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Unread 08-03-2002, 09:27 PM   #1
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Default need (car)audiophile input upgrading amps

ok this will prolly be a long and confusing post but bear with me thanks

ok as it is i have all thist stuff and not enough to power it
i will post links of what i have all the speakers are fine it is just the power delivery that is the problem

currently i have
2 in the trunk custom box wired in 4ohm http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Produ...=6&SeriesID=27

1 pair in the front doors tweets axile mounted http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Produ...=4&SeriesID=20

1 pair in the dash set to ambient http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Produ...=4&SeriesID=20

1 pair in the rear deck currently not powerd becase of lack of juice to power them i feel but not sure we will get into it latter http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Produ...=4&SeriesID=20

1 of these this currently powers the dash tweets off the front chan and the doors off the rear chan the 5 ch is not used nor will it ever do to lack of balls http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...productId=2426

1 of these this is bridged right now in mono powering the subs however it is last years modle so here is a ass backwords way to get to it http://www.kenwoodusa.com/support/ma...&productId=448 and then the product is the KAC-X201T

the deck is http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...productId=2420

power delv to the amps is no issue i have 1 fard cap and 2 gauge wire to the cap and 4s to the amps with this upgrade i MAY get another 1 fard

evey thing sounds like shit right now becase there is very very course tuneing done

like i said the rears are NOT hooked up i am debating to hook the ambients and the doors to the front ouputs on the 650d and then the rear deck speakers to the rear out put on the 650d that woul get all my inters powered however i am not sure about the impednces it will be ****ey also not sure if that will clip tha amp

then there is the issue of the subs the 201 is to SMALL for those pros end of story that will need to be fixed

there are many possible game plans
they may involve kenwood excelon and jlaudio i have never owned jlaudio however i spent severeal hours at tweeter listeing to the 2 amps the the jl sounded better however hows to say tweeter didnt fix it that way if you know what i mean to push sales in a certin way

so i want options on the 2 companys if you dont mind

ok now for the plans
the plans will may use any of these following amps ready for more links

http://www.jlaudio.com/amps/5001.html would be used for the subs

http://www.jlaudio.com/amps/3004.html would be used to power either the dash and the rear deck or dash door and rear deck if used to power all 3 then i would have issues tuneing the sound stage between the dash and doors

http://www.jlaudio.com/amps/3002.html would be used if the 4 was only used to power dash and rear deck this would power the doors

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...productId=2424 would be used to power subs in 1 ohm

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...productId=2425 would be used to power the doors if the 5 ch does not power the doors

http://www.kenwoodusa.com/product/pr...productId=2426 would be used to power the dash rear deck or dash rear deck and doors not sure if the amp will like that or not and i will have issues tuneing the sound stage between the dash and the doors becase they woudl be on same chan

so what i could do is take the 650 and hook the dash door and rear deck to it and get the 810 and put the subs to that however i am not sure if the 650 will like that it is a power full amp but the impedence might be ****ey

i could have the 650 power the dash and rear deck get a 520 and power the doors and get a 810 power the subs
or instead of useing a new 520 just use my existing 201 for the doors that way i only need to by the 810

use the jl300/4 power all interar but then i get to the sound stage tuneing issue and then get the 500/1 to power the subs

get jl300/4 to power the dash and rear deck get the 300/2 to power the doors or use existing 201 for the doors and then get the 500/1 for the subs

as you see hard choices to be made just hopeing some of you can give me a hand here

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thanks

o ya this isnt for boom this is for high sound Q

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Unread 08-04-2002, 02:46 AM   #2
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if your going for Sound Q get 2 10" Image dynamic IDQ's(probably about $100-$120 a peice) get 2. and probably go with Orion Concepts if you can get your hands on them about $1300 tho for a pair. otherwise Orion HCCAs sound really good to. umm Rainbow Audio Components sound good. its really up to your price range and what you wana go for Sound Q (how good you want it to sound) id suggest the Orion digital EQ 30 channel i belive it is which is also big bucks i think $800. most sound Q cars will NOT have rear speakers you want your stage to be centered perfect and have good clrear crisp sound from the front not the rear. all of the sound Q cars ive done have not had any rear speakers all they do is screw up the lows comming from the subs in the back. but thats just my suggestion. ill talk to you on aim tomarow (sorry was at a party till 2:30 am and wasnt home when you msgsed). so talk to ya tomarow. probably wont be up till past noon.
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Unread 08-04-2002, 08:15 AM   #3
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i have NO intent of replaceing any of the speakers the only thing i plan on doing is to work with thst stuff i have listed above i only have so much money to spend
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Unread 08-04-2002, 05:22 PM   #4
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hmm lemme se if i get this right? u want more A from ur generator to power all that sh*t?
i read an article about the subject i while ago, that told me/us that u could solder a couple of cables to urgenerator in the car, to get as musch as up to 6X the ammount of power before. have no idea if tehre is any page in english though.
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Unread 08-04-2002, 07:10 PM   #5
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what are you talking about my altinater is fine and i have a cap
i am just trying to decided if is hould get kenwood or jl amps and how i should wire them up
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Unread 08-04-2002, 07:10 PM   #6
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what are you talking about my altinater is fine and i have a cap
i am just trying to decided if is hould get kenwood or jl amps and how i should wire them up
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