Bulding a standalone h2o case

trifler · 10-06-2003, 11:33 AM

Things i have.. a ww block, hydro l30 a heatercore.
No i'm planing on bulding a standalone case cuz i can't fit it all into my antec sonata case. Which is better have the fan suckin the air thru the rad och blowing it thru?
Also should one drain the pump or let it stand self outside the res?

And then to the line. im thinking pump, block, rad, res and then around again.

Could one be able to run both 230v fan and pump on same cord?

How flexible is the silicon hose in general?

I'll post back with some drawings of my plans.

So long.

Boli · 10-06-2003, 12:17 PM

Suck - or pull arrangement for cooling the rad with a fan is better than blow- or push. Thoguh naturally a push-pull arrangement will be even better. Make sure thoguh you draw in cold air from outside the case if possible.

Could one be able to run both 230v fan and pump on same cord?

if you are running straight off the mains then I see no reason why not. If they are BOTH 230v you shoudl be able to wire them in parallel easily enough PROVIDING you insulate it throughrally... mains voltage is enough to kill you.

How flexible is the silicon hose in general?

Changes with heat/age and use - but new you have about a 6" "turning circle" with 1/2" tubing before it starts to kink. You can prevent this by adding springs corner pieces - or something I found out recently hose clamps staggered along the length prevent kinking somewhat.

And then to the line. im thinking pump, block, rad, res and then around again.

Sounds fine to me.

Hope this helps

~ Boli

trifler · 10-06-2003, 03:16 PM

Thank you very much!

Does shrouding the rad help alot?

joemac · 10-06-2003, 03:31 PM

One of my customers sent me a picture of a case that he used as a h2o case. Here is a picture of it. He also went through the trouble of wiring the whole thing using relays.

joemac · 10-06-2003, 03:32 PM

really here it is...

trifler · 10-07-2003, 01:31 AM

Yeah im thinking something alike only a little more stylish.. 8)
Im going to build mine like a little bench to have my case ontop of it. I'll be starting to make some cads ofcoures in 3d.. 8) ill be back..

joemac · 10-07-2003, 02:32 AM

Ok I will wait here then

Haggis · 10-07-2003, 02:56 AM

Is this more the setup you are thinking of.
I could put the box under my case but I wanted the res as high in the system as I could get it.

Haggis · 10-07-2003, 03:01 AM

Is this more the setup you are thinking of.
I could put the box under my case but I wanted the res as high in the system as I could get it.

trifler · 10-07-2003, 08:27 AM

Haggis.

Yes thats more like it it looks very nice from that angle you've got more pictrues?
Hmm now you made me think.. Is it better to have the res above the block which you will be supplying with water?

Hehe i found my way around. thanks fo the logic names of the pics.. But still do you have more pics. 8)

Haggis · 10-07-2003, 10:47 AM

Here are some different pics

plan view
res
box side
WB

trifler · 10-07-2003, 01:18 PM

Very nice indeed.. 8) thumbs up..

But what about the placing of the whole thing.. Does putting it higher than the block do any god or not?

Haggis · 10-07-2003, 09:23 PM

Keeping the res as the highest point in the loop should enable any air bubbles to escape and not be trapped in your block or radiator. That's the theory anyway

winewood · 10-07-2003, 10:21 PM

You need to put some rubber grommets for that tubing. It would look totally professional. Pick some up... I used them on my external radiator when I ran my tubing in.

http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=8117
3rd pic down. The unit looks like barf, but I HAD to test it before I painted it.

trifler · 10-08-2003, 05:52 AM

ahh bubbles someone got any god solution for an airtrap? i still want to put my h2o case beneith my computor.

