For those interested in a Swiftech like Bleed system w/ 1/2" ID...

Kevin · 10-14-2001, 01:19 PM

Well after A LOT of searching through McMaster's exciting valve pages, i've more or less found a system that I think will work for bleeding 1/2" ID systems. Here are the part numbers for anyone interested. The only caveat about it was that I couldn't find a completely plastic one. I needed 3 brass parts in it. This may be too heavy for some people's liking, but I searched really hard and couldn't find plastic valves to suit me. Here are the part numbers...
46885K152 - You'll need two of these. It is a polypropylene "T" for the hose. It has 1/2" ID and has pipe fittings, not barbed fittings on all 3 openings.
4793K36 - I'll quote McMaster on this one: "Brass Shut-Off Cock W/Lever Handle, 1/2" NPT Male X Male." These are basically straight 1/2" x 1/2" male brass adaptors, however with a valve in the middle. You'll need 3 of these to shut off flow rates. One goes inbetween the two "T"s. The other two connect to the 90 degree connections on the Ts.
4885K11 - Last part... you'll need 4 of 'em. This just converts the 1/2" pipe threadings into 1/2" barbs. It is made of polypropylene. Just connect these on the openings.
Woohoo! I finally found parts for the bleeding system. I'm happy. If anyone is INREDIBLY bored, mind checking this stuff to make sure I didn't screw up?
-Kev

edit: just bold-faced the part #s

[ 10-15-2001: Message edited by: Kevin ]

dantheman · 10-14-2001, 05:34 PM

That is exactly the settup I bought. IT is hard to find a place to put inside of your case though. I am thinking of mounting it on the front of mine.

Kevin · 10-14-2001, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dantheman:
That is exactly the settup I bought. IT is hard to find a place to put inside of your case though. I am thinking of mounting it on the front of mine.

Really? You bought the exact same parts as me? I mean there are a few that are interchangable... so that's kinda funny that this is the EXACT setup you got

. I see these to actually be best fit to go outside of my case on the back. I mean if i'm draining my fluid, I most likely have some kind of agenda on the inside of the case, but at the same time, it is cool to know that i can drain/fill the system w/out having to open it. I think I may buy some 1/2" NPT female plugs. That way just in case the two valves get turned to the open position when they're not supposed to (OUCH! what a bad prank to play on someone

), wtaer doesn't fly everywhere. I like how not having a reservoir will keep my system weight down.
-Kevin

redleader · 10-14-2001, 11:16 PM

Awesome you just saved me at least an hour

Kevin · 10-15-2001, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by redleader:
Awesome you just saved me at least an hour

Haha no prob man. I was just looking through it and when I was finally done, I was like "Woah! That took a while." I figured I might as well save some people some time. haha try just looking through the McMaster "valve" section... I never knew there were so many damn valves in this world! Like I said though, it all looks fine and dandy, but I make no guaruntees. I haven't received the parts yet.
-Kev

dantheman · 10-15-2001, 08:36 AM

Ya, I played in their valve section for quite a while. THe only difference in my system is that it is restricted to 3/8 at the ends. I know, I am still a 3/8 wussy. (I bairly have enough room for that, hehe) But. . . Ya same lockable handles and everything. Just to let you know though, when assembled, it is kinda big. I don't have a place to install it. . . so it is waiting for my next project with 1/2 tubeing

Kevin · 10-15-2001, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by dantheman:
Just to let you know though, when assembled, it is kinda big. I don't have a place to install it. . . so it is waiting for my next project with 1/2 tubeing

Yeah I bet it is kinda big. I'll probably run it externall down the back. Should be okay. We shall see

.

dantheman · 10-15-2001, 03:26 PM

I thought about doing just that. . . but was didn't quite know how I was going to do that. I thought about drilling holes in the case, but then tryed to figure out how I would get that side of the case off. It is all stuck inside of an AT case, so it all pulls apart as one. Out side on one side was not an option. If I can get a 1/2 three way elbow, I will use that and mount it on the front.

pHaestus · 10-18-2001, 01:18 PM

hey thanks! I was just about to start putting parts together for this; you saved me the trouble.

I was planning on running my setup in the space next to the PCI cards on the inside rear of my case. Is it too large for that? I will shortly have a PC70 to H2O cool in so I am certain it'll fit SOMEWHERE

Kevin · 10-18-2001, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pHaestus:
hey thanks! I was just about to start putting parts together for this; you saved me the trouble.

Haha no problem. Tell your friends!

dantheman · 10-18-2001, 02:40 PM

I have a few pictures of it built up.

