"The Equalizer" by g_f

gone_fishin · 09-30-2002, 03:26 AM

Here's the skinnards on the innards folks,

The interior is designed to distribute waterflow velocity equally throughout. The center goes down to 1mm thickness at 4mm diameter. Each pie wedge is permiated throughout with waterflow tunnels and the top surface of each pie wedge recieves waterflow, controlled by top gasket. The diagonal channels are blocked by the 2nd layer encasement and are drilled out to a larger diameter hole. Water is forced down the center inlet then through the six verticle slots and over the top surface. The water which goes through the diagonal channels with the larger tunnel is forced into the tunnels drilled through each pie wedge and exits on all four sides up through the 2nd and third layers and out the four exit tubes. The rest you may be able to tell from this preview
Surface area is immense in the small confined cube of 1.3" X 1.3", the flow rate I can run through it is high, the temperatures that result are low. And yes it does involve the use of a bandsaw

Opinions appreciated.

Cathar · 09-30-2002, 04:13 AM

Got any pictures without the fancy white-over glaze?

gone_fishin · 09-30-2002, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cathar
Got any pictures without the fancy white-over glaze?

It took me longer to learn how to make that white glaze than to design a block. That's eyecandy, you should see the 1mb file version that my host won't let me upload without upgrading my account

Cathar · 09-30-2002, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Surface area is immense in the small confined cube of 1.3" X 1.3", the flow rate I can run through it is high, the temperatures that result are low. And yes it does involve the use of a bandsaw

This is what I'd be most interested in seeing a close-up of. That by itself is more tasty to my eyes!

(Check your PM at OCAU)

morphling1 · 09-30-2002, 05:11 AM

Nice job, from my first succesfull experiment with multy level tops some time ago, I design most of my blocks that way, you can even the flow across the block, but I just complicate a little more to make one outlet

gone_fishin · 09-30-2002, 05:35 AM

Thanks morphling1.
Let me express a neato factoid here, the base is done with zero use of any mill bits or milling. Bandsaw and drillpress.

gone_fishin · 09-30-2002, 10:36 PM

Another pic of the base.

gone_fishin · 10-01-2002, 12:39 AM

Water contact surface area estimation.

32 lower holes = 1008^2mm 364 308 196 140

8 upper holes (12 X 4.5 X 8) = 432^2mm

8 upper holes (7 X 4.5 X 8) = 252^2mm

8 upper holes (4 X 4.5 X 8) = 144^2mm

4 slot sides (8 X 12 X 8) - 40% = 461^2mm

4 slot bottoms (1.5 X 12 X 4) = 72^2mm

4 slot sides (20 X 8 X 8) - 40% = 768^2mm

4 slot bottoms (1.5 X 20 X 4) = 120^2mm

4 exposed tops (12 X 12 X 4) = 576^2mm

4 outsides (32 X 8 X 4) - 40% = 614^2mm

center 13^2mm

Total estimated exposed surface area = 4447 ^2mm
in a 32mm X 32mm X 8mm cube

gone_fishin · 10-02-2002, 09:39 PM

I must say, for a waterblock design/construction forum, the lack of interest is astounding. Oh well, each to their own click I guess.

koslov · 10-02-2002, 09:56 PM

Are you sure your thread didn't get pushed way down because of the server crash?

Your block looks awesome, but I am having some trouble understanding how the water flows through it. Perhaps a diagram would help?

In your first pic, it looks like you have many of these blocks lined up. Are you planning on selling them? I wonder how many people would tolerate the resultant hose mess.

Arcturius · 10-02-2002, 10:57 PM

I second koslov, looks good, but I'd like a super close up of the base and lid side-by-side to get a really good idea of how it works.

Any numbers on the temps you're getting?

gone_fishin · 10-02-2002, 11:18 PM

koslov, yes I have made many to test so far

Here's a shot of the base and lid assembly as they join together.

And a close up one with rule.

Here's my rig I test in, I don't consider it to be cluttered. The tubing is longer than needed because I cut ends off as I test and swap blocks, this way I can use the tubing a few times before it is too short and without clamps.

Brad · 10-03-2002, 03:32 AM

lol - just how many outlets do you really need?

awesome design btw, did you get the idea from xjinn's block?

gone_fishin · 10-03-2002, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad
lol - just how many outlets do you really need?

awesome design btw, did you get the idea from xjinn's block?

Thanks, I did not get the idea from anyones block, who's xjinn and what does his block look like for you to ask that?

bigben2k · 10-03-2002, 09:08 AM

XJinn is the fella that made a cross-drilled block (5 rows/layers, with 1/2 side intake and outlet).

gone_fishin · 10-03-2002, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bigben2k
XJinn is the fella that made a cross-drilled block (5 rows/layers, with 1/2 side intake and outlet).

