Swiftechs a no go on Thunder K7!

Spinoza · 08-16-2001, 10:41 PM

I have received my Thunder K7, finally, it's the new model, with the plastic socket levers and BIOS 2.06 already there. However, I have run into a problem. CPU1 does not obey the no mount zone around the socket. Two capasitors are in the way when attempting to mount a Swiftech water block. I have now ordered Two MAZE2 blocks from dangerden. Just kinda upsets me, 50 bucks a block and I can't use them. Here's a pic of the problem.

The red line is about where the swiftech block is. The orange line is about where a dangerden block will be. Swiftech blocks are 3" square. ( Yes, those are Golden Sockets in the pic, I'm hoping to get these up to 1.5Ghz )

GuyBFF · 08-17-2001, 03:49 AM

Hey, I should probably know this, but what are the "golden sockets" you are pointing out? Are you referring to athlon MPs?

Spinoza · 08-17-2001, 07:35 AM

Golden Sockets, PK-OCK7/EV6, are an overclocking tool for Athlons. Basically they are a second socket which goes between your chip and the main board. They have dip switches on them that lets you change the multiplier of the chip... They work with both T-birds and MPs, since the pins that control the FIDs are the same. "Perfect" for the Thunder K7. I have even figured out how to get them to get the voltage up to 1.85..

GuyBFF · 08-17-2001, 10:20 PM

Ok, like the units for the athlon slot's, I've used those.. I didn't know they made them for sockets. I've just been cutting and painting the CPU's, but I haven't yet run in to any that are fully locked (with the removed pins).

Spinoza · 08-18-2001, 08:03 AM

You have to unlock the processor to use the golden sockets... at least that's what the directions say, I don't think it's needed, they're just pushing trace tape. I needed the things because they work for Athlon MP chips, and that's the only way to overclock on a Thunder K7 board. I have two MAZE2 blocks coming early next week. (I threw out the swiftechs cause one didn't fit on the board.) Also have a D-tek rad on the way. I'll let you know what kind of speed I get.

Joe · 08-18-2001, 11:47 AM

the golden sockets work good for ya?

also dont worry, I dont think the swiftech has that much of an advantage on a DD MAze2 at all.

GuyBFF · 08-18-2001, 03:16 PM

I can't remember which site, but one did a comparison of four blocks, and the maze 2 came out the winner by about a degree over the swiftech. Sucks you had to buy twice though. On the good side, a lot of watercoolers using the swiftech's report at least some level of corrosion even while using high concentrations of glycol!

Joe · 08-18-2001, 03:31 PM

Yeppers Al+Cu = Evil

Joe · 08-18-2001, 03:34 PM

Also, did your board come with a HSF on the north bridge?

Spinoza · 08-19-2001, 01:13 PM

No, the Thunder K7 I got doesn't have a HSF on the north bridge, just a Heat Sink. I want to take it off and put a nicely lapped blue orb on there with AS epoxy. It's on there really good though. How would I get it off the chip easily?

I also bought a D-tek rad for the setup and went to all 1/2 fittings and tubes. Since now I can overclock it's a whole new realm of cooling. Before I was just planing to run the chips at stock speed.

OcPunK · 08-22-2001, 01:49 PM

You could always desolder those cap and put them on wires so they r out of the way but I don't think a mod like that would be a good idea on a $500 mobo.

VooDoo · 08-28-2001, 06:14 AM

Where can i get these Golden things?

im also after bulk PSU's for these boards if anyone can help out

Overlag · 09-03-2001, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe:
Yeppers Al+Cu = Evil

mine has been running fine for 6months, this is what it looked like inside clean as new...but then i broke a screw in the block

fixed now though

redleader · 09-03-2001, 10:25 PM

Quote:

I want to take it off and put a nicely lapped blue orb on there with AS epoxy.

Don't bother. Even nicely lapped they still suck hard. Check this http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenT...5&m=4630962062

I'd try a Tennmax or maybe one of those GlobalWin GPU coolers.

