Aiyah Foams!!!

tofu2go · 07-05-2002, 02:20 PM

I just finished filling my system with distill water + water wetter. I let it run for about 30mins. THen I turned it off for the night... and this mornign when I woke up with a lot of water wetter foams in my system. How did they emerge!?! and how do I get rid of them?

V12|V12 · 07-05-2002, 02:21 PM

Seems like it came from the pump having some airbubbles in it and mixing things all around, it should settle out with some time.

tofu2go · 07-05-2002, 02:23 PM

so what do i do?

V12|V12 · 07-05-2002, 02:34 PM

I'm assuming you have an airtrap? With time or some moving around, all the bubbles will be gone... you should make a nice res/airtrap, that would quickly eliminate all of the annoying bubbles... Get on IRC and join the chan I'll be there if ya want some realtime advice...

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FRAGN'STIEN · 07-06-2002, 01:09 AM

If your running it with a fill tube make sure it's at the highest point in the system and 30 min is way to short a time to test. Let it run for a few hours and even a couple days straight would be better to make sure all the air is out. If you are using a fill tube as your res then it will take a while to bleed the system.

Nordic · 07-07-2002, 12:02 AM

If you're using a bleed/fill tube you should really consider finding a Y-fitting or getting a small res for the purpose of getting rid of the air a little quicker. In my system the water speed forced the bubbles past my bleed/fill tube when I used a 3/8" T-fitting.

FRAGN'STIEN: What do you mean with this statement about the placement of the fill tube?
"make sure it's at the highest point in the system"

That doesn't really make any sense in closed system. Water won't come spurting out unless you've got a serious air-leak, but that is easily solved by plugging the end of the bleed/fill tube or keeping the opening above every other component (where air can enter).

FRAGN'STIEN · 07-07-2002, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nordic
If you're using a bleed/fill tube you should really consider finding a Y-fitting or getting a small res for the purpose of getting rid of the air a little quicker. In my system the water speed forced the bubbles past my bleed/fill tube when I used a 3/8" T-fitting.

FRAGN'STIEN: What do you mean with this statement about the placement of the fill tube?
"make sure it's at the highest point in the system"

That doesn't really make any sense in closed system. Water won't come spurting out unless you've got a serious air-leak, but that is easily solved by plugging the end of the bleed/fill tube or keeping the opening above every other component (where air can enter).

Well in my old system the bleed fill tube was on the circuit from rad to block which happen to bo the highest point and seemed to bleed air faster. I would fill the system then hit the swich on my surge strip to start the pump, when the air came to the T fitting I would shut the pump off and let the bubbles rise to the top of the tube. I had the same problem as you with the T fitting, the air would just shoot past the fill tube so I used the method I just explained to you to manipulate the air out of the system. Now in my new setup I went to a res with a submerged pump and the bleeding process is much faster, only a few cycles and it's gone.

WebMasta33 · 07-07-2002, 02:11 AM

I came to find foam in my system when the res leaked out about 50% of the water...

Why? The waterwetter ate through my epoxy, turned it to goo.

but that's ok... I have a 5 gallon bucket to fix that...

Nordic · 07-07-2002, 08:57 AM

No need to shut down the pump, pinching the cable to slow down the flow might work equally well. But I see your point, the radiator and block are usually the spots where air pockets are formed, and when the flow stops the air might rise to the highest point if it can (might have to tilt the system).
A reservoir made wonders for me too, but I still run the pump inline and made the res small to save space.

07-05-2002, 02:20 PM	#1
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	Aiyah Foams!!! I just finished filling my system with distill water + water wetter. I let it run for about 30mins. THen I turned it off for the night... and this mornign when I woke up with a lot of water wetter foams in my system. How did they emerge!?! and how do I get rid of them?

07-05-2002, 02:21 PM	#2
V12\|V12 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio-State! <--Money Hussle! SUCKS Posts: 292	Seems like it came from the pump having some airbubbles in it and mixing things all around, it should settle out with some time. __________________ XP 1600+ AGOIA-Y (GreenLabel, UNLOCKED!@/ NF7-S 2.0/ PC 2700 DDR 10.5*172FSB(1806/ 1991 high), Vcore 1.792...@84.95Watts --86' Chevette Heater Core --1/2" Vinyl tubes --Via1300-Stealth Mod(QUIET!) ---Home made copper-tube block ---PVC small internal res

07-05-2002, 02:34 PM	#4
V12\|V12 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio-State! <--Money Hussle! SUCKS Posts: 292	I'm assuming you have an airtrap? With time or some moving around, all the bubbles will be gone... you should make a nice res/airtrap, that would quickly eliminate all of the annoying bubbles... Get on IRC and join the chan I'll be there if ya want some realtime advice... /server irc.lostgeek.com 6667 /j procooling.com __________________ XP 1600+ AGOIA-Y (GreenLabel, UNLOCKED!@/ NF7-S 2.0/ PC 2700 DDR 10.5*172FSB(1806/ 1991 high), Vcore 1.792...@84.95Watts --86' Chevette Heater Core --1/2" Vinyl tubes --Via1300-Stealth Mod(QUIET!) ---Home made copper-tube block ---PVC small internal res

07-06-2002, 01:09 AM	#5
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	If your running it with a fill tube make sure it's at the highest point in the system and 30 min is way to short a time to test. Let it run for a few hours and even a couple days straight would be better to make sure all the air is out. If you are using a fill tube as your res then it will take a while to bleed the system. __________________ This space for rent

07-07-2002, 12:02 AM	#6
Nordic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 98	If you're using a bleed/fill tube you should really consider finding a Y-fitting or getting a small res for the purpose of getting rid of the air a little quicker. In my system the water speed forced the bubbles past my bleed/fill tube when I used a 3/8" T-fitting. FRAGN'STIEN: What do you mean with this statement about the placement of the fill tube? "make sure it's at the highest point in the system" That doesn't really make any sense in closed system. Water won't come spurting out unless you've got a serious air-leak, but that is easily solved by plugging the end of the bleed/fill tube or keeping the opening above every other component (where air can enter). __________________ Pump:Eheim 1048, Radiator:LPD radiator 100x150x20mm, CPU block:DD Maze-2, GPU block: DD GPU block, Chipset block:Zalman NB32 AMD XP 1500+, EpoX 8K7A, PoV GF3Ti200 Pic of my YY-cube

07-05-2002, 02:23 PM	#3
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	so what do i do?

07-07-2002, 02:11 AM	#8
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	I came to find foam in my system when the res leaked out about 50% of the water... Why? The waterwetter ate through my epoxy, turned it to goo. but that's ok... I have a 5 gallon bucket to fix that... __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

07-07-2002, 08:57 AM	#9
Nordic Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 98	No need to shut down the pump, pinching the cable to slow down the flow might work equally well. But I see your point, the radiator and block are usually the spots where air pockets are formed, and when the flow stops the air might rise to the highest point if it can (might have to tilt the system). A reservoir made wonders for me too, but I still run the pump inline and made the res small to save space. __________________ Pump:Eheim 1048, Radiator:LPD radiator 100x150x20mm, CPU block:DD Maze-2, GPU block: DD GPU block, Chipset block:Zalman NB32 AMD XP 1500+, EpoX 8K7A, PoV GF3Ti200 Pic of my YY-cube

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