Watercooled X-Box

[Cyco-Dude]

[H]ard|OCP has the article posted here for your viewing pleasure.

[sunblade]

I saw that. It's crazyness, that's what it is

[Joe]

Wow talk about wanting the 1 min I spent looking at that train wreck back!!!

[Brad]

yey, they managed to do it in a huge external container, and didn't reduce the noise too much cause the psu fan is the loudest anyway.

if someone does it all internally and uses just one quiet 120mm fan, I'll think it worthwhile

[Cyco-Dude]

theres no way to stuff a WC setup in the X-Box case...maybe another encloser the size of the X-box case (use a black ice and 120x25mm fan or something)...

heh, i wonder if they can OC it...

[Brad]

you can't overclock it, the quest is silence only, and I'm sure you can fit it all in there

[mkosem]

hmm, prolly woulda been easier to just put a papbst fan in there

--Matt

[decodeddiesel]

Originally posted by mkosem
hmm, prolly woulda been easier to just put a papbst fan in there

--Matt

Not to mention more practicle, and it will probably do a better job or making it quiet regardless.

This article is a joke thats all I can say about it, it's almost as bad as the "Unlock an Intel" article on Duckman's Wild Page. Like Brad said, it's not like he even made it fanless for christs sake, it's still just as loud as it was, there for he accomplished nothing but wasting his time. The X-Box can not be overclocked, doesn't suffer from heat issues (it's a friggin Celeron in there) and it's not like he was having stability problems. What a waste...but hey I guess it's [H]

[trilobyte]

I'll post what I posted at VyW

"Watercooling an xbox is pretty stupid IMHO. Why? To begin with, the xbox is already silent. You also can't overclock it (you won't see me watercooling a celeron PC locked at default speed; which is essentially what you are doing to the xbox). You just waste money on what could have been spent on real PC cooling. Prolong the life of an xbox? Why would you want to do that when a console's lifespan is 5 years anyway? Watercooling is cool, when it's useful IMO. "

[decodeddiesel]

Agreed trilo. He might as well have gotten a Celeron based mATX Dell and watercooled it, same effect, same waste of time.

[trilobyte]

yup, but it's on hardocp so it MUST be cool! heh.

[scythe]

lol , i wonder how much email he got mocking him.

[Twitchie]

I think they did it because they know it would apeal to their audience-the new generation of mainstream overclockers who overclock just to say they are an overclocker

Only this kind of mentality would appreciate watercooling an X-Box just to be able to say 'I own a watercooled X-Box'

Betcha the hottest thing in the forum there next will be

'X-Box watercooling noob needs help' or

'All X-Box watercooling Gods please read this...'

'What's the best waterblock, rad, pump to use with my X-Box'

He did manage to risk his warranty though..careful or not, one day they'll make a mistake and then they'll have an X-Box keychain to give away too.

[decodeddiesel]

Originally posted by Twitchie
I think they did it because they know it would apeal to their audience-the new generation of mainstream overclockers who overclock just to say they are an overclocker

Only this kind of mentality would appreciate watercooling an X-Box just to be able to say 'I own a watercooled X-Box'

Betcha the hottest thing in the forum there next will be

'X-Box watercooling noob needs help' or

'All X-Box watercooling Gods please read this...'

'What's the best waterblock, rad, pump to use with my X-Box'

He did manage to risk his warranty though..careful or not, one day they'll make a mistake and then they'll have an X-Box keychain to give away too.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

[Brad]

we have overclocked just about everything there is to overclock... and, in our quests for speed, there isn't a piece of hardware out there that we haven't personally burned up along the way.

Thats because they are ****ing idiots, like using an athlon with 8 feet they make it sound as if the mod the hell out of every bit of hardware they see, to make it overclock by 50%, infact, I can't remember the last time I saw anything out of hardcops that has had 3rd party wires soldered all over it

[derraa]

Watercool an Xbox.... I will be interested when there is some reason too. They cant even o/c it right? and if they could, it would be pointless because the software is limited

[Twitchie]

Originally posted by Brad


... I can't remember the last time I saw anything out of hardcops that has had 3rd party wires soldered all over it

Exactly! They are afraid of volt mods, or anything which requires real modification.