*copy and paste*

This one is of it directly next to the side of my comptuer. Base it off of 2 normal atx psu's http://dantheman.5u.com/DCP_2025.JPG

This one is a bit hard to visualize, but based off of the side of a full tower, and a Indigo 2 http://dantheman.5u.com/DCP_2027.JPG

THis one is just of the front of my comptuer, It will show you the size of the wall, or at least a basis of it. http://dantheman.5u.com/front.JPG

pHaestus · 10-18-2001, 03:18 PM

holy crap! Muy grande!@

redleader · 10-18-2001, 03:34 PM

Ok that will never fit in my midtower. Looks like I will have to do some digging afterall.

Kevin · 10-18-2001, 04:55 PM

That's a little big. I'm on the hunt for a better solution...
-Kev

pHaestus · 10-18-2001, 05:09 PM

They have several kinds of ball valves with 1/2" fittings at Home Depot that would work. The most promising are copper with a center larger than the barbs (to allow the ball) and then a lever on the top bolted on. The lever that they come with are large, but there is no reason you couldn't just unbolt it and replace it with a much smaller lever or knob of your choosing. They were I think $7 or so. There were also some white PVC ones with round knobs. It looked like the other types of vavles really restrict flow while the ball valves don't look like they will affect flow at all.

Kevin · 10-18-2001, 05:19 PM

There are polypropylene 3-way valves, but at $40+ per valve, I don't htink that's what we're going for...
-Kev

pHaestus · 10-18-2001, 05:26 PM

I may order these:
http://www.petwarehouse.com/webstore...e?OpenDocument

I am still looking around though for now...

gmat · 10-19-2001, 03:44 AM

Eheim rules

Try to find those Eheim valves the handle is less bulky - unless you like having those huge blue things hanging over

I found em easily in a local pet store, so i guess it wouldnt be difficult to find em on internet.

Darkhorse · 10-19-2001, 07:55 AM

Surefoot, Fluval do these valves.

Sorry about the piccie guys, but this was for an article I did.

They are actually a double valve that seperates. There is only about a teaspoon of liquid between the valves. They do them in 16mm sizes as well.

[ 10-19-2001: Message edited by: Darkhorse ]

[ 10-19-2001: Message edited by: Darkhorse ]

gmat · 10-20-2001, 09:17 AM

The valves i got are simple ball taps, with a relatively small handle.
Look at turbokeu's setup (further in that forum) he's got them as well.

Lord Twilight · 10-22-2001, 08:45 PM

Wait, with those three things from McMaster, for the brass air cocks, you have the NPT male x NPT male, then for the barbed pipe fittings, you have NPT male x barbed. Wouldn't you need an NPT female x NPT female brass air cock to use those NPT male x barbed? Or am I missing something?

[ 10-22-2001: Message edited by: Lord Twilight ]

Kevin · 10-22-2001, 09:20 PM

yah you're right... whoops

.
-Kev

10-14-2001, 01:19 PM	#1
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	For those interested in a Swiftech like Bleed system w/ 1/2" ID... Well after A LOT of searching through McMaster's exciting valve pages, i've more or less found a system that I think will work for bleeding 1/2" ID systems. Here are the part numbers for anyone interested. The only caveat about it was that I couldn't find a completely plastic one. I needed 3 brass parts in it. This may be too heavy for some people's liking, but I searched really hard and couldn't find plastic valves to suit me. Here are the part numbers... 46885K152 - You'll need two of these. It is a polypropylene "T" for the hose. It has 1/2" ID and has pipe fittings, not barbed fittings on all 3 openings. 4793K36 - I'll quote McMaster on this one: "Brass Shut-Off Cock W/Lever Handle, 1/2" NPT Male X Male." These are basically straight 1/2" x 1/2" male brass adaptors, however with a valve in the middle. You'll need 3 of these to shut off flow rates. One goes inbetween the two "T"s. The other two connect to the 90 degree connections on the Ts. 4885K11 - Last part... you'll need 4 of 'em. This just converts the 1/2" pipe threadings into 1/2" barbs. It is made of polypropylene. Just connect these on the openings. Woohoo! I finally found parts for the bleeding system. I'm happy. If anyone is INREDIBLY bored, mind checking this stuff to make sure I didn't screw up? -Kev edit: just bold-faced the part #s [ 10-15-2001: Message edited by: Kevin ] __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

