Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB

Joe · 12-04-2005, 06:44 PM

A friend in R/C made this block on his own mini lathe back before procooling or most watercooling was even going on. He made this ~6 years ago, and used one on his CPU and never used this one.

For 6 years old its quite impressive. yes its aluminum, but for its time, it was way ahead.

The dude is a mechanical engineer by trade, and is one of the more innovative thinkers I know. he constantly impresses me.

BillA · 12-04-2005, 06:50 PM

nice Joe, good engn w/o someone to follow

Joe · 12-04-2005, 06:52 PM

considering most blocks back then were chunks of aluminum that had some holes drilled in it.

jaydee · 12-04-2005, 07:30 PM

That is a great looking block.

Spot · 12-04-2005, 08:46 PM

6 yrs ago, that's really ahead of its time. His recent works must be really interesting.

Joe · 12-04-2005, 08:54 PM

No he spends all his time in R/C stuff now. he builds or trys to push RC tech out as far as he can. Often blocked by opponents of change.

One thing he has done is shown that a Li Polymer and small scale brushless motor driven car is superior in most ways to the NiMH powered brushed cars. In weight, cost, and speed. But doesn't make much headway it seems

BillA · 12-04-2005, 10:55 PM

curious, I'm quite into li-pos for portable magnetometers
seems like a no-brainer, they sure fly them

chewyboy · 12-05-2005, 03:23 AM

Joe: it might just be the area he is in with RC stuff. as far as li-poly and brushless if you want the best out there right now everyone agrees that is the way to go. He might want to check out http://www.one18th.com they have a ton of people on there using brushless stuff right now even though it is for 1/18'th scale rc. anyway nice lookin block for 6 years ago.

Joe · 12-05-2005, 12:29 PM

Well one of the funny things is I am one of the people opposed to his LiPo/brushless thing

See we race in classes, and in a class that has a spec motor, that motor should be the spec. His take is that if he makes a 1/12th scale car wtih a 1/18 scale brushless and LiPo's that it would be better than using the spec motor.

Unfortunately because people have layed out the cash for the motors already, getting people to change is hard. I dont like seeing a division in the racing series since there are few enough of us already... I push to keep with the spec motor for the season.

The whole brushless vs Brushed is a huge deal in R/C, and not really based in any technical issues, its all political and oppinion driven. My stance is simple - I just want people to race with. Whether we all go to the new goodies, or stay where we are, I just want to be where I have the most competition.

Hi LiPo car is something like 300Grams lighter than a normal 1/12th. thats SERIOUS weight savings. (when a standard NiMH/Brushed car weighs in at 750Grams)

Its the wave of the future, just not enough people ready to jump it seems.

Bloody_Sorcerer · 12-05-2005, 08:11 PM

wow, had that been done in copper it could very well still be a competitive block, kinda like the MCW600x blocks. AMAZING for a block 6 years old O_O. Would also make an excellent TEC block from the looks of it

AngryAlpaca · 12-05-2005, 08:23 PM

Enough with the thinking! Test the block!

Looks good, though.

Joe · 12-05-2005, 08:36 PM

it will get tested, I already told pH I want to see this tested down the road

G33k · 12-14-2005, 10:36 AM

Not wanting to sound (too) controversial, but I don't think that's all that impressive as a 6 year old block. I think in fact it was more that all the other blocks around at the time were rather unimpressive. It's all basic thermodynamics, and fluid dynamics. The problem was that the people finding solutions weren't/aren't scientists with a background in what they were trying to produce. I'm as guilty as the rest - I was using a whirlpool block for years

BillA · 12-14-2005, 11:08 AM

perfectly true, Kayes and London (sp) in print for years
few 'professionals' involved in WCing even today

jaydee · 12-14-2005, 08:54 PM

Indeed. In 2001 I made my Aluminum Lemon Block and then later I made a copper version in 2002 and it still is my top block by my testing (excluding the R-Type and Lumpy channel block being I didn't test those on my best bench.)

Ever since I made that block I knew pins were a good way to go. As said I do not think to many professionals were in the game at the time either and as stated still are not being there really isn't much demand for it.

jaydee · 03-31-2008, 07:25 PM

Have to bring this thread back to life. I find it very interesting the top commercial blocks TODAY have all gone and/or stuck with pin grid.

Even Danger Dens new MC-TDX block is pin grid....

ben333 · 03-31-2008, 07:35 PM

Wow joe, you've gotta put that on a processor

Does look WAY ahead of the blocks made... 9 years ago

derelict · 04-10-2008, 01:28 PM

I agree. If that were copper, even by today's standards I'm sure it would perform well.

