G4 waterblocks - Where to buy?

Ozzie · 07-10-2002, 02:54 PM

I mean the good ones like Bladerunner made...

Here's a good read - I want one!

http://www.deviantpc.com/articles/gf4wcp1/index.shtml

chazz469 · 07-10-2002, 03:00 PM

Well, as you know, he made his. Get some copper and start hackin'!

Ozzie · 07-10-2002, 03:30 PM

I have no access to a machine shop or I would...

I thought he mentioned someone picked up his work to be marketed - or maybe this was his G3 project - also very nice.

gmat · 07-10-2002, 03:42 PM

Go there, it's BladeRunner's site (worth a look already), you'll find links to ppl selling the block.
http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk/

Cyco-Dude · 07-10-2002, 06:40 PM

DangerDen will soon have a GF4 block ready for sale.
here are some pics of it.

Ozzie · 07-10-2002, 07:37 PM

Yup - I was looking at those too.
I was thinking of doing a totally seperate system for the G4 and maybe smaller hoses and lower flow...

This block look pretty cool and doesn't take up a lot of room...

I want something that works well and don't know about this one yet...

Not sure how many watts of heat there are to deal with here...anyone know the wattage range and if small hoses/flow would work?

I visited Bladerunner's site (thank you) and noticed he hasn't even completed the block yet, so it will probably be a while b/4 it's being marketed...

No sign of his products for sale either...

chazz469 · 07-10-2002, 07:50 PM

What about the video cooler from geminicool.com? It covers both RAM and GPU. Granted it's not as sleek as BladeRunner's, but it should be plenty functional. It's the one I'm thinking of getting, and besides....who's going to see it anyway once it's in use???

gmat · 07-11-2002, 03:43 AM

Try there:
http://www.cool-computers.com/site/default.asp

They sell a BladeRunner-designed GF3 waterblock. Ask them for adaptation to GF4..

(edit) Ozzie the block you're showing is from Innovatek (innovatek.de). Good one but made of alu, so beware if you've already got copper.

Hallis · 07-11-2002, 04:45 AM

would copper and silver have a bad reaction and tend to cause corrosion?

gmat · 07-11-2002, 06:38 AM

Yes.

Ozzie · 07-11-2002, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gmat
Try there:
http://www.cool-computers.com/site/default.asp

They sell a BladeRunner-designed GF3 waterblock. Ask them for adaptation to GF4..

(edit) Ozzie the block you're showing is from Innovatek (innovatek.de). Good one but made of alu, so beware if you've already got copper.

Thanks gmat - I was trying to check into that. I found a review of it at overclockers... http://www.overclockers.com/articles581/

It looks like a hybred of sorts:
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"I have to say this block is a very nice piece of work - a solid copper base, 7mm thick, with a plastic top bolted onto the base. I found this out because I was curious about its construction and cut into the black plastic skirt around the edge:

You can see how thick the copper base is compared to the rest of the block."
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It looked to perform fairly well and has a low profile which I am looking for.
Since I'll be making a seperate system for the gpu the choice can be made for a block and rad that will work together.

Thanks for the linkage - I'll check that out today...

bigben2k · 07-11-2002, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hallis
would copper and silver have a bad reaction and tend to cause corrosion?

Yes, and it's worse than you can imagine.

The same way that copper makes Aluminium corrode, the silver will make the copper corrode...

Of course both of these metals have to be in electrical contact with each other, through some kind of medium (water). a silver plating on copper is just fine (it's all dry).

Ozzie · 07-11-2002, 09:39 AM

I did send off an email to cool-computers asking about the G3 card kit and if they have the G4 adaptation...the pic looks like aluminum?...

Also saw the slot one blocks made of copper that are discontinued...

Three of these would make a sweet pelt chiller for my DD2 block.

...thanks again for the linkage

Ozzie · 07-11-2002, 10:00 AM

Sorry - I just read a FAQ on that site and they said the G3/4 kit had a copper bottom and the top was anodized alum...
And they do offer a smaller slot one all copper for chillers, but I was kind of liking that larger model.

