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Allright.. I'm having an argument with some friends, and the question that has come up is how copper and aluminum transfer heat to air. Are they correct that although copper can absorb heat better, aluminum can transfer heat to the air better?
What's the difference between thermal radiation and thermal conductivity?
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Radiation is the transfer of heat through the release of electromagnetic radiation. CPUs will lose almost no heat this way.
You're thinking of thermal convection, which is the transfer of heat from a solid to a fluid. As for Al vs. Cu, that road's been covered quite a few times. I'm sure someone else can find a good link. Alchemy |
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Specifically, this part is the most relevant:
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Meaning black anodised aluminium is a more effective radiator. But I doubth plain aluminium is better at radiation.
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Either way, it isn't terribly relevant, unless you're designing a cooling system for a satellite (where heat dissipated is ~100% radiation)
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It is relevant, for a passive heatsink, it makes a difference.
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Thanks. I actually found that site just after I posted. Dave Smith does a great job explaining things.
My friends were trying to tell me that the most efficient heat sink was one with a copper core, and aluminum fins which I knew to be wrong. In their minds, the aluminum transfered all heat to air better, which I knew to be mostly wrong, but didn't know where the line of truth lay. Thank you all for your help, you are both pimps and scholors.
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Not really, because most of your heat removal will still be through convection. Even if you have zero _forced_ airflow (fans, etc), you will still have airflow, due to hot air decreasing in density, and flowing upward, which is then replaced by cooler, denser air, and so on and so forth. As BB2K said, heat removal through radiation is not terribly relevant here on Earth, in most cases. ![]() |
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Alright, I'm now breaking out the heat transfer notes from last semester
![]() Yeah, with a passive heatsink you have what is called free convection. Forced Convection, with a fan, can be up to 100 times more efficient than free convection. From my textbook: Code:
Type of Convection Convection Coefficient (W/(m^2 * ºC)) -------------------------------- ------------------------------------- Free Convection: Atmospheric air 5-25 Free Convection: Water 400-1000 Forced Convection: Air 15-500 Forced Convection: Water 1000-15000 Forced Convection: Engine Oil 1000-2000 As for radiation, you are correct. I was misguided, because the table lists aluminium foil ![]()
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