Is 6"x6" heatercore enough for OCed 2100+?

OTMOPO3OK · 05-09-2002, 04:58 PM

Guys i'm making midtower case for LAN parties (antec 1030) and i saw some ppl placing regular 6x6x2in heatercore in front of their case,(you know right behind the bezel in Mid tower)
I wonder is it enough to cool overclocked AMD2100+ or future Thorobred since i hope to use this case for some time.
Or should i better get regular radiator ( the zig zag one, with one tube running back and forth) and place it in front too.

I usually place radiators on top but 1030 doesn't have enough room on top, the PS is too close.

So any suggestion are appreciated

UpAllNight · 05-09-2002, 05:07 PM

i have the setup your reffering to and i pretty sure it would im hitting a good 1820 mhz at 2.0 v(my temps are in my sig)and im pretty sure it could handle alot more heat load...when i up my voltage by .1 volt it wont raise my cpu tems but 1c

OTMOPO3OK · 05-09-2002, 05:14 PM

Ohh cool.now i'm sure i'll go for it.
AND one more thing does your pump affect monitor(another words is it magneticly shielded?) cos my comp is close to my monitor?
THX ALOT

Cyco-Dude · 05-09-2002, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by OTMOPO3OK Guys i'm making midtower case for LAN parties (antec 1030) and i saw some ppl placing regular 6x6x2in heatercore in front of their case,(you know right behind the bezel in Mid tower)
I wonder is it enough to cool overclocked AMD2100+ or future Thorobred since i hope to use this case for some time.
Or should i better get regular radiator ( the zig zag one, with one tube running back and forth) and place it in front too.

man, a typical 6" x 6" heater core (or Black Ice Extreme) will run circles around those serpentine radiators (the ones with 1 tube running back and forth). those radiators also butcher your flow rate as well. heater cores use multiple parrallel tubes so they are much more efficient, as have very little flow restriction.

UpAllNight · 05-09-2002, 10:22 PM

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AND one more thing does your pump affect monitor(another words is it magneticly shielded?) cos my comp is close to my monitor?

i have no problems at all with my monitor

OTMOPO3OK · 05-09-2002, 11:56 PM

Thanks Alot UpALLNight...i'll get 1250 then...

pompoen · 05-10-2002, 08:36 AM

think about it, you allready have the antec case for magneticly shielding the pump for the monitor

orev · 05-10-2002, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by pompoen
think about it, you allready have the antec case for magneticly shielding the pump for the monitor

Heh, but that's not going to shield it from all the stuff in your case including the video card.

pompoen · 05-10-2002, 11:42 AM

thats obviously true

does magnetic radiation harm pc-components?

maybe a stupid question ... be gentil

orev · 05-10-2002, 11:57 AM

Well, it certainly isn't good for them. Definately not for magnetic media drives.

I wouldn't be surprised if some instability problems were related to magnetic fields affecting the components.

UnaClocker · 05-10-2002, 01:14 PM

UpAllNight: That is one sweet looking radiator you have there, I can truthfully say, that is the cleanest looking heater core in a case I have ever seen. Good job!

As for the pump EM field, I ran my Magdrive model 2 (250gph) which is completely unshielded, 1" away from my hard drive for about 6 months, with absolutely no problems. I even ran 150FSB (37.5mhz PCI) and still had no problems. It was also like an inch from the motherboard at the same time..

UpAllNight · 05-10-2002, 01:32 PM

Thanx UnaClocker i sure did put a few hours in it

Cyco-Dude · 05-10-2002, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by UnaClocker
UpAllNight: That is one sweet looking radiator you have there, I can truthfully say, that is the cleanest looking heater core in a case I have ever seen. Good job!

just you wait...hehe

UpAllNight · 05-10-2002, 04:22 PM

waiting:shrug:

pompoen · 05-10-2002, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by orev
Well, it certainly isn't good for them. Definately not for magnetic media drives.

HD are magneticly shielded so they wont have any probs with it

Pinkster · 05-12-2002, 05:41 AM

a 6x6x2 heatercore is a pretty good for pc watercooling... the only thing that will really beat it is either a bigger heatercore.. or a heatercore that has a higher fpi (fins per inch), or just having 2 heatercores in parallel

. either way you might get 1 or 2 degrees difference at best that just using a single 6x6x2 with an xp at around 2 volts... so a 6x6x2 will do fine as long as you use a shroud with a 120mm fan (unless you are getting a 172mm rotron fan

) and have the fan sucking air from the rad...

