Found Tygon in Europe

gmat · 10-29-2002, 10:50 AM

I have prices from a reseller in Lyon, France.
It is R3603 formula, and is sold in 15m rolls only. I give per m price and roll price
9.5x12.7mm (=3/8", thin wall) 9.40 EUR / m, roll=141.00 EUR
9.5x14.3mm (=3/8", thick wall) 12.20 EUR / m, roll=183.00 EUR
11.1x14.3mm (=not sure..) 11.02 EUR / m, roll=165.30 EUR
12.7x15.9mm (=1/2", thin wall) 11.40 EUR / m, roll=171.00 EUR
12.7x17.5mm (=1/2", thick wall) 15.52 EUR / m, roll=232.80 EUR

Let's compare with BeCooling (thick wall only)
3/8" = about $7.7 /m
1/2" = about $8.7 /m
DTek or DangerDen have similar prices.

since $1 ~= 1 EUR...

Mhhhh and that's supposed to be a French product... Saint Gobain are real $µ£<censored>*$!

Well, i will not buy a roll of tube that costs more than a CPU or a HDD...

Roscal · 10-29-2002, 12:07 PM

Vive le tuyau crystal a 1.2euro/ml

g.l.amour · 10-29-2002, 12:32 PM

found some tygon also at

www.caoutchouc.be

those are giving even crazier prices:

11.99€/m + 21% sales tax + transport
minimum quantity is 15m

posted the findings on a belgian forum, and alot of ppl are going completely berserk over it; but damn, at those prices i can't be bothered. i now have douzens of pieces of crystal tubing luying around from rerouting the tubing, trying some new stuff out. after a year, my tubes look really blurry, and i just dump em. if i paid, what i am supposed to pay for tygon, it would hurt my heart throwing it away.

like roscoe says, vive le tuyau crystal.

i mean really, it is some benifit, but not worth that much money. if u want flexible stuff, u can still get si tubing.

gmat · 10-29-2002, 01:20 PM

I need sharp turns... So i ordered tygon from DTek along with some hardware (pro/combo, mmmhh).
Cheap 'Crystal' : i have lots of it as well.. But i'm tired of it collapsing and kinking at each turn.

g.l.amour · 10-30-2002, 03:15 PM

someday i might get some too. but tell me, it used to be all si tubing that was good. now nobody is talking about si tubing anymore.

the shop where i found the tygon told me that the Si tubing was way cheaper. so then what is the disadvantage of Si tubing except the appearance.

edit: mind my curiosity, what kind of other goodies did u order from DTEK?

Puzzdre · 10-30-2002, 04:01 PM

I presume si tubing was the best until tygon became available to all the mortals. Now the tygon has the 1st place, until something new and better...

g.l.amour · 10-30-2002, 04:54 PM

yeah, we will have machinery that when some chemistry laboratory g33k comes along, he won't believe his eyes. stuff used for high end chemistry stuff, in your pc... cooool

Puzzdre · 10-30-2002, 05:05 PM

LOL, so be it, they probably don't appreciate it like we do...

gmat · 10-31-2002, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by g.l.amour

edit: mind my curiosity, what kind of other goodies did u order from DTEK?

Heatercore + shroud

(pro/combo) at last i'll get a decent radiator.

g.l.amour · 10-31-2002, 03:48 AM

those are damn good rads indeed. yesterday i was playing ut for 2 hrs without the fans even being on (i didn't notice) i saw my temps were hardly 1°C over the temp with my fans at 5V. watertemps never get more than 2°C above ambient.

gmat · 10-31-2002, 03:51 AM

That's very interesting ! How many rads do you have ? (i mean, active, in your setup)
On the long run i plan to buy a 2nd one and run em passively.

g.l.amour · 10-31-2002, 04:34 AM

titan

g.l.amour · 10-31-2002, 04:35 AM

bigmomma

g.l.amour · 10-31-2002, 04:36 AM

both for sizing purposes; the small one has xact same dimensions as DTEK HC. cost me 25€ for both and 3 bottles of vinegar to flush all the crap out.

gmat · 10-31-2002, 04:49 AM

I've seen that in anoter thread. But are you *actually* using both in your system ? or just one ?
BTW if your fans lower your temps by 1°C, why bother ? You can run fanless..

g.l.amour · 10-31-2002, 04:55 AM

i use them both

first tried serial, nice temps, now i took the trouble finding Y fittings and mounting 'em parallel. temps didn't get better at all.

might have 2 causes:
1) system is already cooling at top performance so reducing flow resistance isn't showing alot of improvement

2) the maze2 restricts flow that much , that increasing flow after the WB doesn't change all that much

i just give them rad fans that much juice so i cannot hear the difference between on and off (so they aren't audible over PSU /1250/HDD. i thk that is +/- 5V... so they don't bother me much.

gmat · 10-31-2002, 05:27 AM

Well i think you are at max efficiency... Thats why serial vs parallel does not make much difference.
When you add more waterblocks to the loop, things may change though

g.l.amour · 10-31-2002, 06:08 AM

thats why i always say that getting more rads will serve u alot more than getting the latest and best WB or pump.

anyway, i'm very curious to c your custom case project we've been hearing so much about...

c ya

nexxo · 11-02-2002, 04:19 AM

: RS Online : are a UK company that also sell Tygon, in 15m rolls (I think 1/2" is about £60,-- a roll). Look it up on their site, under Products --> Mechanical --> Hydraulic --> Tubing etc.