08-16-2001, 10:41 PM	#1
Spinoza Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 42	Swiftechs a no go on Thunder K7! I have received my Thunder K7, finally, it's the new model, with the plastic socket levers and BIOS 2.06 already there. However, I have run into a problem. CPU1 does not obey the no mount zone around the socket. Two capasitors are in the way when attempting to mount a Swiftech water block. I have now ordered Two MAZE2 blocks from dangerden. Just kinda upsets me, 50 bucks a block and I can't use them. Here's a pic of the problem. The red line is about where the swiftech block is. The orange line is about where a dangerden block will be. Swiftech blocks are 3" square. ( Yes, those are Golden Sockets in the pic, I'm hoping to get these up to 1.5Ghz ) __________________ Thunder K7 Athlon 1800's Danger Den/Ehiem to cool jig of RAM http://www.cs.oswego.edu/~vito/complete.jpg

08-17-2001, 03:49 AM	#2
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	Hey, I should probably know this, but what are the "golden sockets" you are pointing out? Are you referring to athlon MPs? __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

08-17-2001, 07:35 AM	#3
Spinoza Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 42	Golden Sockets, PK-OCK7/EV6, are an overclocking tool for Athlons. Basically they are a second socket which goes between your chip and the main board. They have dip switches on them that lets you change the multiplier of the chip... They work with both T-birds and MPs, since the pins that control the FIDs are the same. "Perfect" for the Thunder K7. I have even figured out how to get them to get the voltage up to 1.85.. __________________ Thunder K7 Athlon 1800's Danger Den/Ehiem to cool jig of RAM http://www.cs.oswego.edu/~vito/complete.jpg

08-17-2001, 10:20 PM	#4
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	Ok, like the units for the athlon slot's, I've used those.. I didn't know they made them for sockets. I've just been cutting and painting the CPU's, but I haven't yet run in to any that are fully locked (with the removed pins). __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

08-18-2001, 08:03 AM	#5
Spinoza Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 42	You have to unlock the processor to use the golden sockets... at least that's what the directions say, I don't think it's needed, they're just pushing trace tape. I needed the things because they work for Athlon MP chips, and that's the only way to overclock on a Thunder K7 board. I have two MAZE2 blocks coming early next week. (I threw out the swiftechs cause one didn't fit on the board.) Also have a D-tek rad on the way. I'll let you know what kind of speed I get. __________________ Thunder K7 Athlon 1800's Danger Den/Ehiem to cool jig of RAM http://www.cs.oswego.edu/~vito/complete.jpg

08-18-2001, 11:47 AM	#6
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	the golden sockets work good for ya? also dont worry, I dont think the swiftech has that much of an advantage on a DD MAze2 at all. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

08-18-2001, 03:16 PM	#7
GuyBFF Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg, MB, CA Posts: 242	I can't remember which site, but one did a comparison of four blocks, and the maze 2 came out the winner by about a degree over the swiftech. Sucks you had to buy twice though. On the good side, a lot of watercoolers using the swiftech's report at least some level of corrosion even while using high concentrations of glycol! __________________ A7V8X Danger Den Maze II Danner Mag Drive 350 Heater Core Style Rad Thunderbird 1400 (Soon Barton) 512mb PC2700 CL2 Promise SX4000 Raid 5 w/256mb PC133 Cache 4x40gb Western Digital 7200hdd Plus More...

08-18-2001, 03:31 PM	#8
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Yeppers Al+Cu = Evil __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

08-18-2001, 03:34 PM	#9
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Also, did your board come with a HSF on the north bridge? __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

08-19-2001, 01:13 PM	#10
Spinoza Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 42	No, the Thunder K7 I got doesn't have a HSF on the north bridge, just a Heat Sink. I want to take it off and put a nicely lapped blue orb on there with AS epoxy. It's on there really good though. How would I get it off the chip easily? I also bought a D-tek rad for the setup and went to all 1/2 fittings and tubes. Since now I can overclock it's a whole new realm of cooling. Before I was just planing to run the chips at stock speed. __________________ Thunder K7 Athlon 1800's Danger Den/Ehiem to cool jig of RAM http://www.cs.oswego.edu/~vito/complete.jpg

08-22-2001, 01:49 PM	#11
OcPunK Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Under ground cave in PA to keep PCs cool! Posts: 125	You could always desolder those cap and put them on wires so they r out of the way but I don't think a mod like that would be a good idea on a $500 mobo. __________________ www.1337info.com

08-28-2001, 06:14 AM	#12
VooDoo Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1	Where can i get these Golden things? im also after bulk PSU's for these boards if anyone can help out

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