Fixiit did you see this?????????

ambient · 03-13-2002, 09:23 AM

Saw this on overclockers this morning.
www.overclockers.com/articles546/
would've been nice to see how the spri@l does against the other sprial.

Here's a quote " I contacted DTEK Customs, the people who market the Spir@l Block (cute name) but they chose not to reply to my email"

Including myself I have 4 people that would love to purchase your block. hmmmmmmmmmmm..... to bad you still can't order them

maybe some day

ambient · 03-13-2002, 03:52 PM

bump

Fixittt · 03-13-2002, 04:46 PM

Yeah he did contact Danny at D-tek, but he is having email problems. We got a block ready to sendto him, and Danny emailed him back, but I guess it wasto late. OH well

As far as the Gemini block, When he first came out with the block, We talked. I told him there were a few things I would like to see from him, then I would be more then happy to see him produce his blocks that look SOOOOOOOO CLOSE to the SPIR@L that its uncanny. he seemed like a nice guy, and we aggreeded upon cross shipping blocks to each other to review and check out. I wanted to seehow it would preform and so on. I also had a few other "REQUESTS" and NONE were met.

I am beginning to feel like I was ripped off. Not to mention USED, and Screwed over.

I can tell you this, I am a nice guy and would bend over backwards to help someone out, Untill I feel screwed. And that I do. So... I will see what I can do about this matter.

Needless to say, IM PISSED OFF!

Jim · 03-13-2002, 04:58 PM

Does anyone know why the Spir@l from D-Tek is so back logged? I would like to try one.

Fixittt , sorry about your situation, sounds unfair. Now I understand what you were stating when the Gemini image went up here on the forum.

In addition thanks for the suggestion you made about the air being trapped in my Maze2, I changed the "T" location and my temps dropped about 3C.

I used the drawing "cycozcrap " was kind enough to create for a model and it worked out well. Thanks to him also.

Jim

Fixittt · 03-13-2002, 05:39 PM

They Spir@ls are so back logged because I make them myself. Its my hobby, and I am only one man. But we (Danny at d-tek) have contacted a machine shop and got some really good looking quotes. It looks like they will be mass produced. (Some design changes in effect as well)

ambient · 03-13-2002, 06:26 PM

That's great. I will be buying one of your blocks when they come in to supply. Hope all goes well getting them mass produced.

Cyco-Dude · 03-13-2002, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jim
In addition thanks for the suggestion you made about the air being trapped in my Maze2, I changed the "T" location and my temps dropped about 3C.

I used the drawing "cycozcrap " was kind enough to create for a model and it worked out well. Thanks to him also.

Jim

hehe, np

Fixittt, keep us posted on how that develops!

Jim · 03-13-2002, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyco-Dude

hehe, np

CYCO-DUDE

I don't know how I got "cycocrap" (LMAO) from "Cycodude" but I am sorry about that! Really!

Hey, "cycocrap" was at the bottom of the page I printed off your website with the drawing I mentioned earlier.

Yikes, everybody must think I'm crazy!
Jim

Jim · 03-13-2002, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
They Spir@ls are so back logged because I make them myself. Its my hobby, and I am only one man. But we (Danny at d-tek) have contacted a machine shop and got some really good looking quotes. It looks like they will be mass produced. (Some design changes in effect as well)

OK. Now I got the story straight, I'll be listening here for availabilty through D-tek.

Jim

Cyco-Dude · 03-13-2002, 09:37 PM

lol, cycozcrap is just the name of the website :P

Brad · 03-14-2002, 12:10 AM

It's interesting to see the two geminis performed the same, it'd be interesting to see a billa style setup with differant flow rates in them (and the other 4 blocks too)

GeminiCool · 03-14-2002, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fixittt
Yeah he did contact Danny at D-tek, but he is having email problems. We got a block ready to sendto him, and Danny emailed him back, but I guess it wasto late. OH well

As far as the Gemini block, When he first came out with the block, We talked. I told him there were a few things I would like to see from him, then I would be more then happy to see him produce his blocks that look SOOOOOOOO CLOSE to the SPIR@L that its uncanny. he seemed like a nice guy, and we aggreeded upon cross shipping blocks to each other to review and check out. I wanted to seehow it would preform and so on. I also had a few other "REQUESTS" and NONE were met.

