Pump failing?!?!? MCP600

shyet · 05-19-2004, 01:53 PM

I was running Prime95 to test the stability of my new 2400+ Mobile. When I looked at MBM5 it showed my CPU temp at 59C!! One minute later, my computer shuts off (I have it set to shut off at 60C). This is at 1.45Volts!!!! Prime95 was running for about 10 to 15 minutes.

I thought maybe I didn't mount the waterblock correctly until I felt it. The waterblock was burning hot! With my 2400+(desktop) at 2.03V, the waterblock would feel a little warm.

Was my pump not (MCP600) not working? I couldn't tell if the pump was on or not because I can't hear the pump with my side panel closed. But when I felt the pump, it felt cold. It usually gets warm.

Anyway, when I turned my PC back on, everything seems fine. CPU tems is 36C Load.

What happened here? Did the pump not turn on? Why wouldn't it? Could it be my power supply? I hope it's the not the pump.

kronchev · 05-19-2004, 10:33 PM

how is the power set up for the pump? its completly plausable that it didnt turn on if you have some relay setup, or maybe the power cable was loose if you have just separate cables? honestly Id watch it, if this happens again WHILE ITS DEFINITLY running, you better return that pump.

killernoodle · 05-19-2004, 10:52 PM

You might have one of the naughty defective ones.... but it would have broken already...

JokerCPoC · 05-19-2004, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronchev

how is the power set up for the pump? its completly plausable that it didnt turn on if you have some relay setup, or maybe the power cable was loose if you have just separate cables? honestly Id watch it, if this happens again WHILE ITS DEFINITLY running, you better return that pump.

He has a Swiftech MCP-600 12vdc pump, So a 120vac relay would not be needed.

I mean I've never heard of a 12v pump relay or even the need for one. But Yeah It could be going bad or The cable could be It, As 12v cables sometimes do go bad, Like an unseen break in the wires on one cable, Try another one first.

kronchev · 05-20-2004, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by zoom314

He has a Swiftech MCP-600 12vdc pump, So a 120vac relay would not be needed.

I mean I've never heard of a 12v pump relay or even the need for one. But Yeah It could be going bad or The cable could be It, As 12v cables sometimes do go bad, Like an unseen break in the wires on one cable, Try another one first.

sorry I dont pay attention to 12v pumps. A cable sounds like it might be the problem, esp since it corrected itself after you took the case apart (knocked something in place?) happens to harddrives all the time

shyet · 05-20-2004, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kronchev

sorry I dont pay attention to 12v pumps. A cable sounds like it might be the problem, esp since it corrected itself after you took the case apart (knocked something in place?) happens to harddrives all the time

So far it didnt happen again. So I should plug it in another molex connector?

killernoodle · 05-20-2004, 12:24 PM

Sounds like a plan

MadHacker · 05-20-2004, 12:41 PM

Try wiggling the wires around and see if the pump powers down…
I have had bad Molex connections in the past and that usually located the bad connection for me

JokerCPoC · 05-20-2004, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadHacker

Try wiggling the wires around and see if the pump powers down…
I have had bad Molex connections in the past and that usually located the bad connection for me

Me too, I guess that's why there are so many on the good psus, Where as on the cheap ones You may only get a few cables.

shyet · 05-20-2004, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadHacker

Try wiggling the wires around and see if the pump powers down…
I have had bad Molex connections in the past and that usually located the bad connection for me

I WIGGLED THE WIRE AND THE PUMP TURNED OFF!!! THANKS GUYS!

Meethoss · 05-20-2004, 03:28 PM

Well then that shows what your problem is. Stop complaining in caps and buy a decent PSU or learn how to fit a cable correctly. If you're still having problems then secure it in with something!

MadHacker · 05-20-2004, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Meethoss

Well then that shows what your problem is. Stop complaining in caps and buy a decent PSU or learn how to fit a cable correctly. If you're still having problems then secure it in with something!

Take it easy Meethoss...
shyet is just excited that he has a loose cable ... not a Pump failing problem...
and is expressing it in caps... you have never had a Molex connector not connect properly before?

shyet · 05-20-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meethoss

Well then that shows what your problem is. Stop complaining in caps and buy a decent PSU or learn how to fit a cable correctly. If you're still having problems then secure it in with something!

What the **** is your problem? I was just trying to say that I was very thankful you ****ing piece of shit.

This is why I harldy make any posts, because of ****ers like you.

BillA · 05-20-2004, 04:43 PM

now I understand
H has been down 2 weeks ??
is that where these clowns are coming from ?

a dozen posts for a molex ?
jeez
aint no procooling here

Meethoss · 05-20-2004, 05:08 PM

shyet - to me your post looked like you were blaming these guys for telling you to wiggle the molex, as most people use caps for abusive purposes, and I was simply standing up for them. If you can't communicate in a proper manner then take your foul mouthed mind somewhere else.

Cptn. Foo Foo · 05-20-2004, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered

now I understand
H has been down 2 weeks ??
is that where these clowns are coming from ?

a dozen posts for a molex ?
jeez
aint no procooling here

Hehehehe

MadHacker · 05-20-2004, 05:17 PM

Mebe BillA has someting there...
all these non ProCooling questions...
mebe i should start a non procooling forum...
I got an idea for the website name...
dell.com... opps already taken

BillA · 05-20-2004, 05:31 PM

the questions were ok, but the thoughtless reps ?
then the ***** bs,
just pulled my trigger (when I should have ignored it all)
bleh

shyet · 05-20-2004, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unregistered

now I understand
H has been down 2 weeks ??
is that where these clowns are coming from ?

a dozen posts for a molex ?
jeez
aint no procooling here

I've never had a problem with a molex connector before, so sorry for posting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meethoss

shyet - to me your post looked like you were blaming these guys for telling you to wiggle the molex, as most people use caps for abusive purposes, and I was simply standing up for them. If you can't communicate in a proper manner then take your foul mouthed mind somewhere else.