Problem is, which PC watercooler needs 15m of the stuff?

10-29-2002, 10:50 AM	#1
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Found Tygon in Europe I have prices from a reseller in Lyon, France. It is R3603 formula, and is sold in 15m rolls only. I give per m price and roll price 9.5x12.7mm (=3/8", thin wall) 9.40 EUR / m, roll=141.00 EUR 9.5x14.3mm (=3/8", thick wall) 12.20 EUR / m, roll=183.00 EUR 11.1x14.3mm (=not sure..) 11.02 EUR / m, roll=165.30 EUR 12.7x15.9mm (=1/2", thin wall) 11.40 EUR / m, roll=171.00 EUR 12.7x17.5mm (=1/2", thick wall) 15.52 EUR / m, roll=232.80 EUR Let's compare with BeCooling (thick wall only) 3/8" = about $7.7 /m 1/2" = about $8.7 /m DTek or DangerDen have similar prices. since $1 ~= 1 EUR... Mhhhh and that's supposed to be a French product... Saint Gobain are real $µ£<censored>*$! Well, i will not buy a roll of tube that costs more than a CPU or a HDD...

10-30-2002, 04:01 PM	#6
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	I presume si tubing was the best until tygon became available to all the mortals. Now the tygon has the 1st place, until something new and better... __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

10-30-2002, 05:05 PM	#8
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	LOL, so be it, they probably don't appreciate it like we do... __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

11-02-2002, 04:19 AM	#19
nexxo Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brimingham, UK Posts: 385	: RS Online : are a UK company that also sell Tygon, in 15m rolls (I think 1/2" is about £60,-- a roll). Look it up on their site, under Products --> Mechanical --> Hydraulic --> Tubing etc. Problem is, which PC watercooler needs 15m of the stuff? __________________ "There is a thin line between magic and madness"

10-29-2002, 12:07 PM	#2
Roscal Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: North of France Posts: 198	Vive le tuyau crystal a 1.2euro/ml

10-29-2002, 12:32 PM	#3
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	found some tygon also at www.caoutchouc.be those are giving even crazier prices: 11.99€/m + 21% sales tax + transport minimum quantity is 15m posted the findings on a belgian forum, and alot of ppl are going completely berserk over it; but damn, at those prices i can't be bothered. i now have douzens of pieces of crystal tubing luying around from rerouting the tubing, trying some new stuff out. after a year, my tubes look really blurry, and i just dump em. if i paid, what i am supposed to pay for tygon, it would hurt my heart throwing it away. like roscoe says, vive le tuyau crystal. i mean really, it is some benifit, but not worth that much money. if u want flexible stuff, u can still get si tubing.

10-29-2002, 01:20 PM	#4
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	I need sharp turns... So i ordered tygon from DTek along with some hardware (pro/combo, mmmhh). Cheap 'Crystal' : i have lots of it as well.. But i'm tired of it collapsing and kinking at each turn.

10-30-2002, 03:15 PM	#5
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	someday i might get some too. but tell me, it used to be all si tubing that was good. now nobody is talking about si tubing anymore. the shop where i found the tygon told me that the Si tubing was way cheaper. so then what is the disadvantage of Si tubing except the appearance. edit: mind my curiosity, what kind of other goodies did u order from DTEK?

10-30-2002, 04:54 PM	#7
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	yeah, we will have machinery that when some chemistry laboratory g33k comes along, he won't believe his eyes. stuff used for high end chemistry stuff, in your pc... cooool

10-31-2002, 03:48 AM	#10
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	those are damn good rads indeed. yesterday i was playing ut for 2 hrs without the fans even being on (i didn't notice) i saw my temps were hardly 1°C over the temp with my fans at 5V. watertemps never get more than 2°C above ambient.

10-31-2002, 03:51 AM	#11
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	That's very interesting ! How many rads do you have ? (i mean, active, in your setup) On the long run i plan to buy a 2nd one and run em passively.

10-31-2002, 04:49 AM	#15
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	I've seen that in anoter thread. But are you actually using both in your system ? or just one ? BTW if your fans lower your temps by 1°C, why bother ? You can run fanless..

10-31-2002, 04:55 AM	#16
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	i use them both first tried serial, nice temps, now i took the trouble finding Y fittings and mounting 'em parallel. temps didn't get better at all. might have 2 causes: 1) system is already cooling at top performance so reducing flow resistance isn't showing alot of improvement 2) the maze2 restricts flow that much , that increasing flow after the WB doesn't change all that much i just give them rad fans that much juice so i cannot hear the difference between on and off (so they aren't audible over PSU /1250/HDD. i thk that is +/- 5V... so they don't bother me much.

10-31-2002, 05:27 AM	#17
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Well i think you are at max efficiency... Thats why serial vs parallel does not make much difference. When you add more waterblocks to the loop, things may change though

10-31-2002, 06:08 AM	#18
g.l.amour Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: on da case Posts: 933	thats why i always say that getting more rads will serve u alot more than getting the latest and best WB or pump. anyway, i'm very curious to c your custom case project we've been hearing so much about... c ya

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