I am beginning to feel like I was ripped off. Not to mention USED, and Screwed over.

I can tell you this, I am a nice guy and would bend over backwards to help someone out, Untill I feel screwed. And that I do. So... I will see what I can do about this matter.

Needless to say, IM PISSED OFF!

I called Fixitt the day after he notified me by e-mail about his block. We talked for about 45 minutes on the phone. At the end of the conversation I was going to proceed with my design, and also quote him a price for manufacturing his design.

1 Week later I had seen no drawings of his design. I proceed to email Fixitt concerning this issue and also to alert him that I was entering the Gemini blocks into a head to head competition performed by John at overclockers.

On 2/14 Fixitt responded. I was contacted by Fixitt saying that he would like to exchange blocks. Admittedly, I did not respond to this email. I was extremely busy with my own product and also my three kids.

Now I see Fixitt talking very badly about me and Gemini. Gemini is a small Job shop. I had an idea to design a great water cooling block. Obviously, bring the cool water into the center and go outward. The spiral was a natural solution. I stole nothing. Our blocks are very different. They only look similar

I am willing to assist Fixitt in bringing his design to market, in whatever way I can. I am not willing to modify my design, because it is backed up by solid engineering. I would be happy to provide Fixitt a quotation on however many blocks he'd like to have Gemini manufacture.

That is the truth,

Peter.

Fixittt · 03-14-2002, 03:34 PM

Ok guys, I am printing a retraction.

I was thinking about what I was about to become and what I would like to see the "Industry" become and they were 2 totally different things. I didnt like it. I am not a crazed a$$ hole that wants everything for himself.

I just got off the phone with Peter. Called him to basicly say I was sorry for all this mess. He is a great guy and we have descided to work together. His block is totally tageted towards a different group of water cooler. This I understand now. There will be no legal action sought out. Instead Our idea is to create a one stop shopping for water cooling. He is going to send me some samples of his blocks and I will compare them to mine. Not to mention take lots of pics and point out what is different. I think it will be god to see them sitting side by side, as a stand alone pic does not give a good indacation of the size or dementions of anything.

So I want to say im sorry to all of the forum readers for blowing my top. Isnt it amazing what stress will get you!!!!!! "NOTHING" but a bad addatude.

I have never been one to blast someone or there products (except for that z4

), and I think most of U guys know that. And I dont want to become the guy who throws a hissy fit anytime something happens.

Its better to work with someone, then to waste efforts trying to work against someone.

decodeddiesel · 03-14-2002, 03:41 PM

Now, that was appropriate for a public forum. I am glad to see everything was worked out in a civil maner guys. I hope to see great things from both of you in the future.

Jim · 03-14-2002, 04:15 PM

Fixittt-

Well said, something cool is likely to come out of this.

Jim

Xel · 03-14-2002, 04:21 PM

The thing I find most interesting is that the 1/4 tubing waterblock (normal block) performs better than the 3/8 tubing waterblock.

#Rotor · 03-14-2002, 05:08 PM

hmmm another block shootout.... Nice....

so many too choose from ..

Fixittt · 03-14-2002, 06:05 PM

Rotor... I love the avatar man!!!!!!

sunblade · 03-14-2002, 06:59 PM

So many mill avatars! I must fight back

Prepare for my evil, mutated, linux notebook, lol!

I'm glad to see that fixittt and gemini got everything sorted out. Personally, I like both blocks. It's nice that the watercooler market is small enough for disputes to be settled outside of court.

Fixittt · 03-14-2002, 07:07 PM

SUNBLADE!!! that is an AWFULL AVATAR! why waiste a good note book on UNIX? (Ducking flames!)

also I should point out that #ROTOR`s avatar is not a mill, but a drill press. SO THERE!

sunblade · 03-14-2002, 07:37 PM

I have you now fixittt! /*pulls out flame thrower*/

GNU/Linux isn't Unix because GNU = GNU is NOT UNIX! Ahhhhhh HA!

