approach to building airtrap=)

kibbler · 04-08-2002, 09:38 PM

I have a good air trap idea, I'll try to upload pics when I'm done.

I'm using a 1 3/4 OD, 1 1/2 ID acrylic tube. I also have a 1 1/2 diameter arcylic rod, from which I will cut a 1/2" plug for the tube, drill, and cement for the bottom of the air trap (outlet). For the inlet, I have a 2 in. OD, 1 3/4 ID tube, from which I will also cut a 1 in. section. Drill through both the original tube and this larger piece, slide (with great effort) the larger piece over the original tube, so I have enough thickness to tap threads/cement for another barb, and there you have it

Again, that might sound confusing, sorry, but I'll have pics up soon hopefully

any suggestions, tho?

oh, and sorry if this was someone else's original idea

Haddy · 04-09-2002, 02:59 AM

yea picture is gona help but i think i got what ur saying....try to tap thos barbs in...help prevent leaks..which is a major problem i had.....also whatkinda cement are u using..

hmm did i make this first?? (well not working of course and besides those german geeks)

decodeddiesel · 04-09-2002, 10:50 AM

That sounds like a great idea...now where are you going to get the supplies to do it with from?

Haddy · 04-09-2002, 12:13 PM

usplastics is great

mcduffiem · 04-09-2002, 01:58 PM

Where did you fin 1/4" wall acrylic tubing? USPlastic only has 1/8" wall.

Using rod for the plug ends is a good idea. I had planned to use acrlic sheet for the ends. Anyone have experience with acrylic cement? I've seen it used on clear case projects, but does it form a water tight seal?

kibbler · 04-09-2002, 02:26 PM

damn, usplastic only sells certain stuff in 6ft sections. I will definitely not need 6ft of anything, and 6ft of acrylic rod gets pretty expensive. Where else can I buy stock acrylic, preferably in 1 ft lengths?

Thanx

Haddy · 04-09-2002, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mcduffiem
Where did you fin 1/4" wall acrylic tubing? USPlastic only has 1/8" wall.

Using rod for the plug ends is a good idea. I had planned to use acrlic sheet for the ends. Anyone have experience with acrylic cement? I've seen it used on clear case projects, but does it form a water tight seal?

they have 1/2" tubing search for Acrylic Extruded Tubing, Heavy Duty.....their 1/4" stuff is under Acrylic Extruded Tubing 1 1/2" to 6"......also my next tube is gona have the cut out circles that usplastics also have and some plastic weld #14 (its capilary glue so it better be water tight or theres something wrong with physics)

Adam · 04-09-2002, 02:37 PM

yeah...acrylic weld is air/watertight.....
if you do it right you cant even tell that you welded it....might wanna practice with it a few time b4 you make the final piece though....

mcduffiem · 04-09-2002, 02:40 PM

kibbler,

If you don't find a supplier that sells in smaller increments (if you do please let me know), we may be able to work something out. I plan on ordering a few things from USPlastic. I could buy 6 ft and send you the amount you need at cost plus shipping to you. I'd have to pay the shipping to me anyway.

Techguy · 04-09-2002, 02:49 PM

just be sure you mount the air trap at the highest point, or Joe will force you to read the cooling tech explained article! :->

if you need pic hosting, I can provide.

Haddy · 04-09-2002, 02:53 PM

hehe yea and u can ponder @ his awesome mspaint skillz

decodeddiesel · 04-09-2002, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kibbler
damn, usplastic only sells certain stuff in 6ft sections. I will definitely not need 6ft of anything, and 6ft of acrylic rod gets pretty expensive. Where else can I buy stock acrylic, preferably in 1 ft lengths?

Thanx

I knew it, been there done that. Good luck finding anywhere that'll sell you 12" segments. Lord knows I've I've tried to no avail.

redleader · 04-09-2002, 03:30 PM

Why don't more people use PVC? Its cheap, easily available and comes already tapped (just add barbs).

Sure you can see through it, but who actually needs to look at an air tap anyway? Its still going to work just as well.

Techguy · 04-09-2002, 03:36 PM

that's y I use a dubro fuel tank.
it's small cheap and sealed.
it was easy to add 2 nylon barbs to it.

mcduffiem · 04-09-2002, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by redleader
Why don't more people use PVC? Its cheap, easily available and comes already tapped (just add barbs).

