Newbie @ water cooling

tofu2go · 07-03-2002, 05:18 PM

I just got my Cooltechnica AMD kit today (danger den maze 3, eheim 1048, bi pro rad, etc.). Yay for me. Hehe here's the hard part. I'm bleeding the system right now and it seems to working fine w/out any leakage. My question is do I fill the system with water then mount it to my cpu or vice versa? Additionally, what is a T-junction for? I'm only cooling my CPU so do I even need it? Thanks. =) First time at this and it's making me nervous. Water + Electricity = me being ekk! ehe. Thanks reply back soon!

oh here's my setup: Pump>block>rad>pump> (inline setup)
^is that the right setup?

RickCain · 07-03-2002, 06:13 PM

The "T" is what you use to fill the system. You put the "T" just before the inlet (bottom one) of the pump. That way you can put the water in the "T" to fill it up.

I would suggest going pump>rad>block just to make sure you remove all of the heat generated in the pump before you get to the block.

Good Luck!!!

nikhsub1 · 07-03-2002, 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by tofu2go
I just got my Cooltechnica AMD kit today (danger den maze 3, eheim 1048, bi pro rad, etc.). Yay for me. Hehe here's the hard part. I'm bleeding the system right now and it seems to working fine w/out any leakage. My question is do I fill the system with water then mount it to my cpu or vice versa? Additionally, what is a T-junction for? I'm only cooling my CPU so do I even need it? Thanks. =) First time at this and it's making me nervous. Water + Electricity = me being ekk! ehe. Thanks reply back soon!

oh here's my setup: Pump>block>rad>pump> (inline setup)
^is that the right setup?

Install the H20 system in the case with no other components. Fill bleed and run for a good 12 Hours to insure there are no leaks. A "T" junction is for ease of filling and bleeding an inline system. you want the "T" to tee off at the lowest point in the system, ie, the lowest hose is the one you should "T" up from. Make sure it it goes higher than the highest point in the system and keep the water filled in the "T" the highest water point in the system. A "T" is a good thing to have, make sure after you fill the system that you plug up the "T" so the system is air tight. Then let it run for 12 hours and it should bleed itself, you can tilt the case while it is running to help get air bubbles out.

tofu2go · 07-03-2002, 06:44 PM

I don't understand how the "T-junction" can make bleeding easier... I mean... ok it can making filling the system easier... but... how do I close it off when I'm done addng the water? Additionally, wouldn't it kill my flow rate?

nikhsub1 · 07-03-2002, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by tofu2go
I don't understand how the "T-junction" can make bleeding easier... I mean... ok it can making filling the system easier... but... how do I close it off when I'm done addng the water? Additionally, wouldn't it kill my flow rate?

It makes it easy because there is a place for the air bubbles to go, up the T. Get a bolt or a plastic pipe cap and hose clamp it in the T once you fill it up. No it will not kill your flow rate, the water will not flow up the T, it goes right past it.

tofu2go · 07-03-2002, 06:57 PM

ok to get it straight...

[ghetto diagram]

+<a silicon tub cap they gave me
| <tubing
|
=====[tubing]====| | <T-junction
|
| <tubing

so what you're saying is that the water will not flow upward.... because...? there's air pushing it down? hmm... I kinda get it now but sitll not fully grasping it. Anyway, when I position the T-junction do I put the only vertical nozel facing upward or downward? it makes more sense downward if I want to rid the system of water, but it would more sense if it's upward to add in water... ? Hmm and wouldn't adding water overflow it.. sorry I'm really a newbie at this and I appreciate your time and effort @ aiding me. Right now my dad is drilling a hole for my radiator to fit in back of my case.

tofu2go · 07-03-2002, 06:58 PM

aww the diagram didn't come out right. Well the vertical tubing are suppose to be right beside the T junction

nikhsub1 · 07-03-2002, 07:12 PM

As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Pic thanks to DodgeViper.

tofu2go · 07-03-2002, 07:58 PM

so essently if you wanted to drain the system all you have do is unplug that high tube and pull it down so gravity and do its work? Sorta? hehe am I sorta right?

FRAGN'STIEN · 07-03-2002, 08:09 PM

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webmedic · 07-03-2002, 08:15 PM

Frag you need to change the link to your community page so others can see it.

FRAGN'STIEN · 07-03-2002, 08:18 PM

Oops that was stupid

sorry here ya go.

tofu2go · 07-03-2002, 08:27 PM

so was my hypothesis correct about the thingy?

webmedic · 07-03-2002, 08:37 PM

Well yes the tube can be used to drain it partialy but it's mostly used for filling.

FRAGN'STIEN · 07-03-2002, 08:41 PM

You always want to put the T up so it will rid the system of air. As the system is running you will start to notice little (soda size) bubbles form in the fill tube just give the tube a light flick with your finger and the bubbles will rise to the top. Eventually the bubbles will go away and you might notice a slight decreas in temps. As far as draining it goes go to Fred Meyer and pick up a transfer pump, I bought one there for $10.00, works very slick

tofu2go · 07-03-2002, 09:05 PM

now that I got that all cleared thank very much, how much water wetter do I add?

FRAGN'STIEN · 07-03-2002, 09:12 PM

I used about 3 capfulls in mine but in my new setup I use hyperlube supercoolant it's basically the same as water wetter but it's green instead of pink, looks alot better and doesn't smell as bad.

RickCain · 07-03-2002, 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by nikhsub1
As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Pic thanks to DodgeViper.