10-18-2001, 01:18 PM	#9
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	hey thanks! I was just about to start putting parts together for this; you saved me the trouble. I was planning on running my setup in the space next to the PCI cards on the inside rear of my case. Is it too large for that? I will shortly have a PC70 to H2O cool in so I am certain it'll fit SOMEWHERE __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

10-18-2001, 03:18 PM	#12
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	holy crap! Muy grande!@ __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

10-18-2001, 04:55 PM	#14
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	That's a little big. I'm on the hunt for a better solution... -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

10-18-2001, 05:09 PM	#15
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	They have several kinds of ball valves with 1/2" fittings at Home Depot that would work. The most promising are copper with a center larger than the barbs (to allow the ball) and then a lever on the top bolted on. The lever that they come with are large, but there is no reason you couldn't just unbolt it and replace it with a much smaller lever or knob of your choosing. They were I think $7 or so. There were also some white PVC ones with round knobs. It looked like the other types of vavles really restrict flow while the ball valves don't look like they will affect flow at all. __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

10-14-2001, 05:34 PM	#2
dantheman Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 152	That is exactly the settup I bought. IT is hard to find a place to put inside of your case though. I am thinking of mounting it on the front of mine.

10-14-2001, 11:16 PM	#4
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Awesome you just saved me at least an hour

10-15-2001, 08:36 AM	#6
dantheman Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 152	Ya, I played in their valve section for quite a while. THe only difference in my system is that it is restricted to 3/8 at the ends. I know, I am still a 3/8 wussy. (I bairly have enough room for that, hehe) But. . . Ya same lockable handles and everything. Just to let you know though, when assembled, it is kinda big. I don't have a place to install it. . . so it is waiting for my next project with 1/2 tubeing

10-15-2001, 03:26 PM	#8
dantheman Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 152	I thought about doing just that. . . but was didn't quite know how I was going to do that. I thought about drilling holes in the case, but then tryed to figure out how I would get that side of the case off. It is all stuck inside of an AT case, so it all pulls apart as one. Out side on one side was not an option. If I can get a 1/2 three way elbow, I will use that and mount it on the front.

10-18-2001, 02:40 PM	#11
dantheman Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 152	I have a few pictures of it built up. copy and paste This one is of it directly next to the side of my comptuer. Base it off of 2 normal atx psu's http://dantheman.5u.com/DCP_2025.JPG This one is a bit hard to visualize, but based off of the side of a full tower, and a Indigo 2 http://dantheman.5u.com/DCP_2027.JPG THis one is just of the front of my comptuer, It will show you the size of the wall, or at least a basis of it. http://dantheman.5u.com/front.JPG

10-18-2001, 03:34 PM	#13
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Ok that will never fit in my midtower. Looks like I will have to do some digging afterall.

10-18-2001, 05:19 PM	#16
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	There are polypropylene 3-way valves, but at $40+ per valve, I don't htink that's what we're going for... -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

10-18-2001, 05:26 PM	#17
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I may order these: http://www.petwarehouse.com/webstore...e?OpenDocument I am still looking around though for now... __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

10-19-2001, 03:44 AM	#18
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Eheim rules Try to find those Eheim valves the handle is less bulky - unless you like having those huge blue things hanging over I found em easily in a local pet store, so i guess it wouldnt be difficult to find em on internet.

10-19-2001, 07:55 AM	#19
Darkhorse Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: UK Posts: 103	Surefoot, Fluval do these valves. Sorry about the piccie guys, but this was for an article I did. They are actually a double valve that seperates. There is only about a teaspoon of liquid between the valves. They do them in 16mm sizes as well. [ 10-19-2001: Message edited by: Darkhorse ] [ 10-19-2001: Message edited by: Darkhorse ]

10-20-2001, 09:17 AM	#20
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	The valves i got are simple ball taps, with a relatively small handle. Look at turbokeu's setup (further in that forum) he's got them as well.

10-22-2001, 08:45 PM	#21
Lord Twilight Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 47	Wait, with those three things from McMaster, for the brass air cocks, you have the NPT male x NPT male, then for the barbed pipe fittings, you have NPT male x barbed. Wouldn't you need an NPT female x NPT female brass air cock to use those NPT male x barbed? Or am I missing something? [ 10-22-2001: Message edited by: Lord Twilight ] __________________ I've come to suck the fun out of the night.

10-22-2001, 09:20 PM	#22
Kevin Slacking more than your weird uncle Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: San Diego, CA (UCSD) / Los Angeles, CA (home) Posts: 1,605	yah you're right... whoops . -Kev __________________ I used to throw hot coffee all over the ass of the horse there, then whip him while he was kickin' at me. Those f***in things are crazy.

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