Nordic · 05-13-2002, 05:46 PM

A 6x6x2 heater core handles extreme loads if you need it to. My small 100x150x20 mm "low pressure drop" radiator that I got from DangerDen can handle 100W, without temperatures getting out of hand - with only a 35 cfm (92 mm) fan. I'm sure if I put a 60+ cfm fan on it (120 mm) I could probably get away with 100+ W but that is kind of besides the point, I'm watercooling for the noiseless operation.

UnaClocker · 05-13-2002, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Nordic
A 6x6x2 heater core handles extreme loads if you need it to. My small 100x150x20 mm "low pressure drop" radiator that I got from DangerDen can handle 100W, without temperatures getting out of hand - with only a 35 cfm (92 mm) fan. I'm sure if I put a 60+ cfm fan on it (120 mm) I could probably get away with 100+ W but that is kind of besides the point, I'm watercooling for the noiseless operation.

I have a 60cfm 120mm fan, it is noiseless.

Nordic · 05-13-2002, 07:54 PM

Well that is a matter of your own definition of noiseless

The quietest 120 mm fan I have is a Papst 55 cfm model, I still prefer running it on 7 Volts to keep the noise level down, and it's not the fan noise - it's the rush of air that bothers me. I guess my radiator is making most of the noise through it's aero-dynamics.. sigh.

DigitalChaos · 05-15-2002, 10:49 AM

i ran my 2100+ at 2.2v and it handled the heatload just fine... sure the temps were a bit high... but that wasnt due to the heatercore...

Brad · 05-16-2002, 02:05 AM

a 6x6x2 heatercore would probably to 2x 2ghz athlons with no real problem, noone out there seems to be using them to their full potential

Lord Twilight · 05-18-2002, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by Brad
a 6x6x2 heatercore would probably to 2x 2ghz athlons with no real problem, noone out there seems to be using them to their full potential

Hopefully it will... I'm going to be building a dual AMD (2x MP 1800's) and am so far planning on getting a Black Ice Xtreme to cool both CPU's...

05-09-2002, 04:58 PM	#1
OTMOPO3OK Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 45	Is 6"x6" heatercore enough for OCed 2100+? Guys i'm making midtower case for LAN parties (antec 1030) and i saw some ppl placing regular 6x6x2in heatercore in front of their case,(you know right behind the bezel in Mid tower) I wonder is it enough to cool overclocked AMD2100+ or future Thorobred since i hope to use this case for some time. Or should i better get regular radiator ( the zig zag one, with one tube running back and forth) and place it in front too. I usually place radiators on top but 1030 doesn't have enough room on top, the PS is too close. So any suggestion are appreciated __________________ Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue...

05-09-2002, 05:07 PM	#2
UpAllNight Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HILLBILLY LAND Posts: 159	i have the setup your reffering to and i pretty sure it would im hitting a good 1820 mhz at 2.0 v(my temps are in my sig)and im pretty sure it could handle alot more heat load...when i up my voltage by .1 volt it wont raise my cpu tems but 1c __________________ XP1800 @172x10.5 Maze 3..Ehiem 1250..Chevette Rad 1 120mm panaflo @7v 1" shroud All fits nicely inside my case ambient(74 F) 2.0v Core(33.5) Loaded idle(31.5c) Enermax 431 watt Antec 1030B Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 241/548 Sony CDRW Creative 52x CD Soundblaster Live

05-09-2002, 05:14 PM	#3
OTMOPO3OK Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 45	Ohh cool.now i'm sure i'll go for it. AND one more thing does your pump affect monitor(another words is it magneticly shielded?) cos my comp is close to my monitor? THX ALOT __________________ Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue...

05-09-2002, 11:56 PM	#6
OTMOPO3OK Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 45	Thanks Alot UpALLNight...i'll get 1250 then... __________________ Keyboard not found. Press F1 to continue...