Still early here...just had my coffee.

bigben2k · 07-11-2002, 10:09 AM

Still having coffee...

I don't understand why these manuf. insist on using a combo of Copper and Aluminium in a block.

Is Anodized aluminium actually going to prevent galvanic corrosion?

MeltMan · 07-11-2002, 11:00 AM

Thats a good question. It very well could, because the actual surface of the aluminum is no longer aluminum after anodization. It is a very hard oxide layer that is formed that has different properties than aluminum. Will it react with copper? Probably not as much. It may not react at all. I know that that oxide layer is very stable and holds pretty die colors as well.

gmat · 07-11-2002, 12:27 PM

Yes. I concur to that.
Although, a small scratch (on the surface in contact with water) and you're doomed...

Jessfm · 07-11-2002, 07:51 PM

well if you were in EU you could go for a neptune

upto 1/2"

ikonis · 07-11-2002, 09:42 PM

OMG THATS NICE

Atragon · 07-11-2002, 10:29 PM

I want one.

Cyco-Dude · 07-11-2002, 11:13 PM

great, not only do we NEEEEEEEED a WB roundup, but it looks like we need a GPU WB roundup as well

Jessfm, thats a nice looking piece of work

Ozzie · 07-12-2002, 09:37 AM

That sure does look trick - I want one too...

Hmmm..I do have a bud in the UK that might be shipping me something anyway...

How well does it work?
I was trying to find it info on it...could a link to that be posted?

Ozzie · 07-12-2002, 10:55 AM

I gotta quit posting b/4 my cofee...I found it...

http://www.overclockedpc.co.uk/produ...5ac8b67553eb94

Not available till July 15...

Why do they always get the neat stuff over on the other side of the pond from the US...

Jessfm · 07-12-2002, 07:51 PM

Well its performance is slightly compromised by the elbows , but some of the guys are asking for it in an "L" shape config , i.e only 1 elbow .
1 pipe in the side and 1 into the rear.

I guess the only card to actualy test these GPU blocks is an ASUS :shrug:
Anyway alot more pics and info can be found at Coolhardware

07-10-2002, 02:54 PM	#1
Ozzie Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 9	G4 waterblocks - Where to buy? I mean the good ones like Bladerunner made... Here's a good read - I want one! http://www.deviantpc.com/articles/gf4wcp1/index.shtml

07-10-2002, 03:00 PM	#2
chazz469 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 150	Well, as you know, he made his. Get some copper and start hackin'! __________________ "I believe that the moment is near when by a procedure of active paranoiac thought, it will be possible to systematize confusion to the total discrediting of the world of reality" -Salvador Dali AMD XP1600+ @1790MHz and rethinking my cooling.... MAZE3 --> DD Cooler Cube --> Eheim 1048 512MB PC2700 DDR MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU 2x 20GB Maxtor in RAID 0 1x 30GB Maxtor --> WinXP GF3 Ti200 @ 240/499

07-10-2002, 07:50 PM	#7
chazz469 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 150	What about the video cooler from geminicool.com? It covers both RAM and GPU. Granted it's not as sleek as BladeRunner's, but it should be plenty functional. It's the one I'm thinking of getting, and besides....who's going to see it anyway once it's in use??? __________________ "I believe that the moment is near when by a procedure of active paranoiac thought, it will be possible to systematize confusion to the total discrediting of the world of reality" -Salvador Dali AMD XP1600+ @1790MHz and rethinking my cooling.... MAZE3 --> DD Cooler Cube --> Eheim 1048 512MB PC2700 DDR MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU 2x 20GB Maxtor in RAID 0 1x 30GB Maxtor --> WinXP GF3 Ti200 @ 240/499

07-11-2002, 03:43 AM	#8
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Try there: http://www.cool-computers.com/site/default.asp They sell a BladeRunner-designed GF3 waterblock. Ask them for adaptation to GF4.. (edit) Ozzie the block you're showing is from Innovatek (innovatek.de). Good one but made of alu, so beware if you've already got copper. Last edited by gmat; 07-11-2002 at 03:47 AM.

