Intel to have built-in OCing

[BillA]

anyone catch "Foxton" ?
"Foxton, the power adjusting feature, is an advance on a technology called SpeedStep, which is currently used in Intel's notebook chips.

With Foxton, the chip chooses from as many as 64 speed grades, unlike two or three in SpeedStep. Foxton also allows for a 10 percent speed boost under heavy workloads."

http://money.cnn.com/2005/02/07/tech...tel_chip.reut/

Itanium though

[pHaestus]

So we're back to "turbo" buttons now eh

[BillA]

but w/o the buttons
of course I've yet to encounter an Itanium OCer either, though we have made products

[nikhsub1]

FWIW SpeedStep is also used in the new 600 series 2MB L2 P4's... although that will be the first thing I disable in the bios

[BillA]

Scott
Foxton is SpeedStep in reverse, will speed UP 'till temp limit reached
sounds a lot like OCing to me

[pHaestus]

If you wanted a 10% speed increase wouldn't you just install an A64 anyway?

/me waits for Scott to knock on my door with a bat

[BillA]

my ENTIRE perspective on OCing, wait 3mos and get a better chip

[pHaestus]

My history has always been "buy $50 CPU and overclock it to faster than the $400 CPUs. Upgrade every time a new good stepping comes out." This has recently evolved to "Spend $$$ on video card periodically and don't worry about CPU because it's fast enough". This is probably soon to evolve into "Never upgrade PC and run Linux on it for word processing and file serving and internet. Buy a console for the living room for games." Seems to be the direction it's heading anyway.

[BillA]

just another tool,
now if I could get mine to not fail for one thing or another every 6mos

[pHaestus]

You DO have a good backup strategy now, right?

[nikhsub1]

Originally Posted by unregistered

Scott
Foxton is SpeedStep in reverse, will speed UP 'till temp limit reached
sounds a lot like OCing to me

Bill I understood, I was just pointing out that the 6xx series P4's now use SpeedStep as you said:

Originally Posted by unregistered

...SpeedStep, which is currently used in Intel's notebook chips.

That is all, lol.

[BillA]

pH, I think 'my' problem was simply relocated
now my working files are on the server
what backs up the server ?
bleh, an IT challenged co

[nikhsub1]

Aww Bill this is what I worry about on a daily basis... It's what I do, system admin for a health care company, they have 10 hospitals around LA. Don't get me started on HIPAA either. Anyway, what IS your backup strategy? We use Tape drives which are finicky as are the tapes, we are now moving to REV drives, 90GB compressed and able to be used with Veritas Backup. I implore the people responsible for the swapping of media to take the previous days tape home, or some facilities have fireproof safes. We do daily, weekly and monthly backups to tape and to a workstation. Very laborious but has saved my ass a few times, last time was right before we had lunch. If you need help give me a shout.

[BillA]

Gabe is in China next week, I'll restart the battle when he returns
Thanks, I'll be in touch

[MadHacker]

Originally Posted by unregistered

Scott
Foxton is SpeedStep in reverse, will speed UP 'till temp limit reached
sounds a lot like OCing to me

10 percent speed boost under heavy workloads

i would rather have a steady 20-30% overclock...
it would make IE load that much faster

[pHaestus]

Bill:

Universities are even worse for IT budget and maintenance.

I have over $100k annual budget for research - every bit of which is done on PCs whether they control instruments, run models, or simply analyze data and type papers. My IT support infrastructure is my damn self, and I am also the network admin. My initial data management/protection budget was $0, but I had a notebook hdd die out of the blue and lost a month of work and now I try my best. My backup method is a 200GB hdd in an external USB2 box. I drag it from lab instrument to lab instrument (they aren't networked to stop students from installing viruses and wasting time on them) and back up my own notebook 1x a week automatically and every time I finish anything manually. Once a month a DVD-R is burned for archival and stored offsite (my house). Rudimentary but I feel better at least now.

[BillA]

that's a bunch of overhead, I'm thinking the external box is the way to go

[pHaestus]

I guess in theory it's easier to network all the machines, set up accounts with limited functionality, and then automate the backups over the LAN. In practice though this is a lot of time and effort and undoubtedly will lead to compatibility issues between the instrument control software and Windows. So I sneaker network it on afternoons when I'm not feeling productive.

[HammerSandwich]

I'm also leaning to external HD these days. Damned hard to beat the capacity/speed/dollar equation there. And, like Scott, I've had frustrating times with tapes.

[BillA]

and I have a 20yr old car that needs fuel, oil, and tires - period (yea, taxes too)
something is missing with computers

[DryFire]

Originally Posted by unregistered

and I have a 20yr old car that needs fuel, oil, and tires - period (yea, taxes too)
something is missing with computers

never had to buy new spark plugs? timing belt? Brake pads? Do you wash it? Refil washer fluid?


Phateus what field do you work in? My dad's a Civil engineer at the local Uni and they have a rather large IT department.

[BillA]

diesel, wash in the rain

[DryFire]

touché bill.

[starbuck3733t]

Originally Posted by pHaestus

Bill:

Universities are even worse for IT budget and maintenance.

I have over $100k annual budget for research - every bit of which is done on PCs whether they control instruments, run models, or simply analyze data and type papers. My IT support infrastructure is my damn self, and I am also the network admin. My initial data management/protection budget was $0, but I had a notebook hdd die out of the blue and lost a month of work and now I try my best. My backup method is a 200GB hdd in an external USB2 box. I drag it from lab instrument to lab instrument (they aren't networked to stop students from installing viruses and wasting time on them) and back up my own notebook 1x a week automatically and every time I finish anything manually. Once a month a DVD-R is burned for archival and stored offsite (my house). Rudimentary but I feel better at least now.

My job is in educational research too - where do you do yours?. I work for penn state university, materials research institute. I'll give you one guess as to what we research

[pHaestus]

I am at the University of Saskatchewan in Saskatoon, SK Canada. My position is classified as "environmental soil chemistry" and I mostly study how transition metals and oxyanions react with minerals, organic matter, and microorganisms in soils and sediments. The job has taken a strange turn in the last few years where I am investigating the uniqueness of the surface chemistry of microorganisms that grow in extreme environments (Arctic and NZ thermal pools). I share a lot of research tools and techniques with the Material Science people but everything I do is on hydrated surfaces and my surfaces are a lot more messy.