Sounds like a hard block to drill out, if it goes from one side to the other with long channels.
Cross drilled blocks have been around for quite some time and I believe they were the first DIY types to be made. My design has many more aspects to it, high flow, central impingement, short flow paths, high surface area in small form factor, multiple exits, multiple bp thickness, multi stage, cross platform mounting, clear lexan, gasket sealer, to name a few uniquely combined characteristics.

bigben2k · 10-03-2002, 09:38 AM

I think Brad was asking if the cross-drilled design was an inspiration, that's all.

You block is definitely different. Can't wait to see temps!

gone_fishin · 10-03-2002, 09:45 AM

Just didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea

Here's a clearer shot of some bases I didn't post here yet.

Brad · 10-04-2002, 05:29 AM

xjinn made the first bong, as well as his super cross drilled block. I don't have any pics of it off hand.

I agree your block is much more advanced, I'm just not sure if it will provide better performance or not...

Volenti · 10-04-2002, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by koslov

In your first pic, it looks like you have many of these blocks lined up. Are you planning on selling them? I wonder how many people would tolerate the resultant hose mess.

I'm sure G_F could organize a 4 to 1 "combiner" that could be fitted shortly after the block that would take care of most of the hose tangle.

[edit] oh G_F, how's your band saw blade holding up against the copper? (wear wise)

gone_fishin · 10-04-2002, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Volenti
I'm sure G_F could organize a 4 to 1 "combiner" that could be fitted shortly after the block that would take care of most of the hose tangle.

[edit] oh G_F, how's your band saw blade holding up against the copper? (wear wise)

Yeah, a combiner is a possibillity, basically a tiny res with no fill tube. The lack of a need for one by me to run these blocks has kept me from making one so far.
Cuts like butter, and I'm still on the same blade. I have a 1HP floor model bandsaw, plenty of power with 93" blades.

jaydee · 10-04-2002, 08:11 PM

Looking good! I like the "No Milling" approch aswell. Good work!

LiquidRulez · 10-05-2002, 02:35 AM

performance specs!!!!! performance specs !!!!!!!

gone_fishin · 10-08-2002, 04:56 PM

Thanks for the comments everyone

I modified the Spiral I have to not only fit on the P4 this time, but it now has 5/8" OD hosebarbs. I will be using it for comparisons to my block.
I used 1/2" Lexan and just kept the O-ring in place for some testing and used the original screws for a quick fix. I am going to get it back to the owner (I swapped a twenty spot for it) with the AMD holes drilled out and use a full size gasket and heavier cap screws with washers. (The original top was cracked)

Here's a shot, has anyone ran it with larger barbs?

gone_fishin · 10-15-2002, 06:19 PM

I finally got around to flowtesting the modded Spiral when connected to the loop. The amazing fantastic plastic bucket we all so love to hate

15 seconds to fill to the one gallon line, repeated twelve times in a row (hey, it's only 15 seconds so why not

)
240gph.

The Equalizer block? 14 seconds, to even my amazement for how confined the passageways are. 250gph

My earlier block, the large cone, was chugging along at 360gph as a flowrate comparison for my system.

And I also lapped the IHS. Light lapping on the left pic and complete lapping on the right pic. Can you see the inital unevenness?

09-30-2002, 03:26 AM	#1
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	"The Equalizer" by g_f Here's the skinnards on the innards folks, The interior is designed to distribute waterflow velocity equally throughout. The center goes down to 1mm thickness at 4mm diameter. Each pie wedge is permiated throughout with waterflow tunnels and the top surface of each pie wedge recieves waterflow, controlled by top gasket. The diagonal channels are blocked by the 2nd layer encasement and are drilled out to a larger diameter hole. Water is forced down the center inlet then through the six verticle slots and over the top surface. The water which goes through the diagonal channels with the larger tunnel is forced into the tunnels drilled through each pie wedge and exits on all four sides up through the 2nd and third layers and out the four exit tubes. The rest you may be able to tell from this preview Surface area is immense in the small confined cube of 1.3" X 1.3", the flow rate I can run through it is high, the temperatures that result are low. And yes it does involve the use of a bandsaw Opinions appreciated.

09-30-2002, 05:11 AM	#5
morphling1 Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Slovenia Posts: 468	Nice job, from my first succesfull experiment with multy level tops some time ago, I design most of my blocks that way, you can even the flow across the block, but I just complicate a little more to make one outlet __________________ [My ftp, with lots of pics, hope to be home page someday

10-03-2002, 03:32 AM	#13
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	lol - just how many outlets do you really need? awesome design btw, did you get the idea from xjinn's block? __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

10-03-2002, 09:08 AM	#15
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	XJinn is the fella that made a cross-drilled block (5 rows/layers, with 1/2 side intake and outlet). __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

10-03-2002, 09:38 AM	#17
bigben2k Responsible for 2% of all the posts here. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas, U.S.A. Posts: 8,302	I think Brad was asking if the cross-drilled design was an inspiration, that's all. You block is definitely different. Can't wait to see temps! __________________ WBTA (Water Block Testing Alliance) Nordic Hardware WC 101

09-30-2002, 04:13 AM	#2
Cathar Thermophile Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,538	Got any pictures without the fancy white-over glaze?

