T-Bred sample

Cappu · 04-04-2002, 12:51 PM

For you guys who haven't seen this little test of a AMD Thoroughbred 1700+ yet

:
http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/cpu/tbred_sample/

Brad · 04-04-2002, 01:05 PM

yes I have, it doesn't OC too well at all

Cappu · 04-04-2002, 01:15 PM

Nah... it doesn't but it's probaly because it's a test sample. But it's goods to see that AMD is cabable of producing 0.13 micron chips though

Cappu · 04-04-2002, 01:23 PM

Btw.. DAMN you're quick at replying!

mrcandy224 · 04-05-2002, 02:29 AM

Maybe because its factory engineered but I have a random feeling that proc isn't supposed to be unlocked.. wasn't thoroughbred supposed to stop unlockers?

Jorde · 04-05-2002, 02:33 AM

There is coming more about that t-bred at Muropaketti, I know, I'm from Finland

There's going to be more broken dies ever, when t-bred comes to market. Damn those AMD guys are smart to make that small die.

mrcandy224 · 04-05-2002, 09:18 AM

Yur right.. those cores will be smashed like a BUG under our watercooling and what not.

Jorde · 04-05-2002, 10:39 AM

And people must get new shimms because that t-bred core is "so" much lower than palomino and tb (palomino and tb have almost same height cores).

But I must buy one of those t-breds next summer, that tb1,33 is no good for extreme OC

Joe · 04-05-2002, 10:42 AM

Only lil girls use shims!!!!!!!!

Cappu · 04-05-2002, 10:48 AM

You got that right Joe...
Threw mine away when er converted to watercooling, cause it took up all the place where I wanted to put a Senfu temp probe.

I don't think that it's gonna be a bigger prob crushing them T-Bred cores than it is with T-Bird and XP cores.

Jorde · 04-05-2002, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
Only lil girls use shims!!!!!!!!

You got that right

But when keeping up a hardware site (no, not joking; http://www.savethecore.com) and reviewing HSF's and waterblocks I don't want to end up with smashed core, because I don't have money for new one at the moment

And you can use temp probe with shimm after some Dremel cutting

Joe · 04-05-2002, 11:06 AM

Hey man thats no excuse, I have a 1.4Ghz Tbird core I have put over 100 different blocks and HSF's on and prolly swapped and re-mounted stuff over 200 -300 times. and NEVER a chip or as much as a scratch (even using the OCH "chip crusher" Reactor)

you just need to learn how to mount a HSF or block

Brad · 04-05-2002, 05:46 PM

I've never cracked a core either. One time I tried to crack my p3 500 with a fop32, I just couldn't hehe. I tried really hard as well

Haddy · 04-06-2002, 12:43 AM

bah here goes the shim bashers......blah blah blah shims are for girls blah blah blah whatever.....im glad u guys have money lieing around cause i know i dont have another $100+ for a new processor, its safety. u dont go driving without ur seatbelt just cause u know ur a good driver...

Jorde · 04-06-2002, 01:55 AM

And why shouldn't I use a shimm if a have tons of them (not that much but at the moment 10 different). And it's just for safety and a good copper shimm makes your about 2°C cooler.

Brad · 04-06-2002, 03:50 AM

I've seen just as many people have their shims move slightly nd short out their bridges or lift up the heatsink as people who like shims

and I've never seen anyone drop temps by using a shim

Jorde · 04-06-2002, 06:11 AM

I don't know what kind of shimms they sell in US but here in Finland we have just so damn great shimms

I have made roundup of about 7 shimm and they all dropped cpu temps at least one degree. I'm now using xp copper shimm but it isn't as good as tb shimm. Also full copper performs better than silver plated copper shimm (I really don't know why).

Haddy · 04-06-2002, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
I've seen just as many people have their shims move slightly nd short out their bridges or lift up the heatsink as people who like shims

and I've never seen anyone drop temps by using a shim

back when i had my maze 2 it droped it by about 3c....btw the only way for it to raise up is for it to be bent...and if u dumb enough not to look at it before u put it on then maybe u should lose that chip....

mkosem · 04-06-2002, 01:53 PM

the only processor I used a shim on was my p3-800eb, that was becasuse there was no means of keeping a block stable on it with a lot ov moving. but since AMD has the nice pads, and intel has the IHS's there's really no need for them nowadays.

--Matt

Cappu · 04-06-2002, 02:06 PM

Ye.... you're right! Them pads does help stabilizing the cooler on top of the core

warp_zero · 04-11-2002, 04:47 PM

i used a shim once. then it got mangled by me rolling over it in a chair. i hate shims.

WebMasta33 · 04-11-2002, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
Only lil girls use shims!!!!!!!!

*hikes up skirt*

I look at it this way... Shim = piece of mind for me. So shim = good to me

This is just like the Ricer and v8 muscle car debate... it's more opinion than anything else.

MeltMan · 04-11-2002, 09:29 PM

Hahaha! I dont have an extra $100 laying around either. Thats why i cant afford a shim! lol. I did, however, somehow chip my sweetass athlon 700. Its ok though, i was being hasty trying to figure out why it wouldnt post at 892 when it did the day before, and ran stable. Anyways, long story short, chip still works, somehow i bumped a multiplier dipswitch.

Does that make me a DIP-switch?

892mhz rocks! wooo!! (the duron 1k is on the way)

W00T!!