Haggis · 10-08-2003, 11:46 AM

I had no luck finding 1" grommets around these parts Winewood.
I'm still looking though

Trifler, there are lots of air-trap threads here. Start looking here

trifler · 10-08-2003, 12:58 PM

damn a functional airtrap would be like a chimeny on my h2o case that will be a little bit unstylish. Hmm troubelning.. 8)

Well ive decided to go with a closed system an airtrap hurts the estetics to much.

trifler · 10-15-2003, 08:18 AM

i've made a fanduct fo the 3d-model :P
It will take a will to do the rest because im not so good at this.. 8)

http://www.theforumisdown.com/upload...03/fanduct.jpg

trifler · 11-07-2003, 04:21 PM

so now i've recived all my stuff and almost finished the cads (since i making it at as a school project i need to do that) the only thing that i miss is a res. I'll see what i can pick up next week. But i'm looking for something like the one i made.

http://trifler.dyndns.org/water

use ie and install edrawings to look at the files. They are very big but very nice to look at. since you can "play" with them.

ps the files are big 250 and 400kb so be patient

BrianW · 11-07-2003, 09:56 PM

No thank you. Just post a jpg....

Brian

trifler · 11-08-2003, 02:23 AM

put then you can't take it apart

well then i just have to cough up some jpegs.

trifler · 11-08-2003, 07:51 PM

the ww-block :

the case in different angels:

as i said before the res is just an idea i'll look for a "real" on and edit the cad.

TerraMex · 11-08-2003, 08:19 PM

just one i've seen : linky

trifler · 11-09-2003, 05:38 AM

quite nice its just one propblem for me i have an natec sonata and that front isen't so easy to follow up.

http://www.antec-inc.com/images/400/...view_final.jpg

Dunno · 11-09-2003, 10:30 AM

Here is a link to my quick and dirty Web Site which might give you some ideas.

I am in South Africa where WC hardware is only now becoming available, so everything is home-made.

10-06-2003, 11:33 AM	#1
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	Bulding a standalone h2o case Things i have.. a ww block, hydro l30 a heatercore. No i'm planing on bulding a standalone case cuz i can't fit it all into my antec sonata case. Which is better have the fan suckin the air thru the rad och blowing it thru? Also should one drain the pump or let it stand self outside the res? And then to the line. im thinking pump, block, rad, res and then around again. Could one be able to run both 230v fan and pump on same cord? How flexible is the silicon hose in general? I'll post back with some drawings of my plans. So long. __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

10-06-2003, 12:17 PM	#2
Boli Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackburn / Dundee Posts: 451	Suck - or pull arrangement for cooling the rad with a fan is better than blow- or push. Thoguh naturally a push-pull arrangement will be even better. Make sure thoguh you draw in cold air from outside the case if possible. Could one be able to run both 230v fan and pump on same cord? if you are running straight off the mains then I see no reason why not. If they are BOTH 230v you shoudl be able to wire them in parallel easily enough PROVIDING you insulate it throughrally... mains voltage is enough to kill you. How flexible is the silicon hose in general? Changes with heat/age and use - but new you have about a 6" "turning circle" with 1/2" tubing before it starts to kink. You can prevent this by adding springs corner pieces - or something I found out recently hose clamps staggered along the length prevent kinking somewhat. And then to the line. im thinking pump, block, rad, res and then around again. Sounds fine to me. Hope this helps ~ Boli __________________ 1800+ @ 2247 (214x10.5) - STABLE, 512MB PC3700 TwinX Cosair RAM, NF7-S v2.0, GeForce3 Ti200 Parallel BIM, 120.1 Thermochill, Eheim 1048, Maze 3, Maze4 GPU, "Z" chipset, 1/2" tubing, PC-70: 5x120mm & 9x80mm fans. Internet Server & second machine (folding 24/7): 512MB DDR RAM, XP2000+

10-06-2003, 03:16 PM	#3
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	Thank you very much! Does shrouding the rad help alot? __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

10-06-2003, 03:31 PM	#4
joemac Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 339	One of my customers sent me a picture of a case that he used as a h2o case. Here is a picture of it. He also went through the trouble of wiring the whole thing using relays. __________________ www.aquajoe.com

10-07-2003, 01:31 AM	#6
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	Yeah im thinking something alike only a little more stylish.. 8) Im going to build mine like a little bench to have my case ontop of it. I'll be starting to make some cads ofcoures in 3d.. 8) ill be back.. __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

10-07-2003, 02:32 AM	#7
joemac Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 339	Ok I will wait here then __________________ www.aquajoe.com

10-07-2003, 02:56 AM	#8
Haggis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 9	Is this more the setup you are thinking of. I could put the box under my case but I wanted the res as high in the system as I could get it. Last edited by Haggis; 10-07-2003 at 10:32 AM.