Sure you can see through it, but who actually needs to look at an air tap anyway? Its still going to work just as well.

I imagine it's the same reason people use acrylic tops on waterblocks, clear tygon tubing, etc. It just looks cool.

Haddy · 04-09-2002, 04:18 PM

exactly y spend all that time and money if u cant c inside of it....thats y we put widnows in comps.....to c our handy work....also its only 6 foot of tubing i used like 3 foot just experminting...how many times have u gottin stuff like this perfectly right the first time?

Techguy · 04-09-2002, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Haddy
how many times have u gottin stuff like this perfectly right the first time?

everyday!

Haddy · 04-09-2002, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Techguy

everyday!

well im a messure once cut twice...AND ITS STILL TO SHORT! hehe

kibbler · 04-09-2002, 07:54 PM

mcduffiem, that sounds like a great idea!! First of all, we should make sure we're getting the same items. If you want to go ahead and do this, I'll list my dimensions again:

1 1/2 in. ID - 1 3/4 in. OD acrylic tube

1 3/4 in. ID - 2 in. OD acrylic tube

1 1/2 in. diameter round acrylic rod

I'll need at most 1 ft of each. Let me know if this is cool, then we can work out shipping/cost, etc.

kibbler · 04-09-2002, 08:27 PM

Actually, on the usplastic site, there's something called tenite butyrate tubing available (I believe this was mentioned in another thread). Stuff's a lot cheaper than acrylic. Anyone used it before? How does it compare to acrylic?

mcduffiem · 04-10-2002, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kibbler
mcduffiem, that sounds like a great idea!! First of all, we should make sure we're getting the same items. If you want to go ahead and do this, I'll list my dimensions again:

1 1/2 in. ID - 1 3/4 in. OD acrylic tube

1 3/4 in. ID - 2 in. OD acrylic tube

1 1/2 in. diameter round acrylic rod

I'll need at most 1 ft of each. Let me know if this is cool, then we can work out shipping/cost, etc.

There may be a problem. My design would only involve the 1-1/2 - 1-3/4 tube and 1/8 sheet in a circle. 6 foot of the two other materials would just raise the cost too high.

Sorry,

Mike

mcduffiem · 04-10-2002, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kibbler
Actually, on the usplastic site, there's something called tenite butyrate tubing available (I believe this was mentioned in another thread). Stuff's a lot cheaper than acrylic. Anyone used it before? How does it compare to acrylic?

That's actually what I had looked at first, not thinking to look under acrylic first. The potential problem is that the thickest wall size available is 1/8 which might not be thick enough for the barbs to mount properly.

Haddy · 04-10-2002, 01:52 PM

btw for tapping those barbs in look here....http://www.dorrellco.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=16 jd and fixittt where good enough to help lil ole newb me...

kibbler · 04-10-2002, 07:00 PM

mcduffiem

actually, that's okay. If you're still up to the offer, I could do very well with 1 ft of 1 1/2 ID 1 3/4 OD, so scratch the other two items. I'll probably just buy acrylic discs or rods on my own, then, but still, the tube is a good start. How about it?

Thanx

mcduffiem · 04-11-2002, 12:44 PM

kibbler,

emailed you.

04-09-2002, 10:50 AM	#3
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	That sounds like a great idea...now where are you going to get the supplies to do it with from? __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

04-09-2002, 02:40 PM	#9
mcduffiem Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 12	kibbler, If you don't find a supplier that sells in smaller increments (if you do please let me know), we may be able to work something out. I plan on ordering a few things from USPlastic. I could buy 6 ft and send you the amount you need at cost plus shipping to you. I'd have to pay the shipping to me anyway. Last edited by mcduffiem; 04-09-2002 at 02:45 PM.

04-09-2002, 02:49 PM	#10
Techguy Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 130	just be sure you mount the air trap at the highest point, or Joe will force you to read the cooling tech explained article! :-> if you need pic hosting, I can provide. __________________ My only PC is a PII 333 with 256MB RAM a GeForce2 MX 200, and 30GB's of 7,200rpm ATA/66 goodness. And yes, I know it sucks.

