Will the maze 3 work for me? (fitting issue)

icel0rd · 09-20-2002, 03:12 PM

Hey gang, I wound up getting a Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW+ (or -p) board and I noticed that the barrage of capacitors around the CPU sockets are kind of close to the stock HSFs. I'm wondering if this block is going to fit over the socket without hitting the capacitors.

If that block is considerably wider than the stock HSF, then I can't see it working out. They looked a little larger than stock HSFs and rectangular.

Anyway, here is the mobo I'm talking about getting blocks for:

http://www.zdnet.de/techexpert/artik...mpx_16-wc.html

What do you guys think ?

Ice

SCompRacer · 09-21-2002, 08:08 AM

I don't have any hands on with the Gigabyte, but can tell you that the Maze3's extend about 3/8" from the side with and opposite of the CPU socket latch and the block is even with the CPU socket tabs opposite the step.

From the photo it looks like your good to go, but sometimes you don't know until you slip one on, then you may have to relieve it slightly. The Northbridge fan might be close to the edge of the block.

I've noticed duallies have more SMD's around the HSF mount holes, so be alert and use nylon washers as spacers where needed. I have had to trim the washers to clear SMD's on some boards.

The studs and nuts that have washers under them can interfere with the CPU socket levers on some boards too, so you may need to lock the CPU in before installing the studs.

icel0rd · 10-22-2002, 11:22 AM

Ok, I went ahead and grabbed a maze 3 block, and I just realized that I don't have any mounting holes for the block. To drill, or not to drill, that is the question.....

Anyone have a maze 3 and use some other mounting method besides the mounting holes? I'm afraid to drill some holes in my new mobo, and I wonder if there are "safe" areas around the sockets where no circuit traces are under the wafer board to drill the holes.

I'd just like to keep the risk of killing an expensive, and currently working mobo to a minimum if I can. I just can't tell if there might be something in between the wafer somewhere that you don't want to sever. I doubt it, but I'd like a second opinion before I drill through an expensive board or maybe a mounting alternative.

Anybody else have luck with drilling and also, anyone else have bad luck with it? lol

Thanks

Ice

pHaestus · 10-22-2002, 11:52 AM

As a general rule, drilling into PCB is a bad idea

Are there solder covered holes, or actual PCB?

icel0rd · 10-22-2002, 12:15 PM

Hm, they just might be solder covered holes, but I'm going to check again when I get back home.

I see photos of the same board and it has holes for mounting... I'm going to take a closer look at it later on tonight.

I didn't have it in front of me when I posted the distress beacon, but I'd swear that there were no holes because I remember checking... Before I go on anymore about this, I'm going to look again closely.

If they are solder covered, do you think it's safe to open the holes? That may be why I didn't see them. I guess any other drilling is out of the question.

Ice

pHaestus · 10-22-2002, 12:22 PM

Others have drilled out solder-filled holes on the Asus. Use a drill press! Someone in Chat managed to mangle a board pretty badly with a hand drill. Amazingly, it worked afterwards.

icel0rd · 10-23-2002, 10:03 AM

Mission accomplished. I drilled the solder out and the board still works!

Time to setup everything tonight and test for leaks now. Thanks pHaestus.

-Ice-

09-20-2002, 03:12 PM	#1
icel0rd Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Where even the devil wont go Posts: 103	Will the maze 3 work for me? (fitting issue) Hey gang, I wound up getting a Gigabyte GA-7DPXDW+ (or -p) board and I noticed that the barrage of capacitors around the CPU sockets are kind of close to the stock HSFs. I'm wondering if this block is going to fit over the socket without hitting the capacitors. If that block is considerably wider than the stock HSF, then I can't see it working out. They looked a little larger than stock HSFs and rectangular. Anyway, here is the mobo I'm talking about getting blocks for: http://www.zdnet.de/techexpert/artik...mpx_16-wc.html What do you guys think ? Ice __________________ Redhat 8 Gigabyte GA-7dpxdw+ w/dual modded AXP 1800+ CPUs running at AXP 2000+ speed 1 512 meg crucial ECC DDR 2100 1 512 meg Infineon PC2700 Sblive Value Geforce 4 Ti4600 Deskstar 60 gig drive (1)K4.1 waterblock (.5" barbs) (1) Maze 3 waterblock (.5" barbs) Black Ice Rad TopFin 250gph pump 1/2" OD Vinyl hose (yep, vinyl)

