Any Iwaki owners?

b5i8 · 08-26-2003, 11:43 PM

I just bought myself a Iwaki MD-20RLT over at AquariumPros and I was wondering whether this thing comes with a power cord and plug. Sounds like a stupid question, but in all the pictures and descriptions I've read, I see nothing mentioned. By the way this will be going together with a Scoop V2.0/XLR120 and a Cascade SS in case any of you are wondering. I can't wait

! Also looking to buy a NB block and a vid card block but I guess I can wait for a Hydra.

BrianW · 08-26-2003, 11:55 PM

I have it's little brother. Came with cord and no plug.

BrianW

b5i8 · 08-26-2003, 11:58 PM

So if it has no plug, how do u power the darn thing?

sn_85 · 08-27-2003, 12:11 AM

prolly just get a corded plug from something u dont use or at an electronics and cut it, splice the wires, and solder them together. or use electrical tape if dont wanna bother with soldering, not the best option but its easy.

BrianW · 08-27-2003, 12:13 AM

Power it with a relay, which requires bare wires anyway.

BrianW

b5i8 · 08-27-2003, 12:14 AM

I suppose I could always get one of these:

Think it's strong enough to power my new pump?

BrianW · 08-27-2003, 12:16 AM

Several security issues with that model. I would not use it. The ground is not grounded. If you look at the back of the board there is no trace for the earth wire. Just buy a 12vdc 115vac solid state relay, and wire it up. Canabilize the plug from an old powersupply and mount it in the back of your case. Then you could use a regular pc power cord for it.

BrianW

b5i8 · 08-27-2003, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrianW
Just buy a 12vdc 115vac solid state relay, and wire it up.

I have no clue what that is :shrug:.

BrianW · 08-27-2003, 12:34 AM

Goto Radioshack, and look for this part: 10-Amp SPDT Mini Relay. Hope it helps.

BrianW

b5i8 · 08-27-2003, 12:46 AM

I suppose I could just use this then.

BrianW · 08-27-2003, 01:20 AM

That would work. I would wrap that board in heatshrink though. Or make sure you insulate it well. Do not want to mess around with 110vac....

BrianW

nikhsub1 · 08-27-2003, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by b5i8

I suppose I could just use this then.

That is exactly the one I use for my MD-15R. works great.

BO(V)BZ · 08-27-2003, 03:36 PM

Don't be afraid to make your own. I did it, not really knowing what I was up to, and it worked fine, and only took me a half hour. I bought the aforementioned relay, a big piece of perfboard, some wire, and one of those wire-grabby things [don't know the name, you find them on the back of stereo receivers to hold the speaker wires in place] and soldered that all together. Then, I just stuck a molex connector to the 12V coil and that's it. The clips also make it really easy to set up and use too.

BO(V)BZ

PS: If I get a digital camera, I'll take some pics of my relay.

CoolROD · 08-27-2003, 09:26 PM

You could use the PCI relay card you mentioned earlier and pick up an earth ground from anywhere in your metal case if you really need it. Does the pump cord even have three wires? Do the Iwakis have exposed metal?

edit: I am also looking at an Iwaki for my rig...

CoolROD · 08-27-2003, 09:30 PM

It is really better to pick a common ground point in the case to tie all of your grounds to -and have the three wire cord ground there too. This is better than multiple cords where each has it's own ground conductor b/c this can introduce ground loop circuit paths (though this is usually not a problem).

b5i8 · 08-27-2003, 11:42 PM

I'll decide what to do when my pump gets here. Should probably be here early next week or late this week.

Turbokeu · 08-28-2003, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrianW
TDo not want to mess around with 110vac....

BrianW

- Off the topic -
LOL... Years ago (since more than 30 years now we went to 220VAC in Europe) I used to accidently touch 110VAC. It was painfull but I survived...
I also accidently touched several times 220VAC since then, I can assure you, your arm is useless for a couple of hours...

CD

BrianW · 08-28-2003, 10:19 PM

We have 220 here as well, for washing machines and such, been shocked by that, and I was not a happy camper. Arm was not useless, but felt wierd as hell....

BrianW

Since87 · 08-28-2003, 11:34 PM

Hah, 220 just tingles.

I've had the pleasure of 480VAC from hand to hand. (And scars on both hands to show for it.) Nothing quite like realizing; "I can't let go. I can't yell. I'm going to die." Fortunately I was standing up, and fell away from the piece of equipment I was working on.

But yeah, 220V and 110V can kill you. Don't mess with it unless you know what you are doing.

bigben2k · 08-28-2003, 11:44 PM

You're quite lucky to have survived that... Did it happen in 1987 by any chance? (hence, Since87?!?)

Since87 · 08-28-2003, 11:59 PM

No, 87 was when I first overclocked a computer. The electrocution was about five years ago.

cristoff · 08-29-2003, 09:30 AM

I've been shocked quite a few times by quite a few things..

