Way to noisy time for water cooling

[Chuki]

Well I have plenty of high CFM fans, and I've only had them for maybe a week, and I'm about ready to throw all them damn fans out the window.

Anyway, I'm gonna water cool this thing. I want a pretty professional looking job, so I plan on doing most of it myself. I want a system I get all inside my case.

So here is some questions what is the best small radiator, that I can fit inside my case? The big momma is to big, I could fit, but I would hafta cut my case up and I don't want to do that. I was looking at the black ice fan. I also want pretty much a fanless PC, so the quiter the fan the better. I was looking at a panaflow 120mm fan, with a rheostat wired into it.

I'm not looking for extreme cold temps, I'm looking to get my cpu temps around 40C under full load.

Also what pump do I want to use? I want to put the pump in the resevoir, I plan on building a resevoir out of plexi glass. I'm looking for something about 3 inches tall, 2.5 inces wide, about 6inches long. I would like to mount this. Still not to sure where I want to mount the resevoir.

As for the waterblock I was thinking of a MazeII with either the 6 lug mount, or using the 4 holes on the outside of the socket.

Thanks for anyhelp. Remember I'm going for the most quiet pc possible.

[redleader]

Black Ice is great for powerful small cooling.

I wouldn't bother with a res. Just go all inline. Its MUCH easy for equal performance.

Rheostated L1As are definately the way to go. Although if you have a large rheostat (say 100hms rated for 5w) then an M1A would be good as well. That way you can't accidentially turn off the L1A, as I'm pretty sure that an L1A wouldn't spin at that resistance.

[Chuki]

Originally posted by redleader:
Rheostated L1As are definately the way to go. Although if you have a large rheostat (say 100hms rated for 5w) then an M1A would be good as well. That way you can't accidentially turn off the L1A, as I'm pretty sure that an L1A wouldn't spin at that resistance.

What are you talking about?

I'm sorry, I'm just new to watercooling and the such.

Also why not a resevoir, I understand I could do that without resevoir.

Also I ahve a minion 4000 case, what I was thinking of doing is cutting the side near the front lower corners, and use some tin sheet metal and make a duct for the fan and radiator. It would suck in one side, and exhaust in the opposing side. I guess right next to that I could mount an inline pump?

I was also thinking if I did a resevoir, I could make it so it sits in a 5 1/4 bay. Running without a resevoir though I could save some space.

[koro]

I used a small a 8oz clear rc car fuel tank for a res. The only benifits were that I can see if the coolant is flowing it's and it's easy to add more coolant to the system. However it doesn't increase cooling and takes up room.

The black Ice is good. If it fits use it. I've heard good things about them.

I have two panflow L1A 92mm fans (sucking) on my radiator(hayden 676) and it cools pretty good I guess. Lately it's been hot so with a ambient of 32 degress C my Athlon 1.4 OC'd to 1.6 will be at 36 idle and 41 under full load(messured again with a compu nurse on the die). I need A/C in my room! Even if my numbers aren't great at least my system is quite.

[Chuki]

if I got the same Temps you did I would be happy. I don't know how flaky the Asus probe is. Anyway, I'm not to good at converting temps. With my a/c on in my room I keep the ambien around 78F, which my CPU idle then is around 54C idle, and 56C Full load....

With my a/c off my ambient temp rises to about 88+ and my CPU temp is idle is 57C, as the temp gets higher ambient, I start to reach 59C at which any kinda load on my cpu and I get a BSOD error. This is with the ASUS monitor which I don't know how true it is at all. With my a/c full on, I can get my idle temps below 49C which is ambient about 70F and my computer is noisy as hell. I keep my a/c on around 78F anyways, nice and comfy. Although on days when I don't need my computer and monitor heat my tiny room up to the point where I need or I get BSOD errors.

Anyway lets get more onto water cooling, which water block do I want?
I was looking at the Maze2, I plan on getting the Black Ice. I'm not sure which fan... I want the quitest system I can get, fan and pump wise.

Now which pump do I want? It needs to be inline cause I'm doing with a resevoir.

Also what kind of tubing do I need? And do I go with 3/8" or 1/2" fittings?

