Fridge Cooling

audi_boy_racer · 08-15-2003, 07:56 PM

Hey guys,

Not sure if anyone has done this before, prob have but anyway. What i was thinking of doing is chucking the computer into the fridge (excluding the case, im going to make the fridge the case). I was just wondering if its alright to do this, due to condensation or maybe other problems:shrug:

If not i might just do it like this:

http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=222882[/url]

or this:

http://www.overclockers.com/tips1043/[/url] [url]

Thanks

sevisehda · 08-15-2003, 08:47 PM

The trick is finding a fridge that can remove more heat than your system produces. If the compressor isn't strong enough to remove all the heat than the fridge will actually insulate your computer and the temps will go very high.

starbuck3733t · 08-15-2003, 09:58 PM

also, the refrigerator's compressor is not made to do 100% duty cycle (constant running) with the heat from your machine, it would probably only be a matter of time until you burnt the compressor up.

BrianW · 08-15-2003, 10:03 PM

You can actually break a fridge by putting a large pot of hot food into it.

BrianW

audi_boy_racer · 08-16-2003, 12:48 AM

o ok, what do u guys think about the other 2 ideas about putting the heat extractor into the water.

BrianW · 08-16-2003, 12:54 AM

What is your goal? What do you want to do with your computer? A chiller is a good idea, although you will have to do a great deal of insulation.

BrianW

audi_boy_racer · 08-16-2003, 06:30 AM

I want what most people want, a quite computer. but i also want it to be quite cold for overclocking, and i wanna be different.

TallTxnMo · 08-16-2003, 10:07 AM

Is a O/C computer going to put enough heat out to overwhelm a fridge? And it's going to be a gradual increase in heat, not like putting a pot of boiling hot water straight in.

BrianW · 08-16-2003, 10:22 AM

It is a constant heat source. That is not what fridge compressors arew built for. Most compressor based systems are far from quiet. How loud is your fridge when it cycles on?

BrianW

audi_boy_racer · 08-16-2003, 05:52 PM

Its actually really quite, way quiter than the computer. When the computers in the fridge i am going to have a fan on the CPU (if that would help)

Zhentar · 08-16-2003, 06:02 PM

That would just make it worse, actually. Then, the fridge has to cool not only the heat of the CPU, but its got all that air warming up the water too.

hydrogen18 · 08-16-2003, 07:24 PM

if the firdge had a larger condensor(Think thats the hot part, too lazy to check) it'd work fine, unfortunately it doesnt, so dont even try it

BrianW · 08-16-2003, 08:31 PM

You need to learn all you can baout phase change cooling. Then figure out your heat loads, and find out what size compressor and condenser you need.

BrianW

airspirit · 08-16-2003, 10:14 PM

Er, you could also try to follow the instructions for tearing down a dehumidifier that someone or other posted a while back. That was one KILLER step-by-step walkthrough on how to do it. Fridges are bad to use for cooling, though if you happen to have a massive deep-freezer, you may have something to work with ....

Solarian League · 08-17-2003, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by airspirit
Er, you could also try to follow the instructions for tearing down a dehumidifier that someone or other posted a while back. That was one KILLER step-by-step walkthrough on how to do it. Fridges are bad to use for cooling, though if you happen to have a massive deep-freezer, you may have something to work with ....

quotation on the size?

i got this old huge deep freezer that is about 7 feet long, and about 3-4 feet wide, about 3 feet deep. would that work?

not going to use it but someday i might try some sort of freezer mod heh

airspirit · 08-17-2003, 01:05 AM

Stick a 5gal bucket of coolant inside of there and find a way to rig the hoses through the wall of it and you'll have a VERY nice chilled system without risking damage to your freezer. You'll probably have to use an alcohol variant or heavy antifreeze in order to keep it from freezing up, and you'll need to be careful of the condensation. That would be one kickass setup.

Solarian League · 08-17-2003, 02:41 AM

hah, i might actualy give that a shot

only problem is its amost full with food but i might be able to shove some of the food over for a bucket of water =)

audi_boy_racer · 08-17-2003, 03:02 AM

ok so the computer in fridge wasnt a good idea. what about the other two ideas. And also airspirit do u have a link u could give me to that dehumidifier.

thanks guys

08-15-2003, 07:56 PM	#1
audi_boy_racer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: new zealand Posts: 24	Fridge Cooling Hey guys, Not sure if anyone has done this before, prob have but anyway. What i was thinking of doing is chucking the computer into the fridge (excluding the case, im going to make the fridge the case). I was just wondering if its alright to do this, due to condensation or maybe other problems:shrug: If not i might just do it like this: http://forum.oc-forums.com/vb/showth...hreadid=222882[/url] or this: http://www.overclockers.com/tips1043/[/url] [url] Thanks