Actually, a mill/press would be kinda cool, but, ummmm, $$$

#Rotor · 03-14-2002, 07:47 PM

and a very cheap one at that too....

Fixittt · 03-14-2002, 07:51 PM

it looks like the $60 drill press I have in my garage, except that I had to MOD mine, U know me, nothing is ever stock! I had a 6 foot tall pipe made for my little desktop drill press, not its Taller! No more limit on bigger parts that I might want to drill. I also have a small machinist vise on the drill press. It has the x and y axis crank handels on the vise, so I dont have to re postion the part after drilling, I can just crank the hendles to the next desired location

sunblade · 03-14-2002, 09:54 PM

Wow, a drill-press for under $100? I guess I was way off :shrug:

Maybe I'll reconcider. A custom waterblock WOULD be rather fun. How about a block with a penguin shaped channel, dual 3/8th inch barbs for input at the feet and a single 1/2" barb for output at the head. Oh, look at what this forum has done to me!

WebMasta33 · 03-14-2002, 09:59 PM

Here's my drill press

The ability to do angular cuts (it's a radial drill press) is awsome. I could drill out angled barbs and channels.

03-13-2002, 09:23 AM	#1
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	Fixiit did you see this????????? Saw this on overclockers this morning. www.overclockers.com/articles546/ would've been nice to see how the spri@l does against the other sprial. Here's a quote " I contacted DTEK Customs, the people who market the Spir@l Block (cute name) but they chose not to reply to my email" Including myself I have 4 people that would love to purchase your block. hmmmmmmmmmmm..... to bad you still can't order them maybe some day __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

03-13-2002, 03:52 PM	#2
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	bump __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

03-13-2002, 04:46 PM	#3
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	Yeah he did contact Danny at D-tek, but he is having email problems. We got a block ready to sendto him, and Danny emailed him back, but I guess it wasto late. OH well As far as the Gemini block, When he first came out with the block, We talked. I told him there were a few things I would like to see from him, then I would be more then happy to see him produce his blocks that look SOOOOOOOO CLOSE to the SPIR@L that its uncanny. he seemed like a nice guy, and we aggreeded upon cross shipping blocks to each other to review and check out. I wanted to seehow it would preform and so on. I also had a few other "REQUESTS" and NONE were met. I am beginning to feel like I was ripped off. Not to mention USED, and Screwed over. I can tell you this, I am a nice guy and would bend over backwards to help someone out, Untill I feel screwed. And that I do. So... I will see what I can do about this matter. Needless to say, IM PISSED OFF! __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-13-2002, 05:39 PM	#5
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	They Spir@ls are so back logged because I make them myself. Its my hobby, and I am only one man. But we (Danny at d-tek) have contacted a machine shop and got some really good looking quotes. It looks like they will be mass produced. (Some design changes in effect as well) __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-13-2002, 06:26 PM	#6
ambient Cooling Savant Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 312	That's great. I will be buying one of your blocks when they come in to supply. Hope all goes well getting them mass produced. __________________ water cooled 1.4 tbird @ 1580 143x11 vcore 1.88 vio 3.55

03-13-2002, 04:58 PM	#4
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Does anyone know why the Spir@l from D-Tek is so back logged? I would like to try one. Fixittt , sorry about your situation, sounds unfair. Now I understand what you were stating when the Gemini image went up here on the forum. In addition thanks for the suggestion you made about the air being trapped in my Maze2, I changed the "T" location and my temps dropped about 3C. I used the drawing "cycozcrap " was kind enough to create for a model and it worked out well. Thanks to him also. Jim

03-13-2002, 09:37 PM	#10
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	lol, cycozcrap is just the name of the website :P

