Gemini and Spir@l compare PICS

Fixittt · 03-29-2002, 06:00 PM

Well, I got the Gemini blocks in last week. And took my PICS

I have done no testring between the blocks preformance wise, Just Physical size.

These were taken on my pool table (YES I have a POOL table)

ablaze · 03-29-2002, 06:05 PM

ablaze · 03-29-2002, 06:09 PM

wow! i never realised your block was so huge!!

its like what? 3" x 2" x 1"?

Fixittt · 03-29-2002, 06:12 PM

a manly 2.5x3x1

ablaze · 03-29-2002, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by Fixittt
a manly 2.5x3x1

check your pm please..

Cyco-Dude · 03-29-2002, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Fixittt
a manly 2.5x3x1

Fixittt, you block is so huge (ahhahaha, thats what the ladies say right?

)
just need some more roundups of all these blocks...

jaydee · 03-29-2002, 07:03 PM

Wow, the one I am working on will be a cross between all three!!! 1/4" wide 3/8" deep channels, 2"x3"X1/2" block. I will post a pic of it when I get it done. Working out the code now.

Brad · 03-29-2002, 08:41 PM

the spiral just looks so big, the gemini looks like a little toy.

so fix, when can we see performance tests?

jaydee · 03-29-2002, 10:38 PM

Damn, I just ran a pre-run of my Spiral and it is short one loop. I did that because i wanted to use a O ring in the future. I see that Gememi does not use a O ring? I am very curious what he used to seal it. I used clear epoxy on my last block with an acrylic top and it worked good but I am not sure about long term use if that epoxy will slowly wear away. I may just try and add the last loop and epoxy it aswell. Will run the actuall block out in the morning as the code is DONE!!! WoooHooo....

UnaClocker · 03-29-2002, 11:08 PM

Epoxy is too brittle, one bump or simply overtightening the top, and it'll quickly let go. Plumbers goop is great because it remains flexible, to a point. Let's things flex.

jaydee · 03-29-2002, 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by UnaClocker
Epoxy is too brittle, one bump or simply overtightening the top, and it'll quickly let go. Plumbers goop is great because it remains flexible, to a point. Let's things flex.

Plumbers goop dosn't dry clear though(has a cloudy haze to it) which is a must for an acrylic top. Epoxy works fine if you add ascrews for sheer strength which it looks like Gemini did. If you add those screws while the epoxy is wet it makes the bond exellent. But I am still not sure I would go that route. I like the O ring myself. that makes the top removable aswell which is like.

#Rotor · 03-30-2002, 10:18 AM

both do look awesomely delicious

well for lack of that nice mill, on my part, I'm not using an O-ring either, although I have to say, that gives me the ability to optimize the insides of the cavity even better, PG. works better than solder, IMO... if it is applied correctly, getting it to spring a leak.... well ya... I've not yet managed that one....

beside, if you have 2 virtually 100%flat surfaces clamped together, and you add a small amount of sealing flexible substance, the possibility of a leak, at the pressures we are talking about....

jaydee · 03-30-2002, 11:09 AM

Should have added screws to my latest block. This happened at 8:30am this morning.

Haddy · 03-30-2002, 11:23 AM

uht ohhhh...hope the system wuznt on...

jaydee · 03-30-2002, 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by Haddy
uht ohhhh...hope the system wuznt on...

Yeah it was!!! Makes me wonder what Gemini is using as a sealant and if those screws will really work.

mkosem · 03-30-2002, 11:52 AM

uh oh!

--Matt

jaydee · 03-30-2002, 12:12 PM

Well the CPU works just fine!!!! Got it running on the comp I am typing this on. When the Mobo dries out I will drop in mt Spare Duron 700 in it and see if it still works.

Brad · 03-30-2002, 04:11 PM

jaydee, what caused that do you think? vibration, or just a bad seal?

Fixittt · 03-30-2002, 04:15 PM

more like water preassure. I am willing to bet that the force of moving water, and air bubbles in the epoxy caused it. Also acrylic is extremly smooth. There was nothing for the epoxy to grab onto, and nothing keeping even preassure on the top. Notice it is leaking in the middle? Not where the mounting bolts are.

jaydee · 03-30-2002, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Brad
jaydee, what caused that do you think? vibration, or just a bad seal?

What fixitt said basically. The block was never moved once installed and it is sitting horizontal on my testbed so vibration was not an issue. The epoxy just didn't stick to the acrylic. No prob though as nothing was damaged!!! Mobo even works.

Cyco-Dude · 03-30-2002, 05:53 PM

...and who said water and electricity dont mix well? LOL!!
have you tried emailing the guy that makes the gemini blocks? im sure he'ld tell you...