09-21-2002, 08:08 AM	#2
SCompRacer Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 94	I don't have any hands on with the Gigabyte, but can tell you that the Maze3's extend about 3/8" from the side with and opposite of the CPU socket latch and the block is even with the CPU socket tabs opposite the step. From the photo it looks like your good to go, but sometimes you don't know until you slip one on, then you may have to relieve it slightly. The Northbridge fan might be close to the edge of the block. I've noticed duallies have more SMD's around the HSF mount holes, so be alert and use nylon washers as spacers where needed. I have had to trim the washers to clear SMD's on some boards. The studs and nuts that have washers under them can interfere with the CPU socket levers on some boards too, so you may need to lock the CPU in before installing the studs. Last edited by SCompRacer; 09-21-2002 at 08:18 AM.

10-22-2002, 11:22 AM	#3
icel0rd Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Where even the devil wont go Posts: 103	Ok, I went ahead and grabbed a maze 3 block, and I just realized that I don't have any mounting holes for the block. To drill, or not to drill, that is the question..... Anyone have a maze 3 and use some other mounting method besides the mounting holes? I'm afraid to drill some holes in my new mobo, and I wonder if there are "safe" areas around the sockets where no circuit traces are under the wafer board to drill the holes. I'd just like to keep the risk of killing an expensive, and currently working mobo to a minimum if I can. I just can't tell if there might be something in between the wafer somewhere that you don't want to sever. I doubt it, but I'd like a second opinion before I drill through an expensive board or maybe a mounting alternative. Anybody else have luck with drilling and also, anyone else have bad luck with it? lol Thanks Ice __________________ Redhat 8 Gigabyte GA-7dpxdw+ w/dual modded AXP 1800+ CPUs running at AXP 2000+ speed 1 512 meg crucial ECC DDR 2100 1 512 meg Infineon PC2700 Sblive Value Geforce 4 Ti4600 Deskstar 60 gig drive (1)K4.1 waterblock (.5" barbs) (1) Maze 3 waterblock (.5" barbs) Black Ice Rad TopFin 250gph pump 1/2" OD Vinyl hose (yep, vinyl)

10-22-2002, 12:15 PM	#5
icel0rd Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Where even the devil wont go Posts: 103	Hm, they just might be solder covered holes, but I'm going to check again when I get back home. I see photos of the same board and it has holes for mounting... I'm going to take a closer look at it later on tonight. I didn't have it in front of me when I posted the distress beacon, but I'd swear that there were no holes because I remember checking... Before I go on anymore about this, I'm going to look again closely. If they are solder covered, do you think it's safe to open the holes? That may be why I didn't see them. I guess any other drilling is out of the question. Ice __________________ Redhat 8 Gigabyte GA-7dpxdw+ w/dual modded AXP 1800+ CPUs running at AXP 2000+ speed 1 512 meg crucial ECC DDR 2100 1 512 meg Infineon PC2700 Sblive Value Geforce 4 Ti4600 Deskstar 60 gig drive (1)K4.1 waterblock (.5" barbs) (1) Maze 3 waterblock (.5" barbs) Black Ice Rad TopFin 250gph pump 1/2" OD Vinyl hose (yep, vinyl)

10-23-2002, 10:03 AM	#7
icel0rd Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Where even the devil wont go Posts: 103	Mission accomplished. I drilled the solder out and the board still works! Time to setup everything tonight and test for leaks now. Thanks pHaestus. -Ice- __________________ Redhat 8 Gigabyte GA-7dpxdw+ w/dual modded AXP 1800+ CPUs running at AXP 2000+ speed 1 512 meg crucial ECC DDR 2100 1 512 meg Infineon PC2700 Sblive Value Geforce 4 Ti4600 Deskstar 60 gig drive (1)K4.1 waterblock (.5" barbs) (1) Maze 3 waterblock (.5" barbs) Black Ice Rad TopFin 250gph pump 1/2" OD Vinyl hose (yep, vinyl)

10-22-2002, 11:52 AM	#4
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	As a general rule, drilling into PCB is a bad idea Are there solder covered holes, or actual PCB?

10-22-2002, 12:22 PM	#6
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Others have drilled out solder-filled holes on the Asus. Use a drill press! Someone in Chat managed to mangle a board pretty badly with a hand drill. Amazingly, it worked afterwards.

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