03-14-2002, 12:10 AM	#11
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	It's interesting to see the two geminis performed the same, it'd be interesting to see a billa style setup with differant flow rates in them (and the other 4 blocks too) __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-14-2002, 03:34 PM	#13
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	Ok guys, I am printing a retraction. I was thinking about what I was about to become and what I would like to see the "Industry" become and they were 2 totally different things. I didnt like it. I am not a crazed a$$ hole that wants everything for himself. I just got off the phone with Peter. Called him to basicly say I was sorry for all this mess. He is a great guy and we have descided to work together. His block is totally tageted towards a different group of water cooler. This I understand now. There will be no legal action sought out. Instead Our idea is to create a one stop shopping for water cooling. He is going to send me some samples of his blocks and I will compare them to mine. Not to mention take lots of pics and point out what is different. I think it will be god to see them sitting side by side, as a stand alone pic does not give a good indacation of the size or dementions of anything. So I want to say im sorry to all of the forum readers for blowing my top. Isnt it amazing what stress will get you!!!!!! "NOTHING" but a bad addatude. I have never been one to blast someone or there products (except for that z4 ), and I think most of U guys know that. And I dont want to become the guy who throws a hissy fit anytime something happens. Its better to work with someone, then to waste efforts trying to work against someone. __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-14-2002, 03:41 PM	#14
decodeddiesel Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: classified Posts: 534	Now, that was appropriate for a public forum. I am glad to see everything was worked out in a civil maner guys. I hope to see great things from both of you in the future. __________________ ...i hurt... do me a favor, disconect me... they can re-work me but i'll never be top of the line again ...i'd rather be nothing...

03-14-2002, 04:15 PM	#15
Jim Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 389	Fixittt- Well said, something cool is likely to come out of this. Jim

03-14-2002, 04:21 PM	#16
Xel Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 46	The thing I find most interesting is that the 1/4 tubing waterblock (normal block) performs better than the 3/8 tubing waterblock.

03-14-2002, 05:08 PM	#17
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	hmmm another block shootout.... Nice.... so many too choose from ..

03-14-2002, 06:05 PM	#18
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	Rotor... I love the avatar man!!!!!! __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-14-2002, 06:59 PM	#19
sunblade Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 156	So many mill avatars! I must fight back Prepare for my evil, mutated, linux notebook, lol! I'm glad to see that fixittt and gemini got everything sorted out. Personally, I like both blocks. It's nice that the watercooler market is small enough for disputes to be settled outside of court. Last edited by sunblade; 03-14-2002 at 07:03 PM.

03-14-2002, 07:07 PM	#20
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	SUNBLADE!!! that is an AWFULL AVATAR! why waiste a good note book on UNIX? (Ducking flames!) also I should point out that #ROTOR`s avatar is not a mill, but a drill press. SO THERE! __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-14-2002, 07:37 PM	#21
sunblade Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 156	I have you now fixittt! /pulls out flame thrower/ GNU/Linux isn't Unix because GNU = GNU is NOT UNIX! Ahhhhhh HA! Actually, a mill/press would be kinda cool, but, ummmm, $$$

03-14-2002, 07:47 PM	#22
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	and a very cheap one at that too....

03-14-2002, 07:51 PM	#23
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	it looks like the $60 drill press I have in my garage, except that I had to MOD mine, U know me, nothing is ever stock! I had a 6 foot tall pipe made for my little desktop drill press, not its Taller! No more limit on bigger parts that I might want to drill. I also have a small machinist vise on the drill press. It has the x and y axis crank handels on the vise, so I dont have to re postion the part after drilling, I can just crank the hendles to the next desired location __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-14-2002, 09:54 PM	#24
sunblade Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: USA Posts: 156	Wow, a drill-press for under $100? I guess I was way off :shrug: Maybe I'll reconcider. A custom waterblock WOULD be rather fun. How about a block with a penguin shaped channel, dual 3/8th inch barbs for input at the feet and a single 1/2" barb for output at the head. Oh, look at what this forum has done to me!

03-14-2002, 09:59 PM	#25
WebMasta33 Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 526	Here's my drill press The ability to do angular cuts (it's a radial drill press) is awsome. I could drill out angled barbs and channels. __________________ ========== --Soyo KT333 DRAGON Ultra (Platinum Edition) --AMD 1.4 @ 1.54 (11x) --768mb of PC2100 (@140FSB) --Asus v8200 GeForce3 @ 210/490 --Maxtor 40gb Quiet + 2 IBM 40gb 60GXPs (removable) + 8gb WD --Audigy --Maze 3, DD Gf3 block, 2x BIX, Eheim1250 ===========

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