If find it interesting that the "T" is on the outlet side instead of the inlet of the pump to make it much easier to fill. On that system you would have to fill the radiator before water would get to the pump. Hmmmm

tofu2go · 07-04-2002, 01:52 AM

ok, I got the T junction all setup and I'm once again bleeding the system. However, this time the air bubble doesn't seem to go away. I think I have cleared all the air out from the rad and the pump. Whenver I press on the tub leading upward from the t junction a mass of air burst out of the outlet tube. Why is this happening? is the vertical tubing from the t juction the culprit? I need help. Getting ticked.

webmedic · 07-04-2002, 07:24 AM

It will normally take a few hours for the air to clear out. It also depends on the pump. Some pumps make more air than others but in your case the ehiems aren't to bad about that. I have one pump that will never void all the air out of the system. I think it has something todo with the impeler design. I whould normaly say it's due to sucking air but thats imposible because one of them is in a res. Fortunatly I only have two pumps like this all the others work great but still take a few hours to void the air.

07-03-2002, 05:18 PM	#1
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	Newbie @ water cooling I just got my Cooltechnica AMD kit today (danger den maze 3, eheim 1048, bi pro rad, etc.). Yay for me. Hehe here's the hard part. I'm bleeding the system right now and it seems to working fine w/out any leakage. My question is do I fill the system with water then mount it to my cpu or vice versa? Additionally, what is a T-junction for? I'm only cooling my CPU so do I even need it? Thanks. =) First time at this and it's making me nervous. Water + Electricity = me being ekk! ehe. Thanks reply back soon! oh here's my setup: Pump>block>rad>pump> (inline setup) ^is that the right setup?

07-03-2002, 08:09 PM	#10
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	Edit \| V __________________ This space for rent Last edited by FRAGN'STIEN; 07-03-2002 at 08:21 PM.

07-03-2002, 08:15 PM	#11
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	Frag you need to change the link to your community page so others can see it. __________________ www.water-cool.com

07-03-2002, 08:18 PM	#12
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	Oops that was stupid sorry here ya go. __________________ This space for rent

07-03-2002, 08:37 PM	#14
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	Well yes the tube can be used to drain it partialy but it's mostly used for filling. __________________ www.water-cool.com

07-03-2002, 06:13 PM	#2
RickCain Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 110	The "T" is what you use to fill the system. You put the "T" just before the inlet (bottom one) of the pump. That way you can put the water in the "T" to fill it up. I would suggest going pump>rad>block just to make sure you remove all of the heat generated in the pump before you get to the block. Good Luck!!!

07-03-2002, 06:44 PM	#4
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	I don't understand how the "T-junction" can make bleeding easier... I mean... ok it can making filling the system easier... but... how do I close it off when I'm done addng the water? Additionally, wouldn't it kill my flow rate?

07-03-2002, 06:57 PM	#6
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	ok to get it straight... [ghetto diagram] +<a silicon tub cap they gave me \| <tubing \| =====[tubing]====\| \| <T-junction \| \| <tubing so what you're saying is that the water will not flow upward.... because...? there's air pushing it down? hmm... I kinda get it now but sitll not fully grasping it. Anyway, when I position the T-junction do I put the only vertical nozel facing upward or downward? it makes more sense downward if I want to rid the system of water, but it would more sense if it's upward to add in water... ? Hmm and wouldn't adding water overflow it.. sorry I'm really a newbie at this and I appreciate your time and effort @ aiding me. Right now my dad is drilling a hole for my radiator to fit in back of my case.

07-03-2002, 06:58 PM	#7
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	aww the diagram didn't come out right. Well the vertical tubing are suppose to be right beside the T junction

07-03-2002, 07:58 PM	#9
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	so essently if you wanted to drain the system all you have do is unplug that high tube and pull it down so gravity and do its work? Sorta? hehe am I sorta right?

07-03-2002, 08:27 PM	#13
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	so was my hypothesis correct about the thingy?

07-03-2002, 08:41 PM	#15
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	You always want to put the T up so it will rid the system of air. As the system is running you will start to notice little (soda size) bubbles form in the fill tube just give the tube a light flick with your finger and the bubbles will rise to the top. Eventually the bubbles will go away and you might notice a slight decreas in temps. As far as draining it goes go to Fred Meyer and pick up a transfer pump, I bought one there for $10.00, works very slick __________________ This space for rent Last edited by FRAGN'STIEN; 07-03-2002 at 08:44 PM.

07-03-2002, 09:05 PM	#16
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	now that I got that all cleared thank very much, how much water wetter do I add?

07-03-2002, 09:12 PM	#17
FRAGN'STIEN Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 380	I used about 3 capfulls in mine but in my new setup I use hyperlube supercoolant it's basically the same as water wetter but it's green instead of pink, looks alot better and doesn't smell as bad. __________________ This space for rent

07-04-2002, 01:52 AM	#19
tofu2go Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA Posts: 30	ok, I got the T junction all setup and I'm once again bleeding the system. However, this time the air bubble doesn't seem to go away. I think I have cleared all the air out from the rad and the pump. Whenver I press on the tub leading upward from the t junction a mass of air burst out of the outlet tube. Why is this happening? is the vertical tubing from the t juction the culprit? I need help. Getting ticked.

07-04-2002, 07:24 AM	#20
webmedic Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cheney, Wa Posts: 367	It will normally take a few hours for the air to clear out. It also depends on the pump. Some pumps make more air than others but in your case the ehiems aren't to bad about that. I have one pump that will never void all the air out of the system. I think it has something todo with the impeler design. I whould normaly say it's due to sucking air but thats imposible because one of them is in a res. Fortunatly I only have two pumps like this all the others work great but still take a few hours to void the air. __________________ www.water-cool.com

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