07-11-2002, 10:09 AM	#15
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	Still having coffee... I don't understand why these manuf. insist on using a combo of Copper and Aluminium in a block. Is Anodized aluminium actually going to prevent galvanic corrosion? __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

07-10-2002, 03:30 PM	#3
Ozzie Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 9	I have no access to a machine shop or I would... I thought he mentioned someone picked up his work to be marketed - or maybe this was his G3 project - also very nice.

07-10-2002, 03:42 PM	#4
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Go there, it's BladeRunner's site (worth a look already), you'll find links to ppl selling the block. http://www.zerofanzone.co.uk/

07-10-2002, 06:40 PM	#5
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	DangerDen will soon have a GF4 block ready for sale. here are some pics of it.

07-10-2002, 07:37 PM	#6
Ozzie Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 9	Yup - I was looking at those too. I was thinking of doing a totally seperate system for the G4 and maybe smaller hoses and lower flow... This block look pretty cool and doesn't take up a lot of room... I want something that works well and don't know about this one yet... Not sure how many watts of heat there are to deal with here...anyone know the wattage range and if small hoses/flow would work? I visited Bladerunner's site (thank you) and noticed he hasn't even completed the block yet, so it will probably be a while b/4 it's being marketed... No sign of his products for sale either...

07-11-2002, 04:45 AM	#9
Hallis Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx Posts: 469	would copper and silver have a bad reaction and tend to cause corrosion?

07-11-2002, 06:38 AM	#10
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Yes.

07-11-2002, 09:39 AM	#13
Ozzie Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 9	I did send off an email to cool-computers asking about the G3 card kit and if they have the G4 adaptation...the pic looks like aluminum?... Also saw the slot one blocks made of copper that are discontinued... Three of these would make a sweet pelt chiller for my DD2 block. ...thanks again for the linkage

07-11-2002, 10:00 AM	#14
Ozzie Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 9	Sorry - I just read a FAQ on that site and they said the G3/4 kit had a copper bottom and the top was anodized alum... And they do offer a smaller slot one all copper for chillers, but I was kind of liking that larger model. Still early here...just had my coffee.

07-11-2002, 11:00 AM	#16
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	Thats a good question. It very well could, because the actual surface of the aluminum is no longer aluminum after anodization. It is a very hard oxide layer that is formed that has different properties than aluminum. Will it react with copper? Probably not as much. It may not react at all. I know that that oxide layer is very stable and holds pretty die colors as well. __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

07-11-2002, 12:27 PM	#17
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Yes. I concur to that. Although, a small scratch (on the surface in contact with water) and you're doomed...

07-11-2002, 07:51 PM	#18
Jessfm Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 110	well if you were in EU you could go for a neptune upto 1/2"

07-11-2002, 09:42 PM	#19
ikonis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2002 Location: East Texas Posts: 14	OMG THATS NICE

07-11-2002, 10:29 PM	#20
Atragon Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8	I want one.

07-11-2002, 11:13 PM	#21
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	great, not only do we NEEEEEEEED a WB roundup, but it looks like we need a GPU WB roundup as well Jessfm, thats a nice looking piece of work

07-12-2002, 09:37 AM	#22
Ozzie Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 9	That sure does look trick - I want one too... Hmmm..I do have a bud in the UK that might be shipping me something anyway... How well does it work? I was trying to find it info on it...could a link to that be posted?

07-12-2002, 10:55 AM	#23
Ozzie Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Twin Cities Posts: 9	I gotta quit posting b/4 my cofee...I found it... http://www.overclockedpc.co.uk/produ...5ac8b67553eb94 Not available till July 15... Why do they always get the neat stuff over on the other side of the pond from the US...

07-12-2002, 07:51 PM	#24
Jessfm Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 110	Well its performance is slightly compromised by the elbows , but some of the guys are asking for it in an "L" shape config , i.e only 1 elbow . 1 pipe in the side and 1 into the rear. I guess the only card to actualy test these GPU blocks is an ASUS :shrug: Anyway alot more pics and info can be found at Coolhardware

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