08-15-2003, 09:58 PM	#3
starbuck3733t Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: State College, PA Posts: 338	also, the refrigerator's compressor is not made to do 100% duty cycle (constant running) with the heat from your machine, it would probably only be a matter of time until you burnt the compressor up. __________________ Goliath: 3.4E@3.91/Abit IC7, Maze4 (temporarily) + custom splitter to crazy 4-way watercooling parallel loop: X800XT @ 520/1280 + AC Twinplex, AC Twinplex Northbridge, Silenstar Dual HDD Cooler, Eheim1250, '85 econoline van HC + 2x120, 1x120 exhaust - polished aluminum frame panaflo L1As, 2x18GB 10K RPM U160 SCSI, 4GB PC4000. I wanna be BladeRunner when I grow up! Project Goliath - nearing completion.

08-15-2003, 10:03 PM	#4
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	You can actually break a fridge by putting a large pot of hot food into it. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-16-2003, 12:54 AM	#6
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	What is your goal? What do you want to do with your computer? A chiller is a good idea, although you will have to do a great deal of insulation. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-16-2003, 10:22 AM	#9
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	It is a constant heat source. That is not what fridge compressors arew built for. Most compressor based systems are far from quiet. How loud is your fridge when it cycles on? BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-15-2003, 08:47 PM	#2
sevisehda Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Posts: 234	The trick is finding a fridge that can remove more heat than your system produces. If the compressor isn't strong enough to remove all the heat than the fridge will actually insulate your computer and the temps will go very high.

08-16-2003, 12:48 AM	#5
audi_boy_racer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: new zealand Posts: 24	o ok, what do u guys think about the other 2 ideas about putting the heat extractor into the water.

08-16-2003, 06:30 AM	#7
audi_boy_racer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: new zealand Posts: 24	I want what most people want, a quite computer. but i also want it to be quite cold for overclocking, and i wanna be different.

08-16-2003, 10:07 AM	#8
TallTxnMo Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Missouri Posts: 35	Is a O/C computer going to put enough heat out to overwhelm a fridge? And it's going to be a gradual increase in heat, not like putting a pot of boiling hot water straight in.

08-16-2003, 05:52 PM	#10
audi_boy_racer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: new zealand Posts: 24	Its actually really quite, way quiter than the computer. When the computers in the fridge i am going to have a fan on the CPU (if that would help)

08-16-2003, 06:02 PM	#11
Zhentar Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 225	That would just make it worse, actually. Then, the fridge has to cool not only the heat of the CPU, but its got all that air warming up the water too.

08-16-2003, 07:24 PM	#12
hydrogen18 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 248	if the firdge had a larger condensor(Think thats the hot part, too lazy to check) it'd work fine, unfortunately it doesnt, so dont even try it

08-16-2003, 08:31 PM	#13
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	You need to learn all you can baout phase change cooling. Then figure out your heat loads, and find out what size compressor and condenser you need. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-16-2003, 10:14 PM	#14
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	Er, you could also try to follow the instructions for tearing down a dehumidifier that someone or other posted a while back. That was one KILLER step-by-step walkthrough on how to do it. Fridges are bad to use for cooling, though if you happen to have a massive deep-freezer, you may have something to work with .... __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

08-17-2003, 01:05 AM	#16
airspirit Been /.'d... have you? Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Moscow, ID Posts: 1,986	Stick a 5gal bucket of coolant inside of there and find a way to rig the hoses through the wall of it and you'll have a VERY nice chilled system without risking damage to your freezer. You'll probably have to use an alcohol variant or heavy antifreeze in order to keep it from freezing up, and you'll need to be careful of the condensation. That would be one kickass setup. __________________ #!/bin/sh {who;} {last;} {pause;} {grep;} {touch;} {unzip;} mount /dev/girl -t {wet;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} {fsck;} echo yes yes yes {yes;} umount {/dev/girl;zip;} rm -rf {wet.spot;} {sleep;} finger: permission denied

08-17-2003, 02:41 AM	#17
Solarian League Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Solarian League Posts: 66	hah, i might actualy give that a shot only problem is its amost full with food but i might be able to shove some of the food over for a bucket of water =)

08-17-2003, 03:02 AM	#18
audi_boy_racer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: new zealand Posts: 24	ok so the computer in fridge wasnt a good idea. what about the other two ideas. And also airspirit do u have a link u could give me to that dehumidifier. thanks guys

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