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Unread 11-19-2002, 06:52 AM   #1
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Hi all,
i've been a lurker here now for some time, and finaly decided to register.
I can spot some of you from hardforum and various other oc-sites, and i really think what you're doing here is great.

Recently i learned that one of my friends has a 'CNC-mill with cad-input' (sp?) at his workplace, and he has agreed to mill me some blocks if i can come up with a cad-drawing of them.
The only problem is that i've got no experience whatsoever of making cad-drawings, and i suck at designing waterblocks...
So if any friendly soul out there have some cad-drawings of a simple high/medium-flow block i would be gratefull to have them..
What im after is blocks for the northbridge, graphicscard (geforce2), hd-blocks.. basicly everything excluding the cpu..

I understand that some, or maybe all, of you want to keep your drawings to yourself, hell.. if i made a killer waterblock i wouldn't want some kid copying your design, but maybe someone has some simply block drawings?

Im not gonna sell the blocks or something, just use for myself...

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Unread 11-19-2002, 03:04 PM   #2
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Are you going to start selling the blocks?

GAAH I can't delete this post! This is emberecing! (SPELL)
Please delete this post I don't wanna be a dumbhead


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U dumba$$
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Unread 11-20-2002, 08:05 AM   #4
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Hi fixittt,
you couldn't possibly help me out here?
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thanks! atleast i didn't become a dumbhead.

mange_, try the S-channel-concept. works damn good and its easy to mill.
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thanks! atleast i didn't become a dumbhead.

mange_, try the S-channel-concept. works damn good and its easy to mill.
Yeah thats what im gonna do, but i searched for complete cad-drawings so i wouldn't have to do it myself, but when i get the cad-program im gonna start making my own
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Unread 11-20-2002, 02:45 PM   #7
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Default ok i have a few cads

they are copper bottoms and anodized al tops bolted together with a gasket in between.

http://brn.stanford.edu/ftp/users/di...waterblock.dwg
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I could come up with some cad drawings that would make your machinist friend scratch his head.

Damn Im a nice guy.

Does he have an "A" axis?
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I could come up with some cad drawings that would make your machinist friend scratch his head.

Damn Im a nice guy.

Does he have an "A" axis?
Don't know, i'll ask him when he returns from work.. Is there something else i should ask about the mill?

Thanks for caring
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they are copper bottoms and anodized al tops bolted together with a gasket in between.

http://brn.stanford.edu/ftp/users/di...waterblock.dwg
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I asked the guy about an "a axis", and the mill does not have it.
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Damn Fixittt, that's some sense of humour... I love it.
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So, do you have any ideas in mind, I am sure that I can whip something up in solid works really fast. Let me know. Also does your friend do 2d or 3d machining?
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You gotto have the a-axis
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Now I was seriouse (SP) about the A axis. Or 4th axis. It wasnt a joke.
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Now I was seriouse (SP) about the A axis. Or 4th axis. It wasnt a joke.
Well, I asked him and he said no, gotta ask about 2D/3D today too.. What im after is basicly the maze* design for the cpu-block and some S or Z design for the chipset- and geforce2blocks in complete drawings, something that can be processed directly by the cnc-mill.. I'm not after the best performance, i want blocks that are simple to mill and easy to assemble
Oh, and i want 1/2" on all if that makes any difference to the cad's...
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The mill is capable of 2D/3D milling but the operator isn't so good on 3D, so 2D drawings are prefered.. What's the difference between them?
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*sheepish grin*

And here I thought you were screwing with the new guy... shows what I know about machinging eh (though I've never heard a fourth or fifth axis referred to as the a-axis before for anything). Though, now that I think about it I can see how an extra DOF or two would be useful for the cutting head.
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Now would I mess with the new guy?????? <Sheepish Grin>

But I will mess with the new guys CNC guy Ohh yeah. Im gonna make him think!!!!!!!!!!! And maybe even have him scrap a part or 2. can we say 32 seporate operations for a block!!!!


LOL...... Ok, ok, I see the flames coming already. so Ill take it easy on him.

Ill see what I can whip out.

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[thinking loud] AAAHAA! Now I also understand what the 4th axis is there for. you could make awesome blocks! [/thinking loud]
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And here I thought you were screwing with the new guy... shows what I know about machinging eh (though I've never heard a fourth or fifth axis referred to as the a-axis before for anything). Though, now that I think about it I can see how an extra DOF or two would be useful for the cutting head.
There's your x axis which is the side to side movement of the table or milling head assembly, and y axis which is any movement in and out of the saddle which the table sits ontop of, and z axis which is the movement of the spindle or head assembly up and down(sometimes z axis is the movement of a "knee"which is on the knee type mill.....the whole x,y assemblies sit on a moving table of sorts that traverses up and down and called the z axis).

Most other axiis reffered to in cnc controller software are a axis, b axis and c axis.They can be utilized by anything that you also want to control with motors for motion, and usually the a axis is used for a rotary table mounted on the table, that has the actual part clamped to it, for doing cuts that require the ability to cut all sides of the stock without removing,reclamping and setting up the peice again.
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...and I thought A, B and C axis were rotational axis, around the X, Y and Z... Maybe I'm not too far after all!
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Thanks LiquidRulez, but as a civil engineering student I am familliar with the x, y and z axes . I'm also generally familliar with mills as we use one to grind concrete samples in the materials lab I work at in school (for doing chloride profiles) However, as our mill is crappy and doesn't have rotation around any axis I was thrown by the a axis bit.
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talk about a thread jacking!!!! whooo hoo Im good!
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talk about a thread jacking!!!! whooo hoo Im good!
Well, things are going slow for me atm...
I managed to get access to a pc with autocad, but i'm having problems making the %¤%"¤%& program to do what i want (me=stupid?),
and since i got zero experience and knowledge in this i'm not advancing as fast as i want to
Tell me if i'm right here:
the mill needs some code inputed to mill the block, which is called CAM right? And the best way to do this is to do a CAD drawing and then convert it to CAM?
And here's comes the problem, i can't make anything good in CAD, and certainly not in CAM ...
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