My (expensive) idea. . .

_Mike_ · 07-25-2002, 06:09 PM

After weeks of searching for a video card waterblock of my liking, I finally found the one I want. Unfortunately, I decided to buy 2 Spir@ls, one for my CPU and I want to use the second for my GeForce3. I believe I am capable of creating a mounting converter, using a piece or two of metal and my drill. (Propane torch will probably end up being used, because I am just so damned l337

.)

Anyway, has this been done before, and do you think I can pull it off?

bigben2k · 07-25-2002, 06:13 PM

I don't believe I've seen it anywhere.

Can it be done? Sure, but why? You can get a GPU block for a GeForce3. A spiral would be overkill: it'd require a bigger pump (because you'd have 2), and the cooling benefit is not what the card calls for, so really, it's more of a waste of (your) resources.

I dunno, it's up to you.

_Mike_ · 07-25-2002, 06:40 PM

Well, let me elaborate.

First off, cooling on the card (CPU as well) would be second to none. Right?

Second, I thought the Spir@l was very nonrestricting in terms of flow. I figured, with the 1/2" channels, it would have less impact then that of a small GF3 block.

Right? Wrong? Shut up?

Sanjuro · 07-25-2002, 07:28 PM

i'd like to see the mounting for that... Spir@ls are 50mm * 50mm right? that make it cover only half of the mounting holes on either side

_Mike_ · 07-25-2002, 07:35 PM

Well, a new mounting device would be constructed, I already have a drawing for it. (I'll recreate a MS-Paint version if it's really necessary.)

But now I have another idea. Maybe, I could get a hard drive waterblock from D-tek Customs, and construct some spacers, thus cooling the GPU and RAM. In all reality, that makes more sense to me, it's only $13 more, and provides (at least) twice the surface area. However, mounting would (maybe) be a bitch-and-a-half.

I say maybe because I actually have an idea, but I'll see about that later.

Anyone know the dimensions of the HDD block, and the weight?

Khledar · 07-25-2002, 08:32 PM

I'd give the HD block a big thumbs down. I just that it would be a lot of work for poor results. Especially when you could construct your own stuff that would be designed for the video card, rather than a HD.

ECUPirate · 07-25-2002, 08:43 PM

that would also assume that the GPU and the ram is on the same 'plane'. the GPU could be seated higher than the ram.

max007007 · 07-26-2002, 03:41 AM

DD gf4 block is comfirmed less rerstrictive.
Based on Maze3 design but more expensive.

_Mike_ · 07-26-2002, 11:58 AM

Okay, I don't want to lose my original question here. I ask that everyone read this post carefully.

1. The Spir@l is the best waterblock for my CPU (AthlonXP) at the moment.

2. At first (since I am relatively new to watercooling) I should stick to a basic setup - CPU only.

3. After I get better, I can add a video card and chipset waterblock, preferably on their own loop, using the best blocks available at that time.

And here's what I was thinking for my setup:

Spir@l for CPU
D-tek Heater Core ($30 is pretty much cheaper than locally.)
Danner MAG Drive pump (Locally, shooting for around 350GPH.)
Tygon from D-Tek.
Probably going to need a fan too, still deciding, that's no biggie.
(I'll probably make my own shroud when the time comes.)

airspirit · 07-26-2002, 05:59 PM

Your HDD shouldn't overheat. If you're worried, you'll get excellent performance out of a fan on it. They are supposed to run hot, methinks.

As far as a graphics card block, if you want to spend that kind of cash, go for it. I guess you can never throw too much at a machine, though you'll not see too much of a gain over a cheaper block. The question, though, is what you are going to do about the RAM. It isn't enough to just do the chip (however hardcore) and leave the RAM alone or you'll still have a f*cked card.

As far as starting small and growing goes, that does have its merits, but I'm of the school of thought that people should go all the way from the beginning (except for pelts or other exotic stuff). That way you can build the system around what you need in the END rather than slapping it together piecemeal.

Get an Eheim 1250 or look at something more powerful. As you get into multiple blocks, you will need the head power. If you are looking for an obscenely powerful pump, look at the NurseryPro line. The NPU500 pumps an obscene amount of water and is silent. Also, you can run it out of water (inline). The only issue with it is vibration that can transmit through the case. I just put some packing foam under it and problem solved.

One piece of advice: run the two blocks parallel to each other!!! You'll get best results that way. Also, if possible, run slightly smaller line to the GPU block to ensure that the CPU block gets the most water flow (since it needs greater cooling).

Otherwise, good luck!

07-25-2002, 06:09 PM	#1
_Mike_ Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 29	My (expensive) idea. . . After weeks of searching for a video card waterblock of my liking, I finally found the one I want. Unfortunately, I decided to buy 2 Spir@ls, one for my CPU and I want to use the second for my GeForce3. I believe I am capable of creating a mounting converter, using a piece or two of metal and my drill. (Propane torch will probably end up being used, because I am just so damned l337 .) Anyway, has this been done before, and do you think I can pull it off?

