Had a silly little idea...

ndtinker · 09-22-2003, 02:56 PM

It's probably silly, but I was just thinking about it and figured I'd ask.

Couldn't you use your case itself as a big heatsink in a watercooling loop? Such as attaching a block, or building a larger block for more surface area, to say the top or side panel? Wouldn't it add some sort of cooling? Or would the metal just warm up to the temp of the water and become useless, or am I just nuts?

Or would simply adding a 2nd radiator be easier and more effective?

I think I read that you could add as many radiators into a loop as you wanted, but it wouldn't make a bit of difference if the air flowing through it wasn't any cooler, or if the 1st rad was still being effective and still had headroom. Or something like that...

pelle76 · 09-22-2003, 04:12 PM

I would go for another rad...

If the water passing the rad is warmer than the air being blown through the rad... Then the rad will conduct some heat from the water into the air, thus adding performance to your watercooling system...

Phant0m51 · 09-22-2003, 05:53 PM

They actually sell cases that you connect heatpipes to, to cool your entire computer. They look just like a huge heatsink. Pricing runs anywhere from $1,000 to $3,000. They work, but they are way too damn expensive for my tastes.

superart · 09-22-2003, 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by Phant0m51
They actually sell cases that you connect heatpipes to, to cool your entire computer. They look just like a huge heatsink. Pricing runs anywhere from $1,000 to $3,000. They work, but they are way too damn expensive for my tastes.

so the heatsink-looking cases are there to replace a rad? So in essence, the ase becomes a rad? and this is all fanless?

can you post some linkage pertaining to these overpriced cases?

Boli · 09-22-2003, 09:02 PM

Check on the Zalaman Website... I don't have the link but a good google should reveal it.

~ Boli

superart · 09-22-2003, 09:31 PM

i checked their website, but couldnt find any cases that double as radiators, mostly just hsf products

Jewfro · 09-22-2003, 10:18 PM

I know that german sites have them......basically huge rads that fill up one side of your computer and essentially require no fan. It just looks like a ton of copper tubes going back and forth downwards on the side of the comp.

superart · 09-22-2003, 10:50 PM

do you get descent temps with that?

Boli · 09-23-2003, 12:47 AM

*sigh* now you made me have to look --> link

~ Boli

audi_boy_racer · 09-23-2003, 02:48 AM

I would have to say they look alright, prob wouldnt cool that good its just for the looks

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pelle76 · 09-23-2003, 02:54 AM

That case is silent... But I guess it is no alternative for overclocking

EDIT: I think it would do real nice as a standardPC

superart · 09-23-2003, 02:31 PM

well, it says it can transfer up to 150W/s. That should be enough for a little overclocking.

ndtinker · 09-23-2003, 02:34 PM

Wow. Looks pretty industrial. Probably weighs 300 lbs.

Jewfro · 09-23-2003, 04:58 PM

Mmm.....problem I see is that to me, those heatpipes might not be able to transfer the heat fast enough. Also, since heatpipes are thinks that have to stay connected, how are you supposed to install a new cpu or gpu?

Ewan · 09-29-2003, 06:17 AM

Heat pipes transfer crap loads of heat realy quickly. The limitation is whether the surface area of the heatsink is enough. I'd say it would be. The case is black porbably to improve heat loss (from radiation).

For fun you could blow at the case with an office fan.

09-22-2003, 02:56 PM	#1
ndtinker Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Medina, TN Posts: 30	Had a silly little idea... It's probably silly, but I was just thinking about it and figured I'd ask. Couldn't you use your case itself as a big heatsink in a watercooling loop? Such as attaching a block, or building a larger block for more surface area, to say the top or side panel? Wouldn't it add some sort of cooling? Or would the metal just warm up to the temp of the water and become useless, or am I just nuts? Or would simply adding a 2nd radiator be easier and more effective? I think I read that you could add as many radiators into a loop as you wanted, but it wouldn't make a bit of difference if the air flowing through it wasn't any cooler, or if the 1st rad was still being effective and still had headroom. Or something like that... __________________ -=:: Deus Ex Machina ::=- Jackson, TN's ONLY LAN Group http://www.jacksongamingleague.com