First when I was a little tyke I was pulling a plug outta the wall to move the lamp. And I didnt just pull the plug but left my hand there a little bit. I wasnt looking obviously and touched both positive and negative prongs on the household current in America... Either the lights blinked or my eyes got lite up lol..

Second time I had the stupid idea of when I was a little older to stick a flat head screw driver in a wall socket "just to see what it would do"... Whole half of the house went off... And i got quite a buss from that...

Third time I was outside with my father and he was messing with his lawn mower. Messing as in trying to figure out why his mower wouldnt work when it just did a week ago. So he told me to hold a wire for him. And he yanked the stupid pull cord and man did that shock me one. Never do that again.

A couple of other times too can't remember. But I do remember the feeling. Like "whoa"... hehe....

My dad got hit by a 220V from a wall panel... he was switching it off and it arched from his hand to his head... he was in the hospital for about 3 days...

bigben2k · 08-29-2003, 12:25 PM

I remember "playing" with an outlet, when I was 8: I blew a breaker, but didn't get shocked.

Otherwise, I've zapped myself a few times, in my teenage years, toying with AC motors. Nothing significant.

I've burnt myself with a soldering iron a few times, and occasionally still do.

t00lb0x · 08-29-2003, 01:18 PM

I was playing with a disposable camera and was taking it apart. And shocked myself on the bulb or whatever. I don't know how much that is, but my finger turned brown for a few days. I was pissed too

. How would one of those relays be set up. Just plug in a molex connector and then just plug in the green + brown wires onto the plug. And then the black wire from the relay goes onto the socket. Then the black wire from the pump goes into the relay?

nikhsub1 · 08-29-2003, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by t00lb0x
I was playing with a disposable camera and was taking it apart. And shocked myself on the bulb or whatever. I don't know how much that is, but my finger turned brown for a few days. I was pissed too .

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-26-2003, 11:43 PM	#1
b5i8 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 6	Any Iwaki owners? I just bought myself a Iwaki MD-20RLT over at AquariumPros and I was wondering whether this thing comes with a power cord and plug. Sounds like a stupid question, but in all the pictures and descriptions I've read, I see nothing mentioned. By the way this will be going together with a Scoop V2.0/XLR120 and a Cascade SS in case any of you are wondering. I can't wait ! Also looking to buy a NB block and a vid card block but I guess I can wait for a Hydra. __________________ NEC FE950+ Lian Li PC-71 Antec TP480 Abit NF7-S V2.0 Athlon XP 2100+ AIUHB 0250 Thermalright SLK-800 2x256MB Corsair XMS 3500C2PT MSI Geforce4 TI4600 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz WD 360GD LiteOn LTR-48125W LiteOn LTD-163 Logitech Z-560

08-26-2003, 11:55 PM	#2
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	I have it's little brother. Came with cord and no plug. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-26-2003, 11:58 PM	#3
b5i8 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 6	So if it has no plug, how do u power the darn thing? __________________ NEC FE950+ Lian Li PC-71 Antec TP480 Abit NF7-S V2.0 Athlon XP 2100+ AIUHB 0250 Thermalright SLK-800 2x256MB Corsair XMS 3500C2PT MSI Geforce4 TI4600 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz WD 360GD LiteOn LTR-48125W LiteOn LTD-163 Logitech Z-560

08-27-2003, 12:13 AM	#5
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Power it with a relay, which requires bare wires anyway. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-27-2003, 12:14 AM	#6
b5i8 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 6	I suppose I could always get one of these: Think it's strong enough to power my new pump? __________________ NEC FE950+ Lian Li PC-71 Antec TP480 Abit NF7-S V2.0 Athlon XP 2100+ AIUHB 0250 Thermalright SLK-800 2x256MB Corsair XMS 3500C2PT MSI Geforce4 TI4600 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz WD 360GD LiteOn LTR-48125W LiteOn LTD-163 Logitech Z-560

08-27-2003, 12:11 AM	#4
sn_85 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: H-town, TX Posts: 122	prolly just get a corded plug from something u dont use or at an electronics and cut it, splice the wires, and solder them together. or use electrical tape if dont wanna bother with soldering, not the best option but its easy.

08-27-2003, 12:16 AM	#7
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Several security issues with that model. I would not use it. The ground is not grounded. If you look at the back of the board there is no trace for the earth wire. Just buy a 12vdc 115vac solid state relay, and wire it up. Canabilize the plug from an old powersupply and mount it in the back of your case. Then you could use a regular pc power cord for it. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-27-2003, 12:34 AM	#9
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Goto Radioshack, and look for this part: 10-Amp SPDT Mini Relay. Hope it helps. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-27-2003, 12:46 AM	#10
b5i8 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 6	I suppose I could just use this then. __________________ NEC FE950+ Lian Li PC-71 Antec TP480 Abit NF7-S V2.0 Athlon XP 2100+ AIUHB 0250 Thermalright SLK-800 2x256MB Corsair XMS 3500C2PT MSI Geforce4 TI4600 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz WD 360GD LiteOn LTR-48125W LiteOn LTD-163 Logitech Z-560

