peltier temps.

TiTch · 04-09-2002, 03:16 PM

Could someone answer a simple question for me please. I have been told by someone who has been using pelts since electricity that you cannot get sub-zero temps using one. Is this correct and what is a realistic temp to aim for with a 220w tec on a duron 900.

EMC2 · 04-09-2002, 06:08 PM

"Someone" is wrong - you can get sub-zero temps (Centrigrade) with regular water cooling and pelts. However, you would have a hard time getting there with air cooled pelts.

Look 4 or 5 threads down at the "Peltier Calculation Program" link for a way to find the answer to your 2nd question.

Brad · 04-10-2002, 02:44 AM

you can definetaly get to negative temps using pelts.

as for the temps of the duron, -20C or so, depending on your cooling, waterblock, coldplate, etc

TiTch · 04-10-2002, 02:51 AM

Thanks for your input - I got slammed for suggesting you can get lower than zero c and I was sure that I was right. I hate the person who knows everything and cannot learn anything more, wallowing in their own self importance.

It was my need to learn that brought me to this forum, and it has definately done that. Thanks.

I shall now answer his post

Jessfm · 04-12-2002, 08:17 PM

Ah TiTch- at least pass the correct information over.
We were not talking about a Duron, more like a CPu thats kicking out Over 120W.
This is continuation thread.
and what i could not post there due the constraints of the forum, I can here.
You will find all the relevent data you require for the 220W units and 172W tec's over HERE
.
I also never slammed you - and you certainly have not learned anything if all you do is troll one forum , to just gather bits of information to post in another.

I sugest you do some real work of your own.

hi btw chaps

TiTch · 04-13-2002, 03:00 AM

Jessmf,

I do not transfer arguements from one forum to another. I do not quote information from forums claiming it to be my own, I only quote articles and include a link.

If I am unsertain of my information, that in any article or any that I need for my own projects, I will always ask peeps who's judgement that I trust. Hence why I asked here. I however, at no stage quoted either forums or brought them into the issue.

Should I gain information from this site, that I am then using elsewhere, then I always make it clear that it is not my information and if nessessary include the appropritate link. I do not claim to be the worlds expert and use the finding from sites I trust and reference appropiately.

Should you wish to continue this disagreement, then please ensure that you do so in the correct place, and that is not this forum.

Lastly, the question of the Duron was for my own personal information , as I do not trust nor accept readings from the socket probe as being accurate and had nothing to do with our disagreement.

Clearly the need to learn is yours, especilly in manners and ettequate.

Brad · 04-13-2002, 06:26 AM

don't you mean etiquette?

:P

TiTch · 04-13-2002, 06:33 AM

Sorry, got dyslexia so my spelling can be interesting at times

Jessfm · 04-13-2002, 09:15 AM

Hey titch,

I seen it lots of times before - ppl trolling BBS's and Boards to quote information in another thread - you can spot it a mile off

Google is such a wounderful tool for the those with no experience.
As i said i thought you were interested in the facts & figures as you expressed over at OCS -I just found an oppertunity to cut through the political crap that most Uk forums suffer from about linking competitors - and maybe help you out with the TEC information surrounding the 220W units, comparisons to other TEC's & how they perform in systems.
What it realy takes to get a High end AMD rig sub zero with a single TEC and some idea's of the costs involved.

If i ever use other ppls to help me prove a point I make it very clear where I attained the information - thats etiquette.
As for manners - I can't see where I have been impolite

.

cmfic · 08-20-2002, 11:56 AM

I left Hardware Central because this sme sort of shit was taking place but much worse. Are we all not here to learn and teach and have a good time as well. Please do so!!!!!!!!!
Thanks John

Jessfm · 08-20-2002, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cmfic
I left Hardware Central because this sme sort of shit was taking place but much worse. Are we all not here to learn and teach and have a good time as well. Please do so!!!!!!!!!
Thanks John

Woot - blast from the past

JimS · 08-21-2002, 05:39 PM

Sounds to me like the guy came here to get a second opinion. Also sounds like the other guy did not like the fact that this second opinion was correct and that it conflicts with his own opinion.

Subzero with TEC's are possible, I know this because I have done it. And not with a Duron.

Me thinks someone needs to look up the meaning of "troll". While you're at it, check out "humility".

Jessfm · 08-21-2002, 05:51 PM

Jesus - get off guys, this threads like 4 months old.

if you don't know the "other" thread - that yo uwont understand. No one said you can't get a duron sub zero ffs

cmfic · 08-27-2002, 01:13 AM

Think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brians256 · 08-27-2002, 12:25 PM

I think the technical content of the question has been answered. Anything further is just obnoxious noise blaming one person or another. Agreed?

Good luck, TiTch. Thread is locked to avoid more flamage.