They bitch about jumpers, and say that the XP is so hard to unlock now(boohoo...boohoo)

I remember when the NVidia bios mod by Ray Adams came out, I was thinking 'this is fantastic', and they were warning people away from using it because they considered it 'risky'.

I call their brand of overclocking 'keystroke-overclocking'...go into the bios and 'change-some-settings'...sorry, but that's how I change the ****ing clock or boot order on a computer...NOT what I consider genuine overclocking...

I will give them credit for bringing overclocking to the masses, but that's both a blessing and a curse right? I still like their site for the news too (I don't really hate them, only their forums)

[Brad]

yeah, they are mainstream now, falling into the same category as anand and thg

[mx-6*]

At least they do some good reviews at Anand. And sometimes even at THG.

[decodeddiesel]

Originally posted by mx-6*
At least they do some good reviews at Anand. And sometimes even at THG.

:shrug: eeee....no....THG is just horrid. Anand can be OK, but *gaag* Toms really stinks.

[Aristotle]

I'm a newbie, so maybe I am out of line but... is it possible that the purpose of watercooling the item was not intended for overclocking or making the box run silent? Is it possible they wanted to watercool it just to cool it better?

The problem may have been fixed now (I'm not sure as I don't own any consoles and don't keep up on the news regarding them) but *many* of the Xbox consoles were heating up and dieing. I know four people personally who killed their Xbox within a month and had to have them replaced. They were all told the same thing. The Xbox runs too hot, and if you play it for too long you will fry it. (The one system was run continuous for 10 hours, after shutting it off it would not power on again).

If *that* were the reason, and watercooling *can* cool better than air, then it seems perfectly reasonable to me.

[thebigNil]

Well he could have just stuck a decent heat sink on it with a quiet fan and he could have 1. had it quieter then his watercooling now. 2. could have it more easly portable/storeable. becides if it died because of overheating the warranty should have covered it still.

I understand overclocking if you get something good out of it but his project has way too many drawbacks to make it worth while.

[Cyco-Dude]

quote from Steve:
"Well, I posted my top secret little Watercooled Xbox project yesterday on HardOCP...a lot of fun, more of a "just to see if we could do it" kinda project, with future mods coming like adding memory and overclocking."

so who knows, he might just OC the hell outta it...

[Brad]

hmm yeah really, he might, but he won't

and of course it could be done, just epoxy a waterblock onto the core and connect it to any normal watercooling system. As I've said before, lets see him fit it in an Xbox, make it quieter and cool better

[Twitchie]

How the hell do you expect them to OC it when there is no FSB or multiplier settings and no bios for them to 'modify' (whoooo....keystroke overlockers...whooooooo)

Do you really expect them to OC it when they would have to do some real modifications to get the adjustments necessary...maybe even some soldering !!! These guys fry shit without even touching a soldering iron...then blame the psu, or the cat, or the stupid 'space-bar power on' -> the time they decide to change a heatsink w/o unplugging the system

I can appreciate that Steve watercools, but he is truly tame in that respect. His livelyhood comes from the site, so he should appear to be cutting edge...he claims to be the first to have watercooled ram sinks on a video card, but honestly, I don't consider vinyl tubing running though air sinks to be 'watercooled'

There are things that I can appreciate about Kyle and Steve, but their ability to overclock is non-existent...buying a chip and farting around with fsb and multiplier settings does not have any corellation with one's ability to overclock...

You know why they did it??? For the hype, and in their own words, to be the 'world's first'...there's nothing 'Hard' about the way they overclock anything...

Kyle was early to adopt the vapochill...great, but can he build one??? Steve loves to watercool, but can he even make his own cross drilled block??? They just throw money at the problem and little thought and effort...that's is what I don't like...