12-04-2005, 06:50 PM	#2
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB nice Joe, good engn w/o someone to follow

12-04-2005, 06:52 PM	#3
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB considering most blocks back then were chunks of aluminum that had some holes drilled in it. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-04-2005, 07:30 PM	#4
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB That is a great looking block.

12-04-2005, 08:46 PM	#5
Spot Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: huh? Posts: 85	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB 6 yrs ago, that's really ahead of its time. His recent works must be really interesting.

12-04-2005, 08:54 PM	#6
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB No he spends all his time in R/C stuff now. he builds or trys to push RC tech out as far as he can. Often blocked by opponents of change. One thing he has done is shown that a Li Polymer and small scale brushless motor driven car is superior in most ways to the NiMH powered brushed cars. In weight, cost, and speed. But doesn't make much headway it seems __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-04-2005, 10:55 PM	#7
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB curious, I'm quite into li-pos for portable magnetometers seems like a no-brainer, they sure fly them

12-05-2005, 03:23 AM	#8
chewyboy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: us Posts: 75	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB Joe: it might just be the area he is in with RC stuff. as far as li-poly and brushless if you want the best out there right now everyone agrees that is the way to go. He might want to check out http://www.one18th.com they have a ton of people on there using brushless stuff right now even though it is for 1/18'th scale rc. anyway nice lookin block for 6 years ago.

12-05-2005, 12:29 PM	#9
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB Well one of the funny things is I am one of the people opposed to his LiPo/brushless thing See we race in classes, and in a class that has a spec motor, that motor should be the spec. His take is that if he makes a 1/12th scale car wtih a 1/18 scale brushless and LiPo's that it would be better than using the spec motor. Unfortunately because people have layed out the cash for the motors already, getting people to change is hard. I dont like seeing a division in the racing series since there are few enough of us already... I push to keep with the spec motor for the season. The whole brushless vs Brushed is a huge deal in R/C, and not really based in any technical issues, its all political and oppinion driven. My stance is simple - I just want people to race with. Whether we all go to the new goodies, or stay where we are, I just want to be where I have the most competition. Hi LiPo car is something like 300Grams lighter than a normal 1/12th. thats SERIOUS weight savings. (when a standard NiMH/Brushed car weighs in at 750Grams) Its the wave of the future, just not enough people ready to jump it seems. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-05-2005, 08:11 PM	#10
Bloody_Sorcerer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Near frozenCPU Posts: 55	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB wow, had that been done in copper it could very well still be a competitive block, kinda like the MCW600x blocks. AMAZING for a block 6 years old O_O. Would also make an excellent TEC block from the looks of it

12-05-2005, 08:23 PM	#11
AngryAlpaca Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 631	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB Enough with the thinking! Test the block! Looks good, though.

12-05-2005, 08:36 PM	#12
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB it will get tested, I already told pH I want to see this tested down the road __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-14-2005, 10:36 AM	#13
G33k Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bristol [UK] Posts: 73	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB Not wanting to sound (too) controversial, but I don't think that's all that impressive as a 6 year old block. I think in fact it was more that all the other blocks around at the time were rather unimpressive. It's all basic thermodynamics, and fluid dynamics. The problem was that the people finding solutions weren't/aren't scientists with a background in what they were trying to produce. I'm as guilty as the rest - I was using a whirlpool block for years __________________ "Success is 99% Failure"

12-14-2005, 11:08 AM	#14
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB perfectly true, Kayes and London (sp) in print for years few 'professionals' involved in WCing even today

12-14-2005, 08:54 PM	#15
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB Indeed. In 2001 I made my Aluminum Lemon Block and then later I made a copper version in 2002 and it still is my top block by my testing (excluding the R-Type and Lumpy channel block being I didn't test those on my best bench.) Ever since I made that block I knew pins were a good way to go. As said I do not think to many professionals were in the game at the time either and as stated still are not being there really isn't much demand for it. Last edited by jaydee; 03-31-2008 at 07:16 PM.

03-31-2008, 07:35 PM	#17
ben333 Uber Pro/Mods Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Hampshire (USA) Posts: Two hundred somethin Posts: 432	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB Wow joe, you've gotta put that on a processor Does look WAY ahead of the blocks made... 9 years ago __________________ Pro Slacker

04-10-2008, 01:28 PM	#18
derelict Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 39	Re: Check this out - a 6 year old home made WB I agree. If that were copper, even by today's standards I'm sure it would perform well.

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