Will do.

BillA · 05-20-2004, 06:11 PM

shyet
have you seen a mil spec connector ? (eBay)
gold plated pins, RIGID body, screw engagement, o-ring, safety wire tangs
know why ?

r e l i a b i l i t y

everything a (molex type) power connector is not
connections are ALWAYS the weak point

wshost.Shorty · 05-20-2004, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meethoss

shyet - to me your post looked like you were blaming these guys for telling you to wiggle the molex

Thats what it looked like to me too. lol @ BillA's comment.

jaydee · 05-20-2004, 07:31 PM

Shows how difficult it is to interpret somethings on the internet. I took his comments as "Yeah, that is the problem, thanks for your help!

" .

Anyway looks like the cause of the problem is found, now to fix the problem.

MadHacker · 05-20-2004, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaydee116

Shows how difficult it is to interpret somethings on the internet. I took his comments as "Yeah, that is the problem, thanks for your help!

" .

that is how I saw it as well...

Capt. Nemo · 05-21-2004, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaydee116

Shows how difficult it is to interpret somethings on the internet. I took his comments as "Yeah, that is the problem, thanks for your help!

".

That is the way I see it as well.

Groth · 05-21-2004, 10:04 AM

This thread has turned into a geek Rorschack test -- the easily offended, the defensive, the peacemakers, etc. And of course, the ironically detached psychoanalysts.

05-19-2004, 01:53 PM	#1
shyet Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 24	Pump failing?!?!? MCP600 I was running Prime95 to test the stability of my new 2400+ Mobile. When I looked at MBM5 it showed my CPU temp at 59C!! One minute later, my computer shuts off (I have it set to shut off at 60C). This is at 1.45Volts!!!! Prime95 was running for about 10 to 15 minutes. I thought maybe I didn't mount the waterblock correctly until I felt it. The waterblock was burning hot! With my 2400+(desktop) at 2.03V, the waterblock would feel a little warm. Was my pump not (MCP600) not working? I couldn't tell if the pump was on or not because I can't hear the pump with my side panel closed. But when I felt the pump, it felt cold. It usually gets warm. Anyway, when I turned my PC back on, everything seems fine. CPU tems is 36C Load. What happened here? Did the pump not turn on? Why wouldn't it? Could it be my power supply? I hope it's the not the pump. Last edited by shyet; 05-19-2004 at 10:09 PM.

05-19-2004, 10:33 PM	#2
kronchev Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ Posts: 254	how is the power set up for the pump? its completly plausable that it didnt turn on if you have some relay setup, or maybe the power cable was loose if you have just separate cables? honestly Id watch it, if this happens again WHILE ITS DEFINITLY running, you better return that pump. __________________ Ghetto riggin'!

05-19-2004, 10:52 PM	#3
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	You might have one of the naughty defective ones.... but it would have broken already... __________________ I have a nice computer.

05-20-2004, 12:24 PM	#7
killernoodle Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 1,014	Sounds like a plan __________________ I have a nice computer.

05-20-2004, 12:41 PM	#8
MadHacker Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Okotoks, A.B. Canada Posts: 726	Try wiggling the wires around and see if the pump powers down… I have had bad Molex connections in the past and that usually located the bad connection for me __________________ "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - (Einstein)

05-20-2004, 03:28 PM	#11
Meethoss Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 188	Well then that shows what your problem is. Stop complaining in caps and buy a decent PSU or learn how to fit a cable correctly. If you're still having problems then secure it in with something! __________________ Meethoss

05-20-2004, 04:43 PM	#14
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	now I understand H has been down 2 weeks ?? is that where these clowns are coming from ? a dozen posts for a molex ? jeez aint no procooling here

05-20-2004, 05:08 PM	#15
Meethoss Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 188	shyet - to me your post looked like you were blaming these guys for telling you to wiggle the molex, as most people use caps for abusive purposes, and I was simply standing up for them. If you can't communicate in a proper manner then take your foul mouthed mind somewhere else. __________________ Meethoss

05-20-2004, 05:17 PM	#17
MadHacker Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: Okotoks, A.B. Canada Posts: 726	Mebe BillA has someting there... all these non ProCooling questions... mebe i should start a non procooling forum... I got an idea for the website name... dell.com... opps already taken __________________ "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds" - (Einstein)

05-20-2004, 05:31 PM	#18
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	the questions were ok, but the thoughtless reps ? then the ***** bs, just pulled my trigger (when I should have ignored it all) bleh

05-20-2004, 06:11 PM	#20
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	shyet have you seen a mil spec connector ? (eBay) gold plated pins, RIGID body, screw engagement, o-ring, safety wire tangs know why ? r e l i a b i l i t y everything a (molex type) power connector is not connections are ALWAYS the weak point

05-20-2004, 07:31 PM	#22
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Shows how difficult it is to interpret somethings on the internet. I took his comments as "Yeah, that is the problem, thanks for your help! " . Anyway looks like the cause of the problem is found, now to fix the problem.

05-21-2004, 10:04 AM	#25
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	This thread has turned into a geek Rorschack test -- the easily offended, the defensive, the peacemakers, etc. And of course, the ironically detached psychoanalysts.

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