D-Tek White Water

[8-Ball]

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[Giblet Plus!]

Sweet.

I was hoping that dtek would do the black top thing.

[BillA]

one can tell Cathar is not on a dial-up
wish he'd learn to crop and compress a bit

pricing ?

well, that 'sweet' black top also forces one to use an effective corrosion inhibitor
- with all that entails

[Since87]

If their pricing is similar to the rumors I hear, they should have significant sales volume.

I would think an optional copper top for a price premium would only help that sales volume.

[BillA]

Originally posted by Since87
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I would think an optional copper top for a price premium would only help that sales volume.

yup, who is going to tell Danny ?
report back, eh ?

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by unregistered
yup, who is going to tell Danny ?
report back, eh ?

Me... I have told Danny many times in regards to him taking over the WW (long story) that in addition to the al. top he MUST offer a copper top as an option. This will happen. He is also throwing around the idea of a poly top but we will see on that.

[Blackeagle]

I'd go for a lexan top way before a aluminum one. I have a lot more faith in lexan's strength than I do in aluminum not finding a way to corrode.

Fact is I'd trust the lexan to the point where I'd buy it over the copper one. I know that will raise a howl, but that is my feeling on it. Don't have the same faith in other plexi's, just lexan.

[Mark Larson]

But why would you buy a Lexan top over a copper one when the copper one doesn't have any disadvantages other than weight?

I can see buying a Lexan top over aluminum, but copper...?

[BillA]

he dosen't have to polish the plastic

[Cathar]

Originally posted by unregistered
one can tell Cathar is not on a dial-up
wish he'd learn to crop and compress a bit

pricing ?

well, that 'sweet' black top also forces one to use an effective corrosion inhibitor
- with all that entails

Actually I am on dial-up, but at 64K per picture (~11 secs each for a 56K dial-up) it's not that bad. The pictures are raw images from the digital camera as I snapped them quickly and didn't have immediate access to any photo editing software at the time I posted them.

The barbs are sealed using O-rings which greatly reduces any chance of the finish being scratched. Given that you'd probably never pull them out the finish should be fairly safe. The top-plate mates flat, so again so real risk of scratching.

However, I too would like to see a copper top and have made that known quite clearly. The issue of course is cost (of polishing) and weight.

[sn_85]

Cathar i have a question, do you know how much your original White Water weighed?

[nikhsub1]

Originally posted by Cathar
However, I too would like to see a copper top and have made that known quite clearly. The issue of course is cost (of polishing) and weight.

Yes this is true... The way Danny makes the tops, they are much thicker than Cathar's original, this is because Danny loves his new barbs I believe that people WILL pay extra for copper tops over the al. I know I would. I know that you (Cathar) really don't like poly tops but on this particular block, I think it would work very well. We'll just have to see what happens. If enough people request copper/poly tops, Danny HAS to make them.

[Cathar]

Originally posted by sn_85
Cathar i have a question, do you know how much your original White Water weighed?

About 420g with the newer barbs (blocks around #090 onwards), and about 450g with the older barbs.

I've since been aware that the AMD heatsink recommendation is 300g. Crappy font reproduction on the document I read initially led me to think it was 500g.

[sn_85]

the reason why i asked was because i dont think most buying a performance waterblock put weight as a concern. i know people put it as a con but i dont see the weight problem stopping heatsink manufacturers from producing overweight heatsinks. and people dont really care about that fact either as Thermalright SLK800 heatsinks sell very well even though it weighs around 500grams. and with the bigger SLK900 im sure it wont have problems getting recommendations. more people are concerned about the battery effect and the quality of annodizing rather then weight. so i dont think you'll lose sales on copper tops based on weight but rather on the cost of copper.

i've got a Thermalright SLK800 and now its waiting to be replaced by a White Water

[Blackeagle]

Mark Larson,

I've seen 1/2" lexan struck with all the force a convict could put into it in the prison I work at, it didn't crack. With all the differant abuse I've seen it take without breaking I have full confidance in it to last in this use without any problems. The reason I said only a Lexan top is due to the fact that Lexan is about 30X stronger than any other clear plastic.

But in fairness I've seen Morphling 1 and others having good luck with acrylic as well.


BillA.

I just happen to like the look of a clear top over any solid one. Can't see the UV dyes through a solid top real well.

[BillA]

you're ahead of me,
I can't see through the side of my case

[Blackeagle]

ROTFLMAO BillA !


I want this next system to combine show and go.

[TerraMex]

I can. I normally use special glasses to get that effect. Except when it's summer, i change them , just in case.

Back on topic.

@Cathar:

Will the WW have a representative here in EU?

[Cathar]

Originally posted by TerraMex
Back on topic.

@Cathar:

Will the WW have a representative here in EU?

I would imagine that any D-Tek would be most happy to provide blocks to EU based resellers if they asked.

That's the side of the business that I'm not really involved in, but if you want to see them in the EU, then contact a reseller that you trust and ask them to talk to D-Tek.

I know that D-Tek has pretty much gotten guaranteed resellers for all of North America (incl. Canada), not that this is of much help. I know of two resellers in France and Italy who contacted me while I was selling the WW, and I'll be forwarding them on to D-Tek.

Actually, I do know that both of them read this forum, so I guess that they would already know by now.

[GenGoku]

Originally posted by Blackeagle
Mark Larson,

I've seen 1/2" lexan struck with all the force a convict could put into it in the prison I work at, it didn't crack. With all the differant abuse I've seen it take without breaking I have full confidance in it to last in this use without any problems. The reason I said only a Lexan top is due to the fact that Lexan is about 30X stronger than any other clear plastic.

But in fairness I've seen Morphling 1 and others having good luck with acrylic as well.


BillA.

I just happen to like the look of a clear top over any solid one. Can't see the UV dyes through a solid top real well.

And i think BattleBots uses a lexan arena to protect the audience from those menacing bots of carnage :P

[TerraMex]

I would imagine that any D-Tek would be most happy to provide blocks to EU based resellers if they asked.
That's the side of the business that I'm not really involved in, but if you want to see them in the EU, then contact a reseller that you trust and ask them to talk to D-Tek.
I know that D-Tek has pretty much gotten guaranteed resellers for all of North America (incl. Canada), not that this is of much help. I know of two resellers in France and Italy who contacted me while I was selling the WW, and I'll be forwarding them on to D-Tek.
Actually, I do know that both of them read this forum, so I guess that they would already know by now.

Thx for the fast reply . I'll keep my eye peeled .

Unfortunatly i've already talked to some resellers about getting some US products and the shipping fees are horrible. Just to give an example , recently a friend of mine got a Sprinter (he's a spectrum freak) and payed about 50 bucks for the sprinter and 60 for the shipping and handling.

[8-Ball]

Originally posted by Blackeagle
I just happen to like the look of a clear top over any solid one. Can't see the UV dyes through a solid top real well.

I assume you'd want the middle plate switched for lexan as well, cos if you just switch the aluminium out, you'd be staring at a solid piece of copper.

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