What rads cool water to 0*c ?

Weedkiller420 · 02-27-2002, 10:30 AM

what rad can cool the water to 0 degrees celceius? i know big old levi can and the innovatrek dul rad can but what about black ice or dd supacube? anybpody know of others

decodeddiesel · 02-27-2002, 10:36 AM

No radiator can cool coolant to 0C unless the enviroment it is in is 0C, cooling below ambient is physically impossible. Radiators cool the water to as close to ambient as possible, this is their design, they radiate heat. In order to go below ambient you need TECs, Phase Change, LN2, etc. All of these methods employ a substance or device that is capable of producing temps below ambient.

Jason-Pro · 02-27-2002, 12:32 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:shrug:

youve been smoking to much weed

DigitalChaos · 02-27-2002, 12:49 PM

if a glass of water was sitting in a 20C room... would it ever get below 20C let alont 0C?
NO
then neither will a radiator.

DigitalChaos · 02-27-2002, 01:04 PM

i have never heard of this levi rad
link me please

passive cooling below ambient would drastically change the water cooling scene =)

decodeddiesel · 02-27-2002, 01:22 PM

http://www.liquidcool.org

it's a caprice heatercore modded and painted up nice. It will fit 2x 120mm fans.

Weedkiller420 · 02-27-2002, 01:56 PM

i was reading toms site he said it was pretty close to 0* with duel rad he had the other one which looked like a supacube wasent able to reach that.

whats the closes rad to get to 0?

decodeddiesel · 02-27-2002, 02:01 PM

Tom is a waste of life, and a moron, don't place any creedance in anything you read on his site.

DigitalChaos · 02-27-2002, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Weedkiller420
i was reading toms site he said it was pretty close to 0* with duel rad he had the other one which looked like a supacube wasent able to reach that.

whats the closes rad to get to 0?

give me a link

asd · 02-27-2002, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigitalChaos
if a glass of water was sitting in a 20C room... would it ever get below 20C let alont 0C?
NO
then neither will a radiator.

Actually it would get a little bit below 20c, unless it's in vacuum..

ondaedg · 02-27-2002, 02:20 PM

A radiator, in theory, can only cool a fluid to a temperature of the ambient air that is being passed through it. Unless the air that is being forced through the radiator is at or below 0 C, then it is not possible. If it is cold out (22 F here), and you place your radiator outside, then it would be possible to cool the fluid to extremely low temperatures.

DigitalChaos · 02-27-2002, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by asd

Actually it would get a little bit below 20c, unless it's in vacuum..

ok maybe ONLY due to evaporation.... then i revise that the glass of water is a BOTTLE of water with the cap on

=)

decodeddiesel · 02-27-2002, 02:43 PM

actually it's sublimation, not evaporation

Brad · 02-27-2002, 02:52 PM

there is no way that any radiator will cool water to below ambient. simple as that.

as for thg stuff, tom is a ****ing idiot, he is just a sellout giving blow job reviews to whoever pays him the most

asd · 02-27-2002, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
there is no way that any radiator will cool water to below ambient. simple as that.

as for thg stuff, tom is a ****ing idiot, he is just a sellout giving blow job reviews to whoever pays him the most

Tom - the lets-pour-some-ink-into-the-water-and-look-like-a-moron...

Brad · 02-27-2002, 03:03 PM

tom, lets say that he can't overclock the intel cpu because it will take pci and agp busses out of spec. then he says on the amd it is possible to change the multiplier to overclock, and keep pci and agp in spec. Then he leaves the multiplier at stock on the athlon and increases the fsb on it, completely ignoring what he just said about the p4

it is obvious amd paid him more than intel for that review

ksw · 02-27-2002, 03:04 PM

the guy hung the rad outside his window when it was below zero outisde... thats only reason.

Weedkiller420 · 02-27-2002, 03:06 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1...titans-02.html

ksw · 02-27-2002, 03:09 PM

jääää all hate THG!

asd · 02-27-2002, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ksw
jääää all hate THG!

[PGP ver. Supersecret] tror inte att dom fattar det där med ä =) [/PGP ver. Supersecret]]

ksw · 02-27-2002, 03:13 PM

nä d förståss....... jaja... #swoc @ irc.quakenet.org kom dit

Brad · 02-27-2002, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Depending on the external temperature, the enormous heat exchanger can cool the water to almost 0 degrees Celsius

if you subjected it to -40C, I'm sure I could get less than 0C.....

any radiator can get water temps below 0C if you use tom's method

schoolie · 02-27-2002, 03:24 PM

If it could cool down to 0K, I'd be impressed

ksw · 02-27-2002, 03:27 PM

submerge it into N<sub>2</sub> [L] would get it down quite much. but ZERO KELVIN would be almost impossible.

asd · 02-27-2002, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by schoolie
If it could cool down to 0K, I'd be impressed

Hey, ýou wouldn't be the only one. Even more impressing would be if Tom succeeded in cooling below 0k..

02-27-2002, 10:30 AM	#1
Weedkiller420 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20	*What rads cool water to 0c ?** what rad can cool the water to 0 degrees celceius? i know big old levi can and the innovatrek dul rad can but what about black ice or dd supacube? anybpody know of others

02-27-2002, 10:36 AM	#2
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	No radiator can cool coolant to 0C unless the enviroment it is in is 0C, cooling below ambient is physically impossible. Radiators cool the water to as close to ambient as possible, this is their design, they radiate heat. In order to go below ambient you need TECs, Phase Change, LN2, etc. All of these methods employ a substance or device that is capable of producing temps below ambient. __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

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decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	http://www.liquidcool.org it's a caprice heatercore modded and painted up nice. It will fit 2x 120mm fans. __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

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decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	Tom is a waste of life, and a moron, don't place any creedance in anything you read on his site. __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

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ondaedg Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 130	A radiator, in theory, can only cool a fluid to a temperature of the ambient air that is being passed through it. Unless the air that is being forced through the radiator is at or below 0 C, then it is not possible. If it is cold out (22 F here), and you place your radiator outside, then it would be possible to cool the fluid to extremely low temperatures. __________________ ondaedg@procooling.com

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DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	i have never heard of this levi rad link me please passive cooling below ambient would drastically change the water cooling scene =)

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Weedkiller420 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20	i was reading toms site he said it was pretty close to 0* with duel rad he had the other one which looked like a supacube wasent able to reach that. whats the closes rad to get to 0?

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Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	there is no way that any radiator will cool water to below ambient. simple as that. as for thg stuff, tom is a ****ing idiot, he is just a sellout giving blow job reviews to whoever pays him the most __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

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Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	tom, lets say that he can't overclock the intel cpu because it will take pci and agp busses out of spec. then he says on the amd it is possible to change the multiplier to overclock, and keep pci and agp in spec. Then he leaves the multiplier at stock on the athlon and increases the fsb on it, completely ignoring what he just said about the p4 it is obvious amd paid him more than intel for that review __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

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ksw Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SWEDEN(cold...) Posts: 195	the guy hung the rad outside his window when it was below zero outisde... thats only reason. __________________ www.webraced.com <- addicted as hell /me is!

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schoolie Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 120	If it could cool down to 0K, I'd be impressed

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ksw Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: SWEDEN(cold...) Posts: 195	submerge it into N<sub>2</sub> [L] would get it down quite much. but ZERO KELVIN would be almost impossible. __________________ www.webraced.com <- addicted as hell /me is!

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