08-27-2003, 01:20 AM	#11
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	That would work. I would wrap that board in heatshrink though. Or make sure you insulate it well. Do not want to mess around with 110vac.... BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-27-2003, 03:36 PM	#13
BO(V)BZ Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: WI Posts: 53	Don't be afraid to make your own. I did it, not really knowing what I was up to, and it worked fine, and only took me a half hour. I bought the aforementioned relay, a big piece of perfboard, some wire, and one of those wire-grabby things [don't know the name, you find them on the back of stereo receivers to hold the speaker wires in place] and soldered that all together. Then, I just stuck a molex connector to the 12V coil and that's it. The clips also make it really easy to set up and use too. BO(V)BZ PS: If I get a digital camera, I'll take some pics of my relay.

08-27-2003, 09:26 PM	#14
CoolROD Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 225	You could use the PCI relay card you mentioned earlier and pick up an earth ground from anywhere in your metal case if you really need it. Does the pump cord even have three wires? Do the Iwakis have exposed metal? edit: I am also looking at an Iwaki for my rig... __________________ Jack of all Trades, Master of None. Last edited by CoolROD; 08-27-2003 at 09:32 PM.

08-27-2003, 09:30 PM	#15
CoolROD Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: North Carolina, USA Posts: 225	It is really better to pick a common ground point in the case to tie all of your grounds to -and have the three wire cord ground there too. This is better than multiple cords where each has it's own ground conductor b/c this can introduce ground loop circuit paths (though this is usually not a problem). __________________ Jack of all Trades, Master of None.

08-27-2003, 11:42 PM	#16
b5i8 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 6	I'll decide what to do when my pump gets here. Should probably be here early next week or late this week. __________________ NEC FE950+ Lian Li PC-71 Antec TP480 Abit NF7-S V2.0 Athlon XP 2100+ AIUHB 0250 Thermalright SLK-800 2x256MB Corsair XMS 3500C2PT MSI Geforce4 TI4600 Turtle Beach Santa Cruz WD 360GD LiteOn LTR-48125W LiteOn LTD-163 Logitech Z-560

08-28-2003, 10:19 PM	#18
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	We have 220 here as well, for washing machines and such, been shocked by that, and I was not a happy camper. Arm was not useless, but felt wierd as hell.... BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

08-28-2003, 11:34 PM	#19
Since87 Pro/Guru - Uber Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 834	Hah, 220 just tingles. I've had the pleasure of 480VAC from hand to hand. (And scars on both hands to show for it.) Nothing quite like realizing; "I can't let go. I can't yell. I'm going to die." Fortunately I was standing up, and fell away from the piece of equipment I was working on. But yeah, 220V and 110V can kill you. Don't mess with it unless you know what you are doing.

08-28-2003, 11:44 PM	#20
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	You're quite lucky to have survived that... Did it happen in 1987 by any chance? (hence, Since87?!?) __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

08-28-2003, 11:59 PM	#21
Since87 Pro/Guru - Uber Mod Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 834	No, 87 was when I first overclocked a computer. The electrocution was about five years ago.

08-29-2003, 09:30 AM	#22
cristoff Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mass Posts: 185	I've been shocked quite a few times by quite a few things.. First when I was a little tyke I was pulling a plug outta the wall to move the lamp. And I didnt just pull the plug but left my hand there a little bit. I wasnt looking obviously and touched both positive and negative prongs on the household current in America... Either the lights blinked or my eyes got lite up lol.. Second time I had the stupid idea of when I was a little older to stick a flat head screw driver in a wall socket "just to see what it would do"... Whole half of the house went off... And i got quite a buss from that... Third time I was outside with my father and he was messing with his lawn mower. Messing as in trying to figure out why his mower wouldnt work when it just did a week ago. So he told me to hold a wire for him. And he yanked the stupid pull cord and man did that shock me one. Never do that again. A couple of other times too can't remember. But I do remember the feeling. Like "whoa"... hehe.... My dad got hit by a 220V from a wall panel... he was switching it off and it arched from his hand to his head... he was in the hospital for about 3 days... __________________ fr33t3chi3

08-29-2003, 12:25 PM	#23
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I remember "playing" with an outlet, when I was 8: I blew a breaker, but didn't get shocked. Otherwise, I've zapped myself a few times, in my teenage years, toying with AC motors. Nothing significant. I've burnt myself with a soldering iron a few times, and occasionally still do. __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

08-29-2003, 01:18 PM	#24
t00lb0x Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: In a box Posts: 221	I was playing with a disposable camera and was taking it apart. And shocked myself on the bulb or whatever. I don't know how much that is, but my finger turned brown for a few days. I was pissed too . How would one of those relays be set up. Just plug in a molex connector and then just plug in the green + brown wires onto the plug. And then the black wire from the relay goes onto the socket. Then the black wire from the pump goes into the relay? __________________ "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit" Last edited by t00lb0x; 08-29-2003 at 01:34 PM.

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