better pump = hydor L30 or danner mag 5?

TerroH8er · 05-11-2003, 02:12 PM

I tried searching this but nothing really came up..

I'm looking for a good, fairly reliable, mid range pump for my future h20 system. My system will consist of a GPU block (MCW50), NB block (probably Dtek FSB block), and Dtek's WhiteWater CPU block.. Just looking from the specs, the Danner pump pumps about 280gph more than the Hydor. Both pumps are the same price. I heard that Hydor pumps are very reliable, but I haven't heard much about the Danner. Has anyone had any experience with Danner pumps?

How much better would the Danner perform over the Hydor?

Thanks,
Terro

Cyco-Dude · 05-11-2003, 02:54 PM

do a forum search for danner mag drive

TerroH8er · 05-11-2003, 04:37 PM

thanks - I just did a search and overall they seem pretty good. Any reason why the Danners are so much cheaper even though the Mag Drive 5 is almost double the gph and they aren't as popular in the WC community?

Cosmetics and noise level aren't important to me btw...

Crosstrack16 · 05-11-2003, 05:28 PM

supposedly because the impeller in the magdrive is the only moving part, equally less complexity in design and fab.

Balinju · 05-11-2003, 05:38 PM

the mag drive is 45W. that's a draw back

but on the other aspects i think that it is better then the via

fresno12 · 05-11-2003, 06:56 PM

I have been running a Danner Mag 5 in my system for over 1 year now . Basically 24/7 except for shut downs for maintenence, chage the water clear the fan filters, and blow the dust out of the radiator.

I t has been a very dependable pump for me and it is quiet.

So if the Danner is cheaper for you I'd say go for it. Make sure you go with 1/2" system since you are going to cool the CPU and Gpu

fresno12

TerroH8er · 05-11-2003, 06:57 PM

45w of what? heat? Would this affect performance any? Could I add a fan blowing on it?

Sorry watercooling newb here lol

edit: fresno they are both the same price, $50..

Crosstrack16 · 05-11-2003, 07:09 PM

i think he means power requirements

TerroH8er · 05-11-2003, 07:52 PM

that's what I was thinking at first.. but i mean.. no offense but it's like what? 10 cents extra a month? It plugs into the wall AC outlet right?

Crosstrack16 · 05-11-2003, 07:54 PM

unless you have it so that it turns on with the pc automaticaly

Balinju · 05-12-2003, 06:11 AM

it draws 45w of electicial power, now most of the power has to be dissipated into the water unless the pump is external and it has some kind of fins around the motor with a fan blowing onto them like well pumps. so in some other words, your rad has to dissipate ~ 40W of extra heat coming from the pump.

the hydor l30 runs at 27W, almost half of that. but remember that with the hydor you have less head and less flow. the danner mag 5 offers more head and flow but $ucks more power.

Cathar · 05-12-2003, 06:28 AM

I personally feel that the Mag 3 is a better choice than the Mag 5 in terms of power consumption for the resultant flow rate.

Cyco-Dude · 05-12-2003, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TerroH8er
Any reason why the Danners are so much cheaper even though the Mag Drive 5 is almost double the gph and they aren't as popular in the WC community?

cheaper than what? eheims? eheims are imported from overseas i believe.

Quote:

Originally posted by Crosstrack16
supposedly because the impeller in the magdrive is the only moving part, equally less complexity in design and fab.

actually most of the pumps people use for watercooling (eheim, danner, via aqua, hydor) are all mag-drive pumps.

i agree with Cathar, the danner mag-3 would be a better choice. it has the same max head of 10.5' yet draws 35w (as opposed to 45w). heres a chart

TerroH8er · 05-12-2003, 02:19 PM

ok thanks guys, this really helped.. I'm actually leaning toward the Hydor now I think

05-11-2003, 02:12 PM	#1
TerroH8er Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 6	better pump = hydor L30 or danner mag 5? I tried searching this but nothing really came up.. I'm looking for a good, fairly reliable, mid range pump for my future h20 system. My system will consist of a GPU block (MCW50), NB block (probably Dtek FSB block), and Dtek's WhiteWater CPU block.. Just looking from the specs, the Danner pump pumps about 280gph more than the Hydor. Both pumps are the same price. I heard that Hydor pumps are very reliable, but I haven't heard much about the Danner. Has anyone had any experience with Danner pumps? How much better would the Danner perform over the Hydor? Thanks, Terro

05-11-2003, 05:38 PM	#5
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	the mag drive is 45W. that's a draw back but on the other aspects i think that it is better then the via __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid

05-12-2003, 06:11 AM	#11
Balinju Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Malta Posts: 495	it draws 45w of electicial power, now most of the power has to be dissipated into the water unless the pump is external and it has some kind of fins around the motor with a fan blowing onto them like well pumps. so in some other words, your rad has to dissipate ~ 40W of extra heat coming from the pump. the hydor l30 runs at 27W, almost half of that. but remember that with the hydor you have less head and less flow. the danner mag 5 offers more head and flow but $ucks more power. __________________ So the bullet proof vest aint a $hit when d laser is pointed to your head Kid

05-11-2003, 02:54 PM	#2
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	do a forum search for danner mag drive

05-11-2003, 04:37 PM	#3
TerroH8er Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 6	thanks - I just did a search and overall they seem pretty good. Any reason why the Danners are so much cheaper even though the Mag Drive 5 is almost double the gph and they aren't as popular in the WC community? Cosmetics and noise level aren't important to me btw...

05-11-2003, 05:28 PM	#4
Crosstrack16 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 169	supposedly because the impeller in the magdrive is the only moving part, equally less complexity in design and fab.

05-11-2003, 06:56 PM	#6
fresno12 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 22	I have been running a Danner Mag 5 in my system for over 1 year now . Basically 24/7 except for shut downs for maintenence, chage the water clear the fan filters, and blow the dust out of the radiator. I t has been a very dependable pump for me and it is quiet. So if the Danner is cheaper for you I'd say go for it. Make sure you go with 1/2" system since you are going to cool the CPU and Gpu fresno12

05-11-2003, 06:57 PM	#7
TerroH8er Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 6	45w of what? heat? Would this affect performance any? Could I add a fan blowing on it? Sorry watercooling newb here lol edit: fresno they are both the same price, $50..

05-11-2003, 07:09 PM	#8
Crosstrack16 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 169	i think he means power requirements

05-11-2003, 07:52 PM	#9
TerroH8er Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 6	that's what I was thinking at first.. but i mean.. no offense but it's like what? 10 cents extra a month? It plugs into the wall AC outlet right?

05-11-2003, 07:54 PM	#10
Crosstrack16 Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Spring Hill, FL Posts: 169	unless you have it so that it turns on with the pc automaticaly

05-12-2003, 06:28 AM	#12
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	I personally feel that the Mag 3 is a better choice than the Mag 5 in terms of power consumption for the resultant flow rate.

05-12-2003, 02:19 PM	#14
TerroH8er Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: PA, USA Posts: 6	ok thanks guys, this really helped.. I'm actually leaning toward the Hydor now I think

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