money and makes the loop complicated. Tubing thickness isn't extremely important. Thicker tubing is harder to work with but most of the tubing available worth buying is masterkleer/clearflex, tygon, or primochill tubing. The pump isn't bad either. Also look at http://www.jab-tech.com/Laing-DDC-Al...4-pr-3515.html http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP...p-pr-3510.html http://www.jab-tech.com/Swiftech-MCP...p-pr-2611.html http://www.petrastechshop.com/watercooling.html is another shop to look for stuff

12-22-2006, 05:52 AM	#3
mx Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 73	Re: Enough Cooling? start me up help I havent decided on if I should cool the nb yet. I don't like watercooled NBs since it won't help OC much. Actually it'll probably yield worse OC because of more restriction and more heat in the loop. I'd only watercool my NB if I had two loops. Untill then a good heatsink like Thermalright HR-05 with decent airflow will do just fine. I also havent decided between these two rads http://www.svc.com/rad-3430.html, http://www.jab-tech.com/Thermochill-...3-pr-3264.html, I also vote for ThermoChill (unless you wanna use extreme fans). In Radical_53s test at the bottom of the first post in this thread you can see how most radiators perform compared to each other with silent fans. GTX isn't in the test but considering how far behind ThermoChill the GT performs I don't think GTX will beat ThermoChill. But Im thinking this pump http://www.svc.com/mcp655.html. Laings D5 (MCP655) is a good pump but DDC-2 performs even better. Read Petras pump test if you wanna know how much better it performs. I also Would like to mount my rad externally as my crossfire setup doesnt really leave much extra room in my thermaltake armor case... some but I dont think enough, does this usually lead to any problems? Mounting is easier externally and performance should be the same. How much diff does the wall thickness of tubing make? Thicker walls means less kinking but bigger tubing is harder to work with.

12-22-2006, 01:25 PM	#4
ricecrispi Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: california Posts: 429	Re: Enough Cooling? start me up help A better article on rads by cooling-masters.de http://translate.google.com/translat...language_tools I would guess the PA would simlarly to the cooling-works rad. I wouldn't want panaflos M mounted externally on my rad. One of them running full 12 V is bad enough imagine 3 of them.

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