What about cooling addatives? Purple ice, water wetter, etc... Will these addatives how any side effects using a dye light?

I think thats what that stuff was called you place a little into your water and use black light and it will make your hoses or tubes flourescent? I also got some wire looms, that do the same thing with a black light. I read somewhere about some stuff you can place on a rag and rub it over your ribbon cables to have the same effect with a black light.

Thanks for anymore help. Maybe after I do this water cooling setup. I'll go after a peltier system, from what I understand I have to put silicone or something similar on my motherboard...

Anywho thanks for anymore help you can give.

[resago]

maze2.1 upgrade (1/2") (but don't use the cold plate until you move on to peltier.)
10' 1/2" silicon hose
1/2" hose clamps
pumbers goop, silicon II
danner 350 or eheim 1250 pump
various fittings
blackice 1/2" w/ M1A fan

distilled water,water wetter, die lite of your choice.

that about sums it up.

[Nordic]

If you wan't a small capable pump I suggest using the Eheim 1046 or 1048. The 1250 is a little bulky and I question if you need the flow rate..

[Chuki]

I found the 1048 Pump, which is 158gph

Anyone have any dimensions on these, and how noisy are they?

Also it looks like I'll need to go woth 3/8" tube, everything I plan on getting has the fittings for 3/8" tube.

Thanks for anymore help

ALso where's the cheapest place I can get an ehiem pump.

[XOD]

Hey,
I am also a newbie to water cooling, I want to add pelts to my systems, but here is the thing, is that system you listed above good enough to cool cpu, northbridge and gf3?

If not, any recommendations?

[Kevin]

If I were you, I'd stay w/ 3/8" ID hose. You can convert the system to 1/2" some other time if you are unhappy w/ your performance. But as your first watercooling attempt, I would keep it simple. Grab a waterblock. Grab a pump. Get an Eheim one, because they are low-noise and high quality. Get 3/8" ID, 5/8" ID silicone hose from www.mcmaster.com. This thick-walled stuff is super flexible and won't crimp. For a radiator, I'd probably get a Black Ice radiator because it will come fitted w/ hose barbs and mounting stuff for ya. Plus it is quite the performer. So that's a basic system right there. Get acquainted with it and read up about watercooling more. Eventually you can tweak the system w/ things like converting hose to 1/2", adding components to the cooling loop, etc.
-Kevin

[tourist]

Originally posted by Kevin:
If I were you, I'd stay w/ 3/8" ID hose. You can convert the system to 1/2" some other time if you are unhappy w/ your performance. But as your first watercooling attempt, I would keep it simple. Grab a waterblock. Grab a pump. Get an Eheim one, because they are low-noise and high quality. Get 3/8" ID, 5/8" ID silicone hose from www.mcmaster.com. This thick-walled stuff is super flexible and won't crimp. For a radiator, I'd probably get a Black Ice radiator because it will come fitted w/ hose barbs and mounting stuff for ya. Plus it is quite the performer. So that's a basic system right there. Get acquainted with it and read up about watercooling more. Eventually you can tweak the system w/ things like converting hose to 1/2", adding components to the cooling loop, etc.
-Kevin

Do you mean 3/8" ID, 5/8" OD silicone hose?

[Butcher]

Originally posted by Chuki:
I found the 1048 Pump, which is 158gph

Anyone have any dimensions on these, and how noisy are they?

They're pretty large, about 6"x6"x4" with connectors, but they run quiet as a mouse, you can barely hear one from a few feet in open air so inside a case you would not hear one at all.

[redleader]

What are you talking about?

I'm sorry, I'm just new to watercooling and the such.

Rheostats are variable resistors. Turn it one way and more power flows through. Turn it the other and less flows. That way you can adjust the noise level comeing from your fans at the expense of air flow. Panaflos are a brand of cheap, quiet and very dependable fans that are commonly used in PC and watercooling.

I get mine at www.teamawe.com ThoughI'm a little biased because I think Joes a great guy.

Anyway putting a rheosat into a fans power lead makes it possible to run it much slower/quiter then by default. www.7volts.com has some info on them.