Swiftech and Danger Den reservoirs? WTF?

[dima y]

Compare this:
http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCRES-525.asp
and this:
http://www.dangerden.com/mall2/more_...asp?fmmore=245

then tell me:

A) who copied who?
B) how can swiftech patent it?

[pHaestus]

It's probably made by Laing for Swiftech. No different from the MCP650/D4 pumps

[BalefireX]

Looks good, certainly not the prettiest solution but then again it's not in a particularly visible place. Maybe this will help with those reviewers who cannot operate a fill/bleed system correctly.

[BillA]

Originally Posted by BalefireX

Looks good, certainly not the prettiest solution but then again it's not in a particularly visible place. Maybe this will help with those reviewers who cannot operate a fill/bleed system correctly.

lol

think on it guys, a common source ??
but Swiftech is a 'co-holder' of the applied for patent,
'cause you-know-who was involved in its design (call me anti-bling)

dig around, its on OCers some time back

[threeputt]

I remember seeing this... Coolingworks is the manufacturer I think...


edit:
link
So, you had a hand in designing in this huh? Cool... I hated the bay res...especially after it cracked... Another problem w/ acrylic bay res was that you can't take the cooling system out of the case because acrylic bayres only goes in and out through the front Looks like this one can be pull out through the back

edit:edit:
ocforum link

Looks like Swiftech, Dtek and Dangerden are all selling them...

[BalefireX]

The time old problem: cheap, effective, pretty... pick two

Unfortunately bling does sell - needs to glow in the dark :P

[threeputt]

It looks like it's designed to be hidden behind the bay cover.

[BillA]

a vertical 'window' could be cut in the drive bay cover to permit seeing the level, and if cut in the right place also that the pump is running;

but there IS a reason to prefer Swiftech, . . . . .

who will pick it up ?

[SysCrusher]

Something about the threaded ports I don't like about the DD one. The Swifty seems to have better threaded ports.

[scooterfl]

Swiftech the only one to offer quick-connects?

[BillA]

no, but possible - different aspect (QC related)

no, not relevant to the res itself

[BalefireX]

What I am trying to puzzle out is the shape - I would have assumed that if Swiftech is adopting the DDC the idea would be to get the entire res/pump assembly inside one 5.25" bay. However, I can't see how this shape would allow for that, maybe I am missing something.

[aaronspink]

Originally Posted by unregistered

a vertical 'window' could be cut in the drive bay cover to permit seeing the level, and if cut in the right place also that the pump is running;

but there IS a reason to prefer Swiftech, . . . . .

who will pick it up ?

Swiftech is the only one with their logo on it?

Or the fact that it looks like the Swiftech version has longer threads?

Pricing looks about the same, except it appear that Swiftech is the only one to offer it without fittings.

[BillA]

I will send a Swiftech bayres to the first who finds the difference, and can explain its function

I will respond to the correct observation
(this is not that easy guys)

[JoeKamel]

Originally Posted by unregistered

I will send a Swiftech bayres to the first who finds the difference, and can explain its function

I will respond to the correct observation
(this is not that easy guys)

The Swiftech uses a black fill cap to prevent it from breaking down due to UV from those pretty lights

Edit: Or, it appears that the swiftech one isn't as tall, which <guess> would help with flowrate </guess> Anywhere close?

[aaronspink]

Originally Posted by unregistered

I will send a Swiftech bayres to the first who finds the difference, and can explain its function

I will respond to the correct observation
(this is not that easy guys)

Well, the only differences that I can find are:

The swiftech version has elongated inlet and outlet ports in comparison to the pictures available at danger den, dtek, and coolingworks. I can only assume that this was intentional and provides a better seal with more of the barb in direct contact with the thread.

The other difference is that swiftech specifically spells out that the fill plug contains an O-ring, but I would assume this is standard.

[9mmCensor]

Originally Posted by unregistered

I will send a Swiftech bayres to the first who finds the difference, and can explain its function

I will respond to the correct observation
(this is not that easy guys)

Is it the lowered output compartment, to help prevent air from feeding into the pump?

[BillA]

all production pieces have the same (longer) thread length
you'll not pick it up from images
- at least not from us

[BillA]

Originally Posted by 9mmCensor

Is it the lowered output compartment, to help prevent air from feeding into the pump?

that's why I'm a co-holder

[gungeek]

The basic coolingworks model uses copper for the threaded inserts on the side where the swiftech one uses brass. Is there much difference in thermal expansion?

EDIT: the Dtek model also lists copper threaded inserts, DD doesn't specify. It may be pre-production vs. production differences, but the threaded inserts themselves look different between swiftech vs. others. Are they molded in when the body is molded or added later?

[scooterfl]

damn gungeek i saw that too..brass used prolly so is less resistant to thread stripping..also better structural support

[gungeek]

Yep, brass is harder than copper and shouldn't strip as easily especially with the fine pitch threads.

[BillA]

guys, from the mfgr they are all the same
then you have post-processing, QC, and accessories

so now you know what to focus on

[gungeek]

swiftech is the only one to offer quick-connects, in fact it comes with no barbs or quick connects, they are all optional. This would allow listing it for a dollar or two cheaper and letting people use their own barbs or purchasing a mix of barb sizes. Say 3/8OD barbs for the inlet and 1/2OD for the outlet to better balance flow resistance when combining loops or using different tubing sizes like swiftech does with the pump fittings vs. the other components.

[SysCrusher]

Well Swiftech sells it for 16.95 and you get all this.

5 1/4" Bay reservoir
1 fill-plug
1 port plug
Mounting screws

DD sells it for 17.95 and you get your choice of 3/8 or 1/2" fittings. I'm assuming it comes with the fill-plug and maybe the mounting screws.

It's cheaper from Swifty.