Joe · 03-30-2002, 05:59 PM

Just cause a mother board is green like plants, doesnt mean you should be watering them

jaydee · 03-30-2002, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Joe
Just cause a mother board is green like plants, doesnt mean you should be watering them

Well it was worth a shot, I thought it might grow into a Hammer capable board.

Brad · 03-30-2002, 08:49 PM

ehhh, I'd prefer it to grow a second socket :P

jaydee · 03-30-2002, 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by Brad
ehhh, I'd prefer it to grow a second socket :P

That would work to!!!

03-29-2002, 06:00 PM	#1
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	Gemini and Spir@l compare PICS Well, I got the Gemini blocks in last week. And took my PICS I have done no testring between the blocks preformance wise, Just Physical size. These were taken on my pool table (YES I have a POOL table) __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-29-2002, 06:12 PM	#4
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	a manly 2.5x3x1 __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-29-2002, 08:41 PM	#8
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	the spiral just looks so big, the gemini looks like a little toy. so fix, when can we see performance tests? __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-29-2002, 11:08 PM	#10
UnaClocker Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA Posts: 514	Epoxy is too brittle, one bump or simply overtightening the top, and it'll quickly let go. Plumbers goop is great because it remains flexible, to a point. Let's things flex. __________________ The UnaClocker Watercooler Extraordinaire! Overclock till it goes BOOM!

03-30-2002, 11:52 AM	#16
mkosem Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2001 Location: here Posts: 494	uh oh! --Matt __________________ If you can't cool it, blow it up!! http://www.mattkosem.com

03-29-2002, 06:05 PM	#2
ablaze Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Singapore! Posts: 124

03-29-2002, 06:09 PM	#3
ablaze Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Singapore! Posts: 124	wow! i never realised your block was so huge!! its like what? 3" x 2" x 1"?

03-29-2002, 07:03 PM	#7
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Wow, the one I am working on will be a cross between all three!!! 1/4" wide 3/8" deep channels, 2"x3"X1/2" block. I will post a pic of it when I get it done. Working out the code now.

03-29-2002, 10:38 PM	#9
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Damn, I just ran a pre-run of my Spiral and it is short one loop. I did that because i wanted to use a O ring in the future. I see that Gememi does not use a O ring? I am very curious what he used to seal it. I used clear epoxy on my last block with an acrylic top and it worked good but I am not sure about long term use if that epoxy will slowly wear away. I may just try and add the last loop and epoxy it aswell. Will run the actuall block out in the morning as the code is DONE!!! WoooHooo....

03-30-2002, 10:18 AM	#12
#Rotor Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dione, sector 4s1256 Posts: 852	both do look awesomely delicious well for lack of that nice mill, on my part, I'm not using an O-ring either, although I have to say, that gives me the ability to optimize the insides of the cavity even better, PG. works better than solder, IMO... if it is applied correctly, getting it to spring a leak.... well ya... I've not yet managed that one.... beside, if you have 2 virtually 100%flat surfaces clamped together, and you add a small amount of sealing flexible substance, the possibility of a leak, at the pressures we are talking about....

03-30-2002, 11:09 AM	#13
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Should have added screws to my latest block. This happened at 8:30am this morning.

03-30-2002, 11:23 AM	#14
Haddy Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 434	uht ohhhh...hope the system wuznt on...

03-30-2002, 12:12 PM	#17
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Well the CPU works just fine!!!! Got it running on the comp I am typing this on. When the Mobo dries out I will drop in mt Spare Duron 700 in it and see if it still works.

03-30-2002, 04:11 PM	#18
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	jaydee, what caused that do you think? vibration, or just a bad seal? __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

03-30-2002, 04:15 PM	#19
Fixittt CNC Beyatch Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Tulsa Spell it backwards Posts: 721	more like water preassure. I am willing to bet that the force of moving water, and air bubbles in the epoxy caused it. Also acrylic is extremly smooth. There was nothing for the epoxy to grab onto, and nothing keeping even preassure on the top. Notice it is leaking in the middle? Not where the mounting bolts are. __________________ Creator of the Spir@l Block Longest post ever http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=43808#post43808

03-30-2002, 05:53 PM	#21
Cyco-Dude Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 836	...and who said water and electricity dont mix well? LOL!! have you tried emailing the guy that makes the gemini blocks? im sure he'ld tell you...

03-30-2002, 05:59 PM	#22
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Just cause a mother board is green like plants, doesnt mean you should be watering them __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

03-30-2002, 08:49 PM	#24
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	ehhh, I'd prefer it to grow a second socket :P __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

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