04-08-2002, 09:38 PM	#1
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	approach to building airtrap=) I have a good air trap idea, I'll try to upload pics when I'm done. I'm using a 1 3/4 OD, 1 1/2 ID acrylic tube. I also have a 1 1/2 diameter arcylic rod, from which I will cut a 1/2" plug for the tube, drill, and cement for the bottom of the air trap (outlet). For the inlet, I have a 2 in. OD, 1 3/4 ID tube, from which I will also cut a 1 in. section. Drill through both the original tube and this larger piece, slide (with great effort) the larger piece over the original tube, so I have enough thickness to tap threads/cement for another barb, and there you have it Again, that might sound confusing, sorry, but I'll have pics up soon hopefully any suggestions, tho? oh, and sorry if this was someone else's original idea

04-09-2002, 02:59 AM	#2
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	yea picture is gona help but i think i got what ur saying....try to tap thos barbs in...help prevent leaks..which is a major problem i had.....also whatkinda cement are u using.. hmm did i make this first?? (well not working of course and besides those german geeks)

04-09-2002, 12:13 PM	#4
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	usplastics is great

04-09-2002, 01:58 PM	#5
mcduffiem Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 12	Where did you fin 1/4" wall acrylic tubing? USPlastic only has 1/8" wall. Using rod for the plug ends is a good idea. I had planned to use acrlic sheet for the ends. Anyone have experience with acrylic cement? I've seen it used on clear case projects, but does it form a water tight seal?

04-09-2002, 02:26 PM	#6
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	damn, usplastic only sells certain stuff in 6ft sections. I will definitely not need 6ft of anything, and 6ft of acrylic rod gets pretty expensive. Where else can I buy stock acrylic, preferably in 1 ft lengths? Thanx

04-09-2002, 02:37 PM	#8
Adam Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Land of sky blue water-cooling Posts: 20	yeah...acrylic weld is air/watertight..... if you do it right you cant even tell that you welded it....might wanna practice with it a few time b4 you make the final piece though....

04-09-2002, 02:53 PM	#11
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	hehe yea and u can ponder @ his awesome mspaint skillz

04-09-2002, 03:30 PM	#13
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Why don't more people use PVC? Its cheap, easily available and comes already tapped (just add barbs). Sure you can see through it, but who actually needs to look at an air tap anyway? Its still going to work just as well.

04-09-2002, 03:36 PM	#14
Techguy Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suwanee, GA Posts: 130	that's y I use a dubro fuel tank. it's small cheap and sealed. it was easy to add 2 nylon barbs to it. __________________ My only PC is a PII 333 with 256MB RAM a GeForce2 MX 200, and 30GB's of 7,200rpm ATA/66 goodness. And yes, I know it sucks.

04-09-2002, 04:18 PM	#16
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	exactly y spend all that time and money if u cant c inside of it....thats y we put widnows in comps.....to c our handy work....also its only 6 foot of tubing i used like 3 foot just experminting...how many times have u gottin stuff like this perfectly right the first time?

04-09-2002, 07:54 PM	#19
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	mcduffiem, that sounds like a great idea!! First of all, we should make sure we're getting the same items. If you want to go ahead and do this, I'll list my dimensions again: 1 1/2 in. ID - 1 3/4 in. OD acrylic tube 1 3/4 in. ID - 2 in. OD acrylic tube 1 1/2 in. diameter round acrylic rod I'll need at most 1 ft of each. Let me know if this is cool, then we can work out shipping/cost, etc.

04-09-2002, 08:27 PM	#20
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	Actually, on the usplastic site, there's something called tenite butyrate tubing available (I believe this was mentioned in another thread). Stuff's a lot cheaper than acrylic. Anyone used it before? How does it compare to acrylic?

04-10-2002, 01:52 PM	#23
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	btw for tapping those barbs in look here....http://www.dorrellco.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=16 jd and fixittt where good enough to help lil ole newb me...

04-10-2002, 07:00 PM	#24
kibbler Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 107	mcduffiem actually, that's okay. If you're still up to the offer, I could do very well with 1 ft of 1 1/2 ID 1 3/4 OD, so scratch the other two items. I'll probably just buy acrylic discs or rods on my own, then, but still, the tube is a good start. How about it? Thanx

04-11-2002, 12:44 PM	#25
mcduffiem Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 12	kibbler, emailed you.

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