09-22-2003, 09:02 PM	#5
Boli Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackburn / Dundee Posts: 451	Check on the Zalaman Website... I don't have the link but a good google should reveal it. ~ Boli __________________ 1800+ @ 2247 (214x10.5) - STABLE, 512MB PC3700 TwinX Cosair RAM, NF7-S v2.0, GeForce3 Ti200 Parallel BIM, 120.1 Thermochill, Eheim 1048, Maze 3, Maze4 GPU, "Z" chipset, 1/2" tubing, PC-70: 5x120mm & 9x80mm fans. Internet Server & second machine (folding 24/7): 512MB DDR RAM, XP2000+

09-22-2003, 09:31 PM	#6
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	i checked their website, but couldnt find any cases that double as radiators, mostly just hsf products __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

09-22-2003, 10:50 PM	#8
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	do you get descent temps with that? __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

09-23-2003, 12:47 AM	#9
Boli Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackburn / Dundee Posts: 451	sigh now you made me have to look --> link ~ Boli __________________ 1800+ @ 2247 (214x10.5) - STABLE, 512MB PC3700 TwinX Cosair RAM, NF7-S v2.0, GeForce3 Ti200 Parallel BIM, 120.1 Thermochill, Eheim 1048, Maze 3, Maze4 GPU, "Z" chipset, 1/2" tubing, PC-70: 5x120mm & 9x80mm fans. Internet Server & second machine (folding 24/7): 512MB DDR RAM, XP2000+

09-22-2003, 04:12 PM	#2
pelle76 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sweden, Skovde Posts: 101	I would go for another rad... If the water passing the rad is warmer than the air being blown through the rad... Then the rad will conduct some heat from the water into the air, thus adding performance to your watercooling system...

09-22-2003, 05:53 PM	#3
Phant0m51 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah Posts: 160	They actually sell cases that you connect heatpipes to, to cool your entire computer. They look just like a huge heatsink. Pricing runs anywhere from $1,000 to $3,000. They work, but they are way too damn expensive for my tastes.

09-22-2003, 10:18 PM	#7
Jewfro Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 33	I know that german sites have them......basically huge rads that fill up one side of your computer and essentially require no fan. It just looks like a ton of copper tubes going back and forth downwards on the side of the comp.

09-23-2003, 02:48 AM	#10
audi_boy_racer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: May 2003 Location: new zealand Posts: 24	I would have to say they look alright, prob wouldnt cool that good its just for the looks .

09-23-2003, 02:54 AM	#11
pelle76 Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sweden, Skovde Posts: 101	That case is silent... But I guess it is no alternative for overclocking EDIT: I think it would do real nice as a standardPC

09-23-2003, 02:31 PM	#12
superart Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: FL Posts: 787	well, it says it can transfer up to 150W/s. That should be enough for a little overclocking. __________________ When you do things right, people won't be sure youv'e done anything at all. Looking to buy/trade for used Deep Fryer and Vacume Pack Sealer.

09-23-2003, 02:34 PM	#13
ndtinker Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Medina, TN Posts: 30	Wow. Looks pretty industrial. Probably weighs 300 lbs. __________________ -=:: Deus Ex Machina ::=- Jackson, TN's ONLY LAN Group http://www.jacksongamingleague.com

09-23-2003, 04:58 PM	#14
Jewfro Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 33	Mmm.....problem I see is that to me, those heatpipes might not be able to transfer the heat fast enough. Also, since heatpipes are thinks that have to stay connected, how are you supposed to install a new cpu or gpu?

09-29-2003, 06:17 AM	#15
Ewan Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30	Heat pipes transfer crap loads of heat realy quickly. The limitation is whether the surface area of the heatsink is enough. I'd say it would be. The case is black porbably to improve heat loss (from radiation). For fun you could blow at the case with an office fan.

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