1st h2o mods

nemaste · 07-01-2002, 11:42 PM

P4T-E
1.6a
Xstacy Everything
Ehiem 1250
Antec 1200
BIX
Maze 3-1 (detuned to "3 mode")
DDen chipset & video blocks (plain video block)

i get more stability mainly (averaging 8F over ambient water, CPU, & MB temps with 12F over ambient on the video). the Digidoc probe show much cooler temps (88F@load from 92@load), but the Asus & MBM software show a slightly hotter CPU (56C@load from 53C@load). i'm inclined to believe the excessive air cooling i had before was simply cooling underneath the socket moreso than the core, since i do have more stability in 3DMark & SiSoft now.

Gnozo · 07-02-2002, 01:48 PM

Damn...that looks really nice. Quite messy although?

Is that BIX heavy enough to take care of the heat?

mkosem · 07-02-2002, 02:21 PM

ya! the BIX can way more than handle that load. What is your OC like?

--Matt

FRAGN'STIEN · 07-04-2002, 12:17 AM

Hey nemaste I've looked at those pics 100 times and I just noticed somthing: the 80mm with the clear duct for cooling the pump, good idea, how well does it work? does it seem to lower your water temps at all?

airspirit · 07-04-2002, 01:02 PM

Funny, I'm going to be assembling close to the same thing this weekend, except I'll be using a black edge block from becooling for the CPU and a VIA 1300 instead of the Eheim (why does that give me a bad hoodoo-type feeling). I ordered the exact same case a while back for the sheer size of it (I saw it on mkosem's site and damn near dropped a load in my drawers). It's good to see another person use it and have plenty of room. I guess I won't know exactly how spacious it is until I throw a pelt and 2nd power supply in it later this month (I'm considering the psu that mkosem suggested in the pelt forum for a 226W [running it underpowered at 15v/20a instead of 16v/24a] and water cooling it, though I'm not sure it'll hold up ... ).

Anyway, kick-ass setup!

nemaste · 07-05-2002, 02:15 PM

certainly the BIX is overkill. i have my nice example of a 1.6a running @ 2.1GHz (133fsb, 3xRIMM multiple) & my water never gets more than 7F over ambient. from my Digidoc 5 , as i type with SiSoft CPU burn-in test running for the past 26hrs:
ambient=25.2C, CPU=29.7C, H2O=29.1C, MB=29.9C, GPU=32.6C

BTW, did you see the lonely brass coupler? it actually is there for the 2 thermistors of my PWM & the Digidoc to measure h2o temps at the radiator inlet.

fragn': before i ran my system I tested the h2o circuitry overnight & the next morning my case was very warm & the pump felt like it was about to melt (didn't probe it, but it felt like around 110F & I know i'm over-exaggerating). even though i installed a nice socketed relay box (behind that duct) that kills the pump when the PC is turned off, i figured all that heat build up on the pump can't help while it was up & running (the hotter the pump gets, the more heat it can transfer to the water). most of my fans barely wheeze at ~30% RPM, so i imagine the duct is what keeps my pump from getting hot without making any of the fans run loud (the pump also has a thermistor for the ducted fan's PWM controller:~)). we know intuitively it has to help reduce water temps since the temp of the heated region (i call it a pump/water heater) is greatly reduced (remember from physics: Qdot~deltaT). you can feel the heat pouring out of a 1250 without much airflow & my duct pours all of the cold air from the fan all over it. after running all day it feels cooler to the touch, so there isn't much heat is getting into the water through the pump. i'm sorry that i don't have time now to quantify how much it helps, since i'm preparing for to move. for me, i had spare plastic on my toolshelf & it took only 10minutes to make, so using the duct wasn't a hard decision commit to

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07-01-2002, 11:42 PM	#1
nemaste Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: CA Posts: 78	1st h2o mods P4T-E 1.6a Xstacy Everything Ehiem 1250 Antec 1200 BIX Maze 3-1 (detuned to "3 mode") DDen chipset & video blocks (plain video block) i get more stability mainly (averaging 8F over ambient water, CPU, & MB temps with 12F over ambient on the video). the Digidoc probe show much cooler temps (88F@load from 92@load), but the Asus & MBM software show a slightly hotter CPU (56C@load from 53C@load). i'm inclined to believe the excessive air cooling i had before was simply cooling underneath the socket moreso than the core, since i do have more stability in 3DMark & SiSoft now. __________________ StrongShockModz

07-02-2002, 01:48 PM	#2
Gnozo Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 105	Damn...that looks really nice. Quite messy although? Is that BIX heavy enough to take care of the heat? __________________ AMD XP1700+ @ JIUHB 12 x 202 Epox 8RDA+ Samsung PC2700 512mb Asus V8420 TI4200 Eheim 1048 - Maze1 - AirPlex EVO240 - Lian Li PC-61

07-02-2002, 02:21 PM	#3
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	ya! the BIX can way more than handle that load. What is your OC like? --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

07-04-2002, 12:17 AM	#4
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	Hey nemaste I've looked at those pics 100 times and I just noticed somthing: the 80mm with the clear duct for cooling the pump, good idea, how well does it work? does it seem to lower your water temps at all? __________________ This space for rent

07-05-2002, 02:15 PM	#6
nemaste Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: CA Posts: 78	certainly the BIX is overkill. i have my nice example of a 1.6a running @ 2.1GHz (133fsb, 3xRIMM multiple) & my water never gets more than 7F over ambient. from my Digidoc 5 , as i type with SiSoft CPU burn-in test running for the past 26hrs: ambient=25.2C, CPU=29.7C, H2O=29.1C, MB=29.9C, GPU=32.6C BTW, did you see the lonely brass coupler? it actually is there for the 2 thermistors of my PWM & the Digidoc to measure h2o temps at the radiator inlet. fragn': before i ran my system I tested the h2o circuitry overnight & the next morning my case was very warm & the pump felt like it was about to melt (didn't probe it, but it felt like around 110F & I know i'm over-exaggerating). even though i installed a nice socketed relay box (behind that duct) that kills the pump when the PC is turned off, i figured all that heat build up on the pump can't help while it was up & running (the hotter the pump gets, the more heat it can transfer to the water). most of my fans barely wheeze at ~30% RPM, so i imagine the duct is what keeps my pump from getting hot without making any of the fans run loud (the pump also has a thermistor for the ducted fan's PWM controller:~)). we know intuitively it has to help reduce water temps since the temp of the heated region (i call it a pump/water heater) is greatly reduced (remember from physics: Qdot~deltaT). you can feel the heat pouring out of a 1250 without much airflow & my duct pours all of the cold air from the fan all over it. after running all day it feels cooler to the touch, so there isn't much heat is getting into the water through the pump. i'm sorry that i don't have time now to quantify how much it helps, since i'm preparing for to move. for me, i had spare plastic on my toolshelf & it took only 10minutes to make, so using the duct wasn't a hard decision commit to. __________________ StrongShockModz

07-04-2002, 01:02 PM	#5
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	Funny, I'm going to be assembling close to the same thing this weekend, except I'll be using a black edge block from becooling for the CPU and a VIA 1300 instead of the Eheim (why does that give me a bad hoodoo-type feeling). I ordered the exact same case a while back for the sheer size of it (I saw it on mkosem's site and damn near dropped a load in my drawers). It's good to see another person use it and have plenty of room. I guess I won't know exactly how spacious it is until I throw a pelt and 2nd power supply in it later this month (I'm considering the psu that mkosem suggested in the pelt forum for a 226W [running it underpowered at 15v/20a instead of 16v/24a] and water cooling it, though I'm not sure it'll hold up ... ). Anyway, kick-ass setup!

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