Just a lil comment

[MechCD]

I have been lurking around for a while and just decided to register

a few gripes here, when peeps say haetercores are good, that doesn't mean a big mamma. Big momma = big bucks. I got my heater core that is identical or pretty darn close to the big momma at my local autozone for $16. I just used 1/2in tubing on the existing connectors and slipped my regular 3/8ths tubing in and sealed it up. Hardly looks ghetto. If size is a problem, stick it behind something, i put mine behind my printer stand. If you plan your tubing routes right, you can get it where you want using very little tubing. For lan parties, get some quick disconnect valves and your set.

I personally think the price performance ratio of the black ice is horrible. All it is is a small heatercore with black fins... whoop dee doo. All that it was designed specifically for computers is bull poo on a stick. The watercooling market is too small to make a radiatr just for that. It is most likely an OEM item that whoever sells it for $70 is making quite a bit of money off of.

Alos, why not try oil or tranny coolers? they are close to the same size and much cheaper. The copper ones have pretty good performace too. But if you have room, go for a heatercore.

[bdunosk]

Amen to that - when I finally get around to buiding a watercooling setup, I'm definitely going with a heatercore from Autozone. I think I can handle putting barbs on it with JB weld and it'll work the same as the rest. I'll keep my $50, thank you very much. :P

Out of curiosity, what heatercore did you use? What car, I mean. Sounds like a winner.

[MechCD]

Its for a Ford F250 without AC, regular heater from Autozone's magical online list.

The barbs (if you could call them that) are a little long, you could saw them off and just put a 3/8 barb in there (1/2 NPT i think) and solder it in. i didn't because i didn't really want to got through all the work and i t helps keep the heatercore sitting flat

[OcPunK]

What year F250?

[LiquidCool]

Just go to autozone or wherever and ask to see their heater core book. It has pictures and sizes of every heater core available...

[Kevin]

Originally posted by MechCD:

a few gripes here, when peeps say haetercores are good, that doesn't mean a big mamma. Big momma = big bucks.

True dat. However, many people don't want to take on buying a heatercore and modding it for 1/2" or 3/8" fittins. But in general, it is basically just a heatercore.

Originally posted by MechCD:
I personally think the price performance ratio of the black ice is horrible. All it is is a small heatercore with black fins... whoop dee doo. All that it was designed specifically for computers is bull poo on a stick. The watercooling market is too small to make a radiatr just for that. It is most likely an OEM item that whoever sells it for $70 is making quite a bit of money off of.

Actually Chip works directly with the guys from HWLabs so it is more or less designed specifically for H2O cooling. Ask him.
-Kev

[TNT2bluz]

All that it was designed specifically for computers is bull poo on a stick.

Better yet ask me.

MechCD, needless to say your comment does reek of a lot of misinformation about how industrial products of relatively low volume are made. I dare you to find an OEM radiator (not heater core) with exactly the same proportions and configuration as the Black Ice. That of course is rhetorical because -you won't!

Developing the tool-dies and the production process for the Ice rads took a huge amount of investment. And that will have to be recouped unless we sink into some communist economic regime.

The reason why your average heater core is cheap, is because you've had every vehicle out there that uses it subsidizing its cost. However you do have a bit of an ergonomic issue when it comes to fitting that within your case and doing so seamlessly without seriously hacking into it is one obstacle the Ice tries to work around.

I think it is severely unfair and recklessly arrogant for you to derive such conclusions without putting into consideration the efforts of so many people in developing a product of exceptional quality.

But if price is your problem it is being tackled and it will be tackled soon.

The Black Ice isn't just a heater core, nor does it just have "black fins".

It is apparent that you haven't really gotten to take a look at the Black Ice up close. As you folks would say, don't knock it until you've tried it.

I guess I would understand to an extent why you would think and feel that way. As a consumer, you want the most out of your money. That is a given. But to remove any sense of appreciation for the efforts of people suggests a sense of moral impairment. An application of sobriety is in order.

[MechCD]

I've seen one, i'm not trying to say its a bad product at all. it is very similar to a heater core though, same principles. but then, every heat exchange device sahres similar principles.

I guess what i had meant to say was was, if you need a more heat handling capability, why would you buy somethign smaller or buy 2 when both will take up more space than one larger unit.

I'm very sorry if i offended anyone and i do regard the black ice as a good product, it just isn't the choice for every single system.

*proceeds to go to back room and smack self for screwing up his original post*

[MechCD]

*smacks self again* i should think before i post.... what i REALLY meant was look at soem alternatives before just plunging in and buying something. i saw that a heatercore fit my needs, but it may not fit other peep's needs

[TNT2bluz]

Originally posted by MechCD:
*smacks self again* i should think before i post.... what i REALLY meant was look at soem alternatives before just plunging in and buying something. i saw that a heatercore fit my needs, but it may not fit other peep's needs

I think what you meant to say was, your needs are met by a heater core.

I just do not see where all the disparaging and slanderous ramblings had to set in.

[MechCD]

Umm, not quite slanderous, but i did ramble alot

[TNT2bluz]

Originally posted by MechCD:
Umm, not quite slanderous, but i did ramble alot

MechCD...

It is most likely an OEM item that whoever sells it for $70 is making quite a bit of money off of.

So what were you imputing when you said this?

[Kevin]

Done... don't wanna see where this may lead...