07-25-2002, 06:13 PM	#2
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I don't believe I've seen it anywhere. Can it be done? Sure, but why? You can get a GPU block for a GeForce3. A spiral would be overkill: it'd require a bigger pump (because you'd have 2), and the cooling benefit is not what the card calls for, so really, it's more of a waste of (your) resources. I dunno, it's up to you. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

07-25-2002, 07:28 PM	#4
Sanjuro Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Port Coquitlam, BC Posts: 74	i'd like to see the mounting for that... Spir@ls are 50mm * 50mm right? that make it cover only half of the mounting holes on either side __________________ Nothing to call home about...

07-25-2002, 08:32 PM	#6
Khledar Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Vancouver BC Posts: 234	I'd give the HD block a big thumbs down. I just that it would be a lot of work for poor results. Especially when you could construct your own stuff that would be designed for the video card, rather than a HD. __________________ "mooooo" said the cow. ERTW - UBC P4 2.4B @3.01Ghz 167FSB :: Abit IC7 :: 2x256MB HyperX PC3700 :: ASUS 9600XT :: WD Raptor 2x36GB RAID0

07-25-2002, 08:43 PM	#7
ECUPirate Hottest Stank of them All Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Washington, DC area Posts: 533	that would also assume that the GPU and the ram is on the same 'plane'. the GPU could be seated higher than the ram. __________________ Does a radioactive cat have 18 half lifes? --Kenny my pimpin' rig: ...previously poorly cooled... 486DX-2 66mhz @ 75mhz, 4Mb ram, shared, 256Mb hard drive Onboard VGA, watercooled, of course 16-color monitor, labtec speakers, 28kbs USRobotics modem Windows XP (think about it) Maze 3, DDen GF3 block, Eheim 1250, econoline van HC, 1/2" hose w/ 5/8" fittings Comair 172mm fan

07-25-2002, 06:40 PM	#3
_Mike_ Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 29	Well, let me elaborate. First off, cooling on the card (CPU as well) would be second to none. Right? Second, I thought the Spir@l was very nonrestricting in terms of flow. I figured, with the 1/2" channels, it would have less impact then that of a small GF3 block. Right? Wrong? Shut up?

07-25-2002, 07:35 PM	#5
_Mike_ Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 29	Well, a new mounting device would be constructed, I already have a drawing for it. (I'll recreate a MS-Paint version if it's really necessary.) But now I have another idea. Maybe, I could get a hard drive waterblock from D-tek Customs, and construct some spacers, thus cooling the GPU and RAM. In all reality, that makes more sense to me, it's only $13 more, and provides (at least) twice the surface area. However, mounting would (maybe) be a bitch-and-a-half. I say maybe because I actually have an idea, but I'll see about that later. Anyone know the dimensions of the HDD block, and the weight?

07-26-2002, 03:41 AM	#8
max007007 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 61	DD gf4 block is comfirmed less rerstrictive. Based on Maze3 design but more expensive. __________________ My Specs http://homex.coolconnect.com/member3...ages/Specs.jpg

07-26-2002, 11:58 AM	#9
_Mike_ Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 29	Okay, I don't want to lose my original question here. I ask that everyone read this post carefully. 1. The Spir@l is the best waterblock for my CPU (AthlonXP) at the moment. 2. At first (since I am relatively new to watercooling) I should stick to a basic setup - CPU only. 3. After I get better, I can add a video card and chipset waterblock, preferably on their own loop, using the best blocks available at that time. And here's what I was thinking for my setup: Spir@l for CPU D-tek Heater Core ($30 is pretty much cheaper than locally.) Danner MAG Drive pump (Locally, shooting for around 350GPH.) Tygon from D-Tek. Probably going to need a fan too, still deciding, that's no biggie. (I'll probably make my own shroud when the time comes.)

07-26-2002, 05:59 PM	#10
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	Your HDD shouldn't overheat. If you're worried, you'll get excellent performance out of a fan on it. They are supposed to run hot, methinks. As far as a graphics card block, if you want to spend that kind of cash, go for it. I guess you can never throw too much at a machine, though you'll not see too much of a gain over a cheaper block. The question, though, is what you are going to do about the RAM. It isn't enough to just do the chip (however hardcore) and leave the RAM alone or you'll still have a f*cked card. As far as starting small and growing goes, that does have its merits, but I'm of the school of thought that people should go all the way from the beginning (except for pelts or other exotic stuff). That way you can build the system around what you need in the END rather than slapping it together piecemeal. Get an Eheim 1250 or look at something more powerful. As you get into multiple blocks, you will need the head power. If you are looking for an obscenely powerful pump, look at the NurseryPro line. The NPU500 pumps an obscene amount of water and is silent. Also, you can run it out of water (inline). The only issue with it is vibration that can transmit through the case. I just put some packing foam under it and problem solved. One piece of advice: run the two blocks parallel to each other!!! You'll get best results that way. Also, if possible, run slightly smaller line to the GPU block to ensure that the CPU block gets the most water flow (since it needs greater cooling). Otherwise, good luck!

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