EMC2 · 04-12-2002, 07:28 PM

Quote:

*hikes up skirt*

Nicccccce legs

04-04-2002, 12:51 PM	#1
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	T-Bred sample For you guys who haven't seen this little test of a AMD Thoroughbred 1700+ yet : http://www.muropaketti.com/artikkelit/cpu/tbred_sample/ __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

04-04-2002, 01:05 PM	#2
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	yes I have, it doesn't OC too well at all __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-04-2002, 01:15 PM	#3
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	Nah... it doesn't but it's probaly because it's a test sample. But it's goods to see that AMD is cabable of producing 0.13 micron chips though __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

04-04-2002, 01:23 PM	#4
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	Btw.. DAMN you're quick at replying! __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

04-05-2002, 02:29 AM	#5
mrcandy224 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Solana Beach, CA, USA Posts: 50	Maybe because its factory engineered but I have a random feeling that proc isn't supposed to be unlocked.. wasn't thoroughbred supposed to stop unlockers? __________________ EpoX 8k7a is the BEST. 512 MB DDR VisionTek GeForce3 1.33 @ 1.56 Ghz

04-05-2002, 02:33 AM	#6
Jorde Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Finland, Europe Posts: 11	There is coming more about that t-bred at Muropaketti, I know, I'm from Finland There's going to be more broken dies ever, when t-bred comes to market. Damn those AMD guys are smart to make that small die. __________________ Jorde tb1333 @ 1760 Vcore 2.20 Dry Ice Cooled (-79°C)

04-05-2002, 09:18 AM	#7
mrcandy224 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Solana Beach, CA, USA Posts: 50	Yur right.. those cores will be smashed like a BUG under our watercooling and what not. __________________ EpoX 8k7a is the BEST. 512 MB DDR VisionTek GeForce3 1.33 @ 1.56 Ghz

04-05-2002, 10:39 AM	#8
Jorde Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Finland, Europe Posts: 11	And people must get new shimms because that t-bred core is "so" much lower than palomino and tb (palomino and tb have almost same height cores). But I must buy one of those t-breds next summer, that tb1,33 is no good for extreme OC __________________ Jorde tb1333 @ 1760 Vcore 2.20 Dry Ice Cooled (-79°C)

04-05-2002, 10:42 AM	#9
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Only lil girls use shims!!!!!!!! __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

04-05-2002, 10:48 AM	#10
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	You got that right Joe... Threw mine away when er converted to watercooling, cause it took up all the place where I wanted to put a Senfu temp probe. I don't think that it's gonna be a bigger prob crushing them T-Bred cores than it is with T-Bird and XP cores. __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

04-05-2002, 11:06 AM	#12
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Hey man thats no excuse, I have a 1.4Ghz Tbird core I have put over 100 different blocks and HSF's on and prolly swapped and re-mounted stuff over 200 -300 times. and NEVER a chip or as much as a scratch (even using the OCH "chip crusher" Reactor) you just need to learn how to mount a HSF or block __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

04-05-2002, 05:46 PM	#13
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I've never cracked a core either. One time I tried to crack my p3 500 with a fop32, I just couldn't hehe. I tried really hard as well __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-06-2002, 12:43 AM	#14
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	bah here goes the shim bashers......blah blah blah shims are for girls blah blah blah whatever.....im glad u guys have money lieing around cause i know i dont have another $100+ for a new processor, its safety. u dont go driving without ur seatbelt just cause u know ur a good driver...

04-06-2002, 01:55 AM	#15
Jorde Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Finland, Europe Posts: 11	And why shouldn't I use a shimm if a have tons of them (not that much but at the moment 10 different). And it's just for safety and a good copper shimm makes your about 2°C cooler. __________________ Jorde tb1333 @ 1760 Vcore 2.20 Dry Ice Cooled (-79°C)

04-06-2002, 03:50 AM	#16
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	I've seen just as many people have their shims move slightly nd short out their bridges or lift up the heatsink as people who like shims and I've never seen anyone drop temps by using a shim __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-06-2002, 06:11 AM	#17
Jorde Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Finland, Europe Posts: 11	I don't know what kind of shimms they sell in US but here in Finland we have just so damn great shimms I have made roundup of about 7 shimm and they all dropped cpu temps at least one degree. I'm now using xp copper shimm but it isn't as good as tb shimm. Also full copper performs better than silver plated copper shimm (I really don't know why). __________________ Jorde tb1333 @ 1760 Vcore 2.20 Dry Ice Cooled (-79°C)

04-06-2002, 01:53 PM	#19
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	the only processor I used a shim on was my p3-800eb, that was becasuse there was no means of keeping a block stable on it with a lot ov moving. but since AMD has the nice pads, and intel has the IHS's there's really no need for them nowadays. --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

04-06-2002, 02:06 PM	#20
Cappu Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 30	Ye.... you're right! Them pads does help stabilizing the cooler on top of the core __________________ Best regards Cappu "The Spice Extends Life - The Spice Expands Consciousness - The Spice Is Vital To Spacetravel" www.kabu.dk

04-11-2002, 04:47 PM	#21
warp_zero Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: A.D. 2101 Posts: 65	i used a shim once. then it got mangled by me rolling over it in a chair. i hate shims. __________________ sub_light@yahoo.com long live TRAAM-II

04-11-2002, 09:29 PM	#23
MeltMan Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: KS Posts: 374	Hahaha! I dont have an extra $100 laying around either. Thats why i cant afford a shim! lol. I did, however, somehow chip my sweetass athlon 700. Its ok though, i was being hasty trying to figure out why it wouldnt post at 892 when it did the day before, and ran stable. Anyways, long story short, chip still works, somehow i bumped a multiplier dipswitch. Does that make me a DIP-switch? 892mhz rocks! wooo!! (the duron 1k is on the way) W00T!! __________________ MeltMan Lurker Supreme!

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