09-30-2002, 05:35 AM	#6
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	Thanks morphling1. Let me express a neato factoid here, the base is done with zero use of any mill bits or milling. Bandsaw and drillpress.

09-30-2002, 10:36 PM	#7
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	Another pic of the base.

10-01-2002, 12:39 AM	#8
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	Water contact surface area estimation. 32 lower holes = 1008^2mm 364 308 196 140 8 upper holes (12 X 4.5 X 8) = 432^2mm 8 upper holes (7 X 4.5 X 8) = 252^2mm 8 upper holes (4 X 4.5 X 8) = 144^2mm 4 slot sides (8 X 12 X 8) - 40% = 461^2mm 4 slot bottoms (1.5 X 12 X 4) = 72^2mm 4 slot sides (20 X 8 X 8) - 40% = 768^2mm 4 slot bottoms (1.5 X 20 X 4) = 120^2mm 4 exposed tops (12 X 12 X 4) = 576^2mm 4 outsides (32 X 8 X 4) - 40% = 614^2mm center 13^2mm Total estimated exposed surface area = 4447 ^2mm in a 32mm X 32mm X 8mm cube

10-02-2002, 09:39 PM	#9
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	I must say, for a waterblock design/construction forum, the lack of interest is astounding. Oh well, each to their own click I guess.

10-02-2002, 09:56 PM	#10
koslov Cooling Savant Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Posts: 264	Are you sure your thread didn't get pushed way down because of the server crash? Your block looks awesome, but I am having some trouble understanding how the water flows through it. Perhaps a diagram would help? In your first pic, it looks like you have many of these blocks lined up. Are you planning on selling them? I wonder how many people would tolerate the resultant hose mess.

10-02-2002, 10:57 PM	#11
Arcturius Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin Posts: 294	I second koslov, looks good, but I'd like a super close up of the base and lid side-by-side to get a really good idea of how it works. Any numbers on the temps you're getting?

10-02-2002, 11:18 PM	#12
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	koslov, yes I have made many to test so far Here's a shot of the base and lid assembly as they join together. And a close up one with rule. Here's my rig I test in, I don't consider it to be cluttered. The tubing is longer than needed because I cut ends off as I test and swap blocks, this way I can use the tubing a few times before it is too short and without clamps.

10-03-2002, 09:45 AM	#18
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	Just didn't want anyone to get the wrong idea Here's a clearer shot of some bases I didn't post here yet.

10-04-2002, 05:29 AM	#19
Brad Thermophile Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Nuu Zeeelin Posts: 3,175	xjinn made the first bong, as well as his super cross drilled block. I don't have any pics of it off hand. I agree your block is much more advanced, I'm just not sure if it will provide better performance or not... __________________ 2x P3 1100's at 1400, Abit VP6, 2x Corsair 256mb PC150 sticks, 20gb 'cuda ATA-III, 2x 40gb 'cuda ATA-IV in raid 0. 20" Trinitron. No fans 2x 2400+ at 2288mhz (16.0 x 143), Iwill MPX2, 2x Kingmax PC-3200 256mb sticks, 4x 20gb 60gxp in Raid 5 on a Promise SX6000. Asus Ti4200 320/630. Cooled by Water

10-04-2002, 08:11 PM	#22
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Looking good! I like the "No Milling" approch aswell. Good work!

10-05-2002, 02:35 AM	#23
LiquidRulez Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In Hell Posts: 322	performance specs!!!!! performance specs !!!!!!!

10-08-2002, 04:56 PM	#24
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	Thanks for the comments everyone I modified the Spiral I have to not only fit on the P4 this time, but it now has 5/8" OD hosebarbs. I will be using it for comparisons to my block. I used 1/2" Lexan and just kept the O-ring in place for some testing and used the original screws for a quick fix. I am going to get it back to the owner (I swapped a twenty spot for it) with the AMD holes drilled out and use a full size gasket and heavier cap screws with washers. (The original top was cracked) Here's a shot, has anyone ran it with larger barbs?

10-15-2002, 06:19 PM	#25
gone_fishin Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2002 Location: Da UP Posts: 517	I finally got around to flowtesting the modded Spiral when connected to the loop. The amazing fantastic plastic bucket we all so love to hate 15 seconds to fill to the one gallon line, repeated twelve times in a row (hey, it's only 15 seconds so why not) 240gph. The Equalizer block? 14 seconds, to even my amazement for how confined the passageways are. 250gph My earlier block, the large cone, was chugging along at 360gph as a flowrate comparison for my system. And I also lapped the IHS. Light lapping on the left pic and complete lapping on the right pic. Can you see the inital unevenness?

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