10-07-2003, 03:01 AM	#9
Haggis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 9	Is this more the setup you are thinking of. I could put the box under my case but I wanted the res as high in the system as I could get it. Last edited by Haggis; 10-07-2003 at 10:32 AM.

10-07-2003, 08:27 AM	#10
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	Haggis. Yes thats more like it it looks very nice from that angle you've got more pictrues? Hmm now you made me think.. Is it better to have the res above the block which you will be supplying with water? Hehe i found my way around. thanks fo the logic names of the pics.. But still do you have more pics. 8) __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

10-07-2003, 10:47 AM	#11
Haggis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 9	Here are some different pics plan view res box side WB

10-07-2003, 01:18 PM	#12
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	Very nice indeed.. 8) thumbs up.. But what about the placing of the whole thing.. Does putting it higher than the block do any god or not? __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

10-07-2003, 09:23 PM	#13
Haggis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 9	Keeping the res as the highest point in the loop should enable any air bubbles to escape and not be trapped in your block or radiator. That's the theory anyway

10-07-2003, 10:21 PM	#14
winewood Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: in my chair Posts: 574	You need to put some rubber grommets for that tubing. It would look totally professional. Pick some up... I used them on my external radiator when I ran my tubing in. http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=8117 3rd pic down. The unit looks like barf, but I HAD to test it before I painted it. __________________ -winewood-

10-08-2003, 05:52 AM	#15
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	ahh bubbles someone got any god solution for an airtrap? i still want to put my h2o case beneith my computor. __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

10-08-2003, 11:46 AM	#16
Haggis Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 9	I had no luck finding 1" grommets around these parts Winewood. I'm still looking though Trifler, there are lots of air-trap threads here. Start looking here

10-08-2003, 12:58 PM	#17
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	damn a functional airtrap would be like a chimeny on my h2o case that will be a little bit unstylish. Hmm troubelning.. 8) Well ive decided to go with a closed system an airtrap hurts the estetics to much. __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\| Last edited by trifler; 10-08-2003 at 03:53 PM.

10-15-2003, 08:18 AM	#18
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	i've made a fanduct fo the 3d-model :P It will take a will to do the rest because im not so good at this.. 8) http://www.theforumisdown.com/upload...03/fanduct.jpg __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

11-07-2003, 04:21 PM	#19
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	so now i've recived all my stuff and almost finished the cads (since i making it at as a school project i need to do that) the only thing that i miss is a res. I'll see what i can pick up next week. But i'm looking for something like the one i made. http://trifler.dyndns.org/water use ie and install edrawings to look at the files. They are very big but very nice to look at. since you can "play" with them. ps the files are big 250 and 400kb so be patient __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

11-07-2003, 09:56 PM	#20
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	No thank you. Just post a jpg.... Brian __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

11-08-2003, 02:23 AM	#21
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	put then you can't take it apart well then i just have to cough up some jpegs. __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

11-08-2003, 07:51 PM	#22
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	the ww-block : the case in different angels: as i said before the res is just an idea i'll look for a "real" on and edit the cad. __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\| Last edited by trifler; 11-09-2003 at 09:10 AM.

11-08-2003, 08:19 PM	#23
TerraMex Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal, Europe Posts: 870	just one i've seen : linky __________________ "we need more cowbell."

11-09-2003, 05:38 AM	#24
trifler Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Älmhult, Sweden Posts: 27	quite nice its just one propblem for me i have an natec sonata and that front isen't so easy to follow up. http://www.antec-inc.com/images/400/...view_final.jpg __________________ Dator: Drevad för att klara branta backar. §)__\,__\|

11-09-2003, 10:30 AM	#25
Dunno Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Africa Posts: 82	Here is a link to my quick and dirty Web Site which might give you some ideas. I am in South Africa where WC hardware is only now becoming available, so everything is home-made.

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