I'am revealing my Super Dream Machine Project, It kicks ASS

[captain]

Its me again.

Here are my plans for my project.

I'am going to mod this system http://www.hardwareoc.com/submersed.php
(I just hope Kevin is wrong when he says that they are never gonna release it due to different problems).

I'am going to put a 172watt TEC on the processor. This Peltier is going to be sealed good so it doesnt warm up the surrounding oil.

The peltier is going to be cooled buy a water cooling system that consists of the following items:

silver waterblock (0,999 thermalconductivity)
Silver coldplate
2 chillers (with 3 80 watt Peltiers each)
Bigmama radiator with 2 120mm fans (cools the peltiers)
2 80 watt peltiers with copperwaterblocks that cools the GPU and Chip

I have done some mathematical equations and I found that with a 100watt CPU I will still have -20 degrees celsius to play with.

Combine this with a Palomino and it will KICK ASSES to mars.

[Kevin]

Hmmm... that's a pretty ambitious project. Best of luck!

Out of curiosity though, if you're gonna use a 170w pelt for the CPU and not have the oil cool it down, what's the point of getting the submersed system?

-Kev

[captain]

To avoid condensation, low tempetures om condenstors and chips on motherboards also cooled memory chips.

Overall better overclocking.
I think when overclocking you should not focus just on CPU cooling

[p[ara]d0x]

Well, the CPU is the part of the machine that really benefits most from cooling, I think you should focus most on the CPU. Cooling the rest is good too, of course. And why not cool the oil? It wouldn't hurt anything, and would not be difficult to do. If you let hot parts just sit around in the oil it will eventually heat up, which is not good.

[Joe]

I am very skeptical about the whole OCZ deal and especially when it comes to Liquid cooling. From what I have seen from their other cooling disasters they are nothing but a low quality scam.

I would wait to see one of these systems reviewed... preferably by a NON OCZ sponsored site.

[p[ara]d0x]

I haven't heard much good about OCZ myself, but making your own submersed system wouldn't be all that difficult. Plumbers goop and some sheet metal and you could waterproof a YY cube (or whatever else you want) fairly easily. Add pumps a radiator and a chiller and you're in business.

[Kevin]

i think making your own submerged system would be tougher than it sounds... but good luck!

[captain]

I agree with kevin.
I don't think its so easy to build it by yourself.
There are many issues you have to think about.

For example.

How will the mineral oil react with the materials on the motherboard.
Will some parts (resistors, condenstators etc)react like a spounge and suck the oil.
I have read a post on this forum about the BIOS chip not being able to handle subzero temperatures.

And as Kevin posted earlier.
I don't think that 2 172watt peltirs will ever cool that amount of oil.
I did some equations and I found out that you can never cool 172 watt peltiers with just a heatsink and a fan. Even with a good, and I mean a REALLY efficient water cooling system you maybe can cool down the hotside.
But you will never be able to obtain such low temperatures on the object considering the amount of watts being rejected. Maybe the cool side (Tc) can come down to subzero temperatures.

Ps, I Apologise for my spelling and grammar, didn't have time to check it.

[Joe]

Cappy,

The OCZ design is only a half planned out deal, They obviously dont know about how energy moves or how much heat those HSF's will have to dissapate.

Mineral Oil is BAD. Poor thermal transfer properties, its a mess, it IS a solovent that does have the potential after long periods of time to degrade the capacitors on the mother board, by seaping in and contaminating the Electrolyte in the capacitors.

the ONLY coolant thats MADE for this is Flourinert. but to do an enclosure that size you would need 5 Gal I would imagine. = 2500$ min.

Also I just dont like the idea of 5 Gal. of coolant just sitting there in an enclosure NOT meant to hold liquid. If that were to break open or a leak.. OMG would that be a mess.

If DD, OCWC, or some other company/group that KNOWS how to deal with cooling solutions would make something like that, I Maybe would think of it as feasable, but I just cant see it coming from a half wit company like OCZ.

Anyone even heard that they got the thing working? How they going to seal the card slots? and I/O ports? cause it looks like just a YY case type design.

I dunno, submerged cooling is a waste I think.. its FAR more in efficent thats for sure.