Keep It Up!!

[jaydee]

We are over 2million now and 41st place as of 6-28-03 8am pacific time. We are on about the same pace as [H] right now and maybe even gaining a bit. I am going to try and peice together another cruncher tonight. Lets put those over powered, over cooled, over tweaked systems to use!

[jaydee]

Update:

We briefly had a hold of 40th place but got spanked and are now back to 41st.

We are starting to loose pace with [H] though. We were within 500,000 for while but have slipped to within 643,854.

Still doing good though. We now have 21 members with results returned! Keep up the good work!

[jaydee]

Update:

Lots of good news today.

1) Just passed 3million points!
2) Moved in to 40th place.
3) Are now within 533,698 points from [H]

Keep up the great work!

[pHaestus]

Jaydee: I put my TBredB and my 1600+ online because I have remote access to them. The rest of my empire will be folding next week sometime. Not sure if the 1600+ will stay up or not; CPU is reporting 80C right now (have my eye on it). I might as well get my notebook on the case as well since I am just idling most of the day on it

[jaydee]

Originally posted by pHaestus
The rest of my empire will be folding next week sometime.

I might as well get my notebook on the case as well since I am just idling most of the day on it

Sounds good! I am thinking about dropping my UT2003 server on my laptop, being no one uses it, and loading up D.F. on it aswell.

[pHaestus]

alternatively me and possibly bignuts could install UT2003 and start playing on your server some

You are Pacific time right?

[pHaestus]

Ok just added