04-09-2002, 03:16 PM	#1
TiTch Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, UK. Posts: 64	peltier temps. Could someone answer a simple question for me please. I have been told by someone who has been using pelts since electricity that you cannot get sub-zero temps using one. Is this correct and what is a realistic temp to aim for with a 220w tec on a duron 900. __________________ www.gibtek.co.uk

04-10-2002, 02:44 AM	#3
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	you can definetaly get to negative temps using pelts. as for the temps of the duron, -20C or so, depending on your cooling, waterblock, coldplate, etc __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-10-2002, 02:51 AM	#4
TiTch Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, UK. Posts: 64	Thanks for your input - I got slammed for suggesting you can get lower than zero c and I was sure that I was right. I hate the person who knows everything and cannot learn anything more, wallowing in their own self importance. It was my need to learn that brought me to this forum, and it has definately done that. Thanks. I shall now answer his post __________________ www.gibtek.co.uk

04-13-2002, 03:00 AM	#6
TiTch Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, UK. Posts: 64	Jessmf, I do not transfer arguements from one forum to another. I do not quote information from forums claiming it to be my own, I only quote articles and include a link. If I am unsertain of my information, that in any article or any that I need for my own projects, I will always ask peeps who's judgement that I trust. Hence why I asked here. I however, at no stage quoted either forums or brought them into the issue. Should I gain information from this site, that I am then using elsewhere, then I always make it clear that it is not my information and if nessessary include the appropritate link. I do not claim to be the worlds expert and use the finding from sites I trust and reference appropiately. Should you wish to continue this disagreement, then please ensure that you do so in the correct place, and that is not this forum. Lastly, the question of the Duron was for my own personal information , as I do not trust nor accept readings from the socket probe as being accurate and had nothing to do with our disagreement. Clearly the need to learn is yours, especilly in manners and ettequate. __________________ www.gibtek.co.uk

04-13-2002, 06:26 AM	#7
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	don't you mean etiquette? :P __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

04-09-2002, 06:08 PM	#2
EMC2 Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dark Side of the Moon Posts: 365	"Someone" is wrong - you can get sub-zero temps (Centrigrade) with regular water cooling and pelts. However, you would have a hard time getting there with air cooled pelts. Look 4 or 5 threads down at the "Peltier Calculation Program" link for a way to find the answer to your 2nd question.

04-12-2002, 08:17 PM	#5
Jessfm Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 110	Ah TiTch- at least pass the correct information over. We were not talking about a Duron, more like a CPu thats kicking out Over 120W. This is continuation thread. and what i could not post there due the constraints of the forum, I can here. You will find all the relevent data you require for the 220W units and 172W tec's over HERE . I also never slammed you - and you certainly have not learned anything if all you do is troll one forum , to just gather bits of information to post in another. I sugest you do some real work of your own. hi btw chaps

04-13-2002, 06:33 AM	#8
TiTch Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: London, UK. Posts: 64	Sorry, got dyslexia so my spelling can be interesting at times __________________ www.gibtek.co.uk

04-13-2002, 09:15 AM	#9
Jessfm Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 110	Hey titch, I seen it lots of times before - ppl trolling BBS's and Boards to quote information in another thread - you can spot it a mile off Google is such a wounderful tool for the those with no experience. As i said i thought you were interested in the facts & figures as you expressed over at OCS -I just found an oppertunity to cut through the political crap that most Uk forums suffer from about linking competitors - and maybe help you out with the TEC information surrounding the 220W units, comparisons to other TEC's & how they perform in systems. What it realy takes to get a High end AMD rig sub zero with a single TEC and some idea's of the costs involved. If i ever use other ppls to help me prove a point I make it very clear where I attained the information - thats etiquette. As for manners - I can't see where I have been impolite .

08-20-2002, 11:56 AM	#10
cmfic Banned Troll Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Central Washington State Posts: 26	it never fails I left Hardware Central because this sme sort of shit was taking place but much worse. Are we all not here to learn and teach and have a good time as well. Please do so!!!!!!!!! Thanks John

08-21-2002, 05:39 PM	#12
JimS Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Connecticut Posts: 140	Sounds to me like the guy came here to get a second opinion. Also sounds like the other guy did not like the fact that this second opinion was correct and that it conflicts with his own opinion. Subzero with TEC's are possible, I know this because I have done it. And not with a Duron. Me thinks someone needs to look up the meaning of "troll". While you're at it, check out "humility".

08-21-2002, 05:51 PM	#13
Jessfm Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 110	Jesus - get off guys, this threads like 4 months old. if you don't know the "other" thread - that yo uwont understand. No one said you can't get a duron sub zero ffs

08-27-2002, 01:13 AM	#14
cmfic Banned Troll Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: North Central Washington State Posts: 26	Think Think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-27-2002, 12:25 PM	#15
Brians256 Pro/Staff Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Klamath Falls, OR Posts: 1,439	I think the technical content of the question has been answered. Anything further is just obnoxious noise blaming one person or another. Agreed? Good luck, TiTch. Thread is locked to avoid more flamage.

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