05-10-2002, 01:14 PM	#11
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	UpAllNight: That is one sweet looking radiator you have there, I can truthfully say, that is the cleanest looking heater core in a case I have ever seen. Good job! As for the pump EM field, I ran my Magdrive model 2 (250gph) which is completely unshielded, 1" away from my hard drive for about 6 months, with absolutely no problems. I even ran 150FSB (37.5mhz PCI) and still had no problems. It was also like an inch from the motherboard at the same time.. __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

05-10-2002, 08:36 AM	#7
pompoen Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: belgium Posts: 41	think about it, you allready have the antec case for magneticly shielding the pump for the monitor

05-10-2002, 11:42 AM	#9
pompoen Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: belgium Posts: 41	thats obviously true does magnetic radiation harm pc-components? maybe a stupid question ... be gentil

05-10-2002, 11:57 AM	#10
orev Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 35	Well, it certainly isn't good for them. Definately not for magnetic media drives. I wouldn't be surprised if some instability problems were related to magnetic fields affecting the components.

05-10-2002, 01:32 PM	#12
UpAllNight Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HILLBILLY LAND Posts: 159	Thanx UnaClocker i sure did put a few hours in it __________________ XP1800 @172x10.5 Maze 3..Ehiem 1250..Chevette Rad 1 120mm panaflo @7v 1" shroud All fits nicely inside my case ambient(74 F) 2.0v Core(33.5) Loaded idle(31.5c) Enermax 431 watt Antec 1030B Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 241/548 Sony CDRW Creative 52x CD Soundblaster Live

05-10-2002, 04:22 PM	#14
UpAllNight Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HILLBILLY LAND Posts: 159	waiting:shrug: __________________ XP1800 @172x10.5 Maze 3..Ehiem 1250..Chevette Rad 1 120mm panaflo @7v 1" shroud All fits nicely inside my case ambient(74 F) 2.0v Core(33.5) Loaded idle(31.5c) Enermax 431 watt Antec 1030B Gainward Geforce 3 TI200 241/548 Sony CDRW Creative 52x CD Soundblaster Live

05-12-2002, 05:41 AM	#16
Pinkster Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: adelaide, australia Posts: 61	a 6x6x2 heatercore is a pretty good for pc watercooling... the only thing that will really beat it is either a bigger heatercore.. or a heatercore that has a higher fpi (fins per inch), or just having 2 heatercores in parallel . either way you might get 1 or 2 degrees difference at best that just using a single 6x6x2 with an xp at around 2 volts... so a 6x6x2 will do fine as long as you use a shroud with a 120mm fan (unless you are getting a 172mm rotron fan ) and have the fan sucking air from the rad... __________________ whats a sig?

05-13-2002, 05:46 PM	#17
Nordic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 98	A 6x6x2 heater core handles extreme loads if you need it to. My small 100x150x20 mm "low pressure drop" radiator that I got from DangerDen can handle 100W, without temperatures getting out of hand - with only a 35 cfm (92 mm) fan. I'm sure if I put a 60+ cfm fan on it (120 mm) I could probably get away with 100+ W but that is kind of besides the point, I'm watercooling for the noiseless operation. __________________ Pump:Eheim 1048, Radiator:LPD radiator 100x150x20mm, CPU block:DD Maze-2, GPU block: DD GPU block, Chipset block:Zalman NB32 AMD XP 1500+, EpoX 8K7A, PoV GF3Ti200 Pic of my YY-cube

05-13-2002, 07:54 PM	#19
Nordic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 98	Well that is a matter of your own definition of noiseless The quietest 120 mm fan I have is a Papst 55 cfm model, I still prefer running it on 7 Volts to keep the noise level down, and it's not the fan noise - it's the rush of air that bothers me. I guess my radiator is making most of the noise through it's aero-dynamics.. sigh. __________________ Pump:Eheim 1048, Radiator:LPD radiator 100x150x20mm, CPU block:DD Maze-2, GPU block: DD GPU block, Chipset block:Zalman NB32 AMD XP 1500+, EpoX 8K7A, PoV GF3Ti200 Pic of my YY-cube

05-15-2002, 10:49 AM	#20
DigitalChaos Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Waukesha, Wi Posts: 698	i ran my 2100+ at 2.2v and it handled the heatload just fine... sure the temps were a bit high... but that wasnt due to the heatercore...

05-16-2002, 02:05 AM	#21
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	a 6x6x2 heatercore would probably to 2x 2ghz athlons with no real problem, noone out there seems to be using them to their full potential __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

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