Microsoft moves to take over Colorado

xerka · 09-27-2003, 12:18 AM

Well today at school I found some good and bad news. My teacher informed that the state has made a deal with Microsoft where all the high schools get licenses to Visual Studio .NET. This will be somewhat good because first year students will have an easier time with programming and hopefully stick with the comp sci program. However, I believe this to be a quite bold move. At my high school we usually do java or c++. With this now, my teacher and many others are going to switch to visual studio. This is sort of like cigarette companies starting kids young, so they have people hooked for life.

siavash_s_s · 09-27-2003, 03:08 AM

thats exactly the case. in aus its the same sorta thing. im using vb at school when we would have been using c or c++ which is an entirely better idea. the teachers expect us to learn foxpro excel all microsoft shit when the should be focusing on opensource like java ( i think it is isnt it?) mysql php etc....
now i want to make sometihng im stuck to the shity ways of vb... sucks...

hara · 09-27-2003, 05:58 AM

In my country, microsoft is giving windows xp, office xp and visual studio.net for Lm10 ($26) to students. Something which has to do with microsoft opening a branch here.

Zhentar · 09-27-2003, 11:02 AM

Definatly should be doing java, thats what all the colleges use... I did C++ last year in high school because thats what they did the AP test for, but they're changing that soon.

My school was in colorado, but I don't think our CS teacher would take up .NET.

Grayson · 09-30-2003, 09:38 PM

Am I the only one here old enough to remember when Apple gave I and IIs to elementry schools. I also remember when several coledges included a Heath Kit S100 bus system in the tuitiion.

Grayson the old man

Zhentar · 09-30-2003, 10:18 PM

and look how apple's hooked those gullible losers. My school was constantly upgrading from one shitty form of imac to another.

Back about 6 months ago folding.extremeoverclocking.com listed a full 1000 folding teams on one page. Whenever I tried to view the stats on even their newest 'eMacs' it was hopelessly bogged down. I'd go home to my 14 month old pc that I built for probably $500 and it wouldn't even flinch.

iroc409 · 09-30-2003, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Grayson
Am I the only one here old enough to remember when Apple gave I and IIs to elementry schools. I also remember when several coledges included a Heath Kit S100 bus system in the tuitiion.

Grayson the old man

not sure i remember that, but i started most of my computer exp. on the IIe, at least in school.

that was a lot of logowriter.

m00j · 09-30-2003, 11:57 PM

its the same with cad packages, they give them to schools so that students learn how to use them, so then the companies invest in their AU$10,000 products

at my school we use Delphi. Apparently it is a good learning language.

Grayson · 10-01-2003, 03:41 AM

Delphi is an object version of Pascal. N Wirt wrote Pascal specificly as a teaching lanquage to teach structured programing. It had very rudamentry IO, not meant for production use. But people who learned it liked it so much, they patched it and extended it to turn it into a production tool. NW said no and wrote Modula2 but the horse had already left the barn and the rest is histrory

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09-27-2003, 12:18 AM	#1
xerka Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 107	Microsoft moves to take over Colorado Well today at school I found some good and bad news. My teacher informed that the state has made a deal with Microsoft where all the high schools get licenses to Visual Studio .NET. This will be somewhat good because first year students will have an easier time with programming and hopefully stick with the comp sci program. However, I believe this to be a quite bold move. At my high school we usually do java or c++. With this now, my teacher and many others are going to switch to visual studio. This is sort of like cigarette companies starting kids young, so they have people hooked for life. __________________ Folders: I've given up folding

09-27-2003, 03:08 AM	#2
siavash_s_s Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: here n there Posts: 194	thats exactly the case. in aus its the same sorta thing. im using vb at school when we would have been using c or c++ which is an entirely better idea. the teachers expect us to learn foxpro excel all microsoft shit when the should be focusing on opensource like java ( i think it is isnt it?) mysql php etc.... now i want to make sometihng im stuck to the shity ways of vb... sucks... __________________ buy me a mill

09-27-2003, 05:58 AM	#3
hara Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Malta, Mediterranean Posts: 662	In my country, microsoft is giving windows xp, office xp and visual studio.net for Lm10 ($26) to students. Something which has to do with microsoft opening a branch here. __________________ - Every great HD crash day is the day before back-up day. - My Past System - "Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." - Milton, Paradise Lost. - FMZ

09-27-2003, 11:02 AM	#4
Zhentar Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 225	Definatly should be doing java, thats what all the colleges use... I did C++ last year in high school because thats what they did the AP test for, but they're changing that soon. My school was in colorado, but I don't think our CS teacher would take up .NET.

09-30-2003, 09:38 PM	#5
Grayson Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawai'i Posts: 25	Am I the only one here old enough to remember when Apple gave I and IIs to elementry schools. I also remember when several coledges included a Heath Kit S100 bus system in the tuitiion. Grayson the old man

09-30-2003, 10:18 PM	#6
Zhentar Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 225	and look how apple's hooked those gullible losers. My school was constantly upgrading from one shitty form of imac to another. Back about 6 months ago folding.extremeoverclocking.com listed a full 1000 folding teams on one page. Whenever I tried to view the stats on even their newest 'eMacs' it was hopelessly bogged down. I'd go home to my 14 month old pc that I built for probably $500 and it wouldn't even flinch.

09-30-2003, 11:57 PM	#8
m00j Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sunny BrisVegas Posts: 12	its the same with cad packages, they give them to schools so that students learn how to use them, so then the companies invest in their AU$10,000 products at my school we use Delphi. Apparently it is a good learning language.

10-01-2003, 03:41 AM	#9
Grayson Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawai'i Posts: 25	Delphi is an object version of Pascal. N Wirt wrote Pascal specificly as a teaching lanquage to teach structured programing. It had very rudamentry IO, not meant for production use. But people who learned it liked it so much, they patched it and extended it to turn it into a production tool. NW said no and wrote Modula2 but the horse had already left the barn and the rest is histrory Grayson, the old man (62)

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