Idea For Cooling

DodgeViper · 02-09-2002, 10:20 AM

Here is something for all water-cooling addicts to think about including myself. Now granted this idea is not cost efficient, but for those that do not want a radiator, or loud fans maybe this idea is for you.

We all know that the ambient air temp within your home controls the temps of your computer. Trying to keep the ambient temp within the home at an even temperature is tough to do especially in Arizona when it can get to 120 degree’s outside.

Here in Arizona we have thought of many ways to keep cool and to use the sun to heat. Now I can only speak for those that live in the southern part of Arizona, but it’s a known fact that 6’ below the surface of the ground the temperature year round is a constant 72 degrees. Many homes are being built into the foothills with only the front of the home facing south to gather heat. The rest of the home is underground.

Now you’re wondering what this has to do with water-cooling a computer. If a person were to place a 100’ coil of 1/2” copper tubing 6’ below the surface, and use a Little Giant pump that can handle the rise you would have water-cooling that would never fluctuate.

redleader · 02-09-2002, 11:13 AM

Blade did that with his comp, but he lives in Northern Europe IIRC.

Its one thing to build underground and use the cool soil as insulation (I hear this is really popular in Yuma where summer temps have been know to hit 50C), but its another thing to actively pump heat into the soil. Theres little mosture here in Tucson below the soil. Without it heat could build up over the months and gradually saturate the cooler. I have to wonder if the soil alone would be enough to conduct the heat away.

DodgeViper · 02-09-2002, 11:22 AM

Redleader, I live in Tucson. During the hot summer days try turning on the tap water and feel how cool the water is in relation to the surface temps are. Remember these pipes are only a few feet below the surface.

Brad · 02-10-2002, 05:57 AM

yeah blade did that with a large propane tank in the ground. i think you'd need some fairly large resivoir in there to help keep temperatures constant

Jim · 02-10-2002, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by DodgeViper
Redleader, I live in Tucson. During the hot summer days try turning on the tap water and feel how cool the water is in relation to the surface temps are. Remember these pipes are only a few feet below the surface.

I think I follow you; yes I have considered burying my computer several times, but only after I shot the crap out of it!

Seriously, I had thought about setting my heater core with fans in the basement, but decided against it due to line lengths and problems if it needed to be moved. I supposed quick disconnects would solve this problem though.

Jim

gmat · 02-11-2002, 10:42 AM

Yep Jim, that's exactly what i planned as well. Mount the rad/res/pump/fans/noisy cooling stuff on a little wheel cart, and use long steel-braided hoses with quick disconnects.
The cart has wheels so it can be moved fairly easily

(to LAN parties for example...) so make sure you've got quick disconnects on both your PC *and* the cart. And bring shorter hoses to LAN parties. Heh.

dantheman · 02-11-2002, 10:48 PM

That will not work for me. I live in san antonio, and to dig down 3 inches, you hit solid rock. You go a bit further (100 ft or so) and you should hit the aquifer. hmm, I bet I could drop a pipe into that. *dreams*

02-09-2002, 10:20 AM	#1
DodgeViper Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 204	Idea For Cooling Here is something for all water-cooling addicts to think about including myself. Now granted this idea is not cost efficient, but for those that do not want a radiator, or loud fans maybe this idea is for you. We all know that the ambient air temp within your home controls the temps of your computer. Trying to keep the ambient temp within the home at an even temperature is tough to do especially in Arizona when it can get to 120 degree’s outside. Here in Arizona we have thought of many ways to keep cool and to use the sun to heat. Now I can only speak for those that live in the southern part of Arizona, but it’s a known fact that 6’ below the surface of the ground the temperature year round is a constant 72 degrees. Many homes are being built into the foothills with only the front of the home facing south to gather heat. The rest of the home is underground. Now you’re wondering what this has to do with water-cooling a computer. If a person were to place a 100’ coil of 1/2” copper tubing 6’ below the surface, and use a Little Giant pump that can handle the rise you would have water-cooling that would never fluctuate.

02-09-2002, 11:13 AM	#2
redleader Thermophile Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The deserts of Tucson, Az Posts: 1,264	Blade did that with his comp, but he lives in Northern Europe IIRC. Its one thing to build underground and use the cool soil as insulation (I hear this is really popular in Yuma where summer temps have been know to hit 50C), but its another thing to actively pump heat into the soil. Theres little mosture here in Tucson below the soil. Without it heat could build up over the months and gradually saturate the cooler. I have to wonder if the soil alone would be enough to conduct the heat away. Last edited by redleader; 02-09-2002 at 11:16 AM.

02-10-2002, 05:57 AM	#4
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	yeah blade did that with a large propane tank in the ground. i think you'd need some fairly large resivoir in there to help keep temperatures constant __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

02-09-2002, 11:22 AM	#3
DodgeViper Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 204	Redleader, I live in Tucson. During the hot summer days try turning on the tap water and feel how cool the water is in relation to the surface temps are. Remember these pipes are only a few feet below the surface.

02-11-2002, 10:42 AM	#6
gmat Thermophile Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,221	Yep Jim, that's exactly what i planned as well. Mount the rad/res/pump/fans/noisy cooling stuff on a little wheel cart, and use long steel-braided hoses with quick disconnects. The cart has wheels so it can be moved fairly easily (to LAN parties for example...) so make sure you've got quick disconnects on both your PC and the cart. And bring shorter hoses to LAN parties. Heh.

02-11-2002, 10:48 PM	#7
dantheman Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 152	That will not work for me. I live in san antonio, and to dig down 3 inches, you hit solid rock. You go a bit further (100 ft or so) and you should hit the aquifer. hmm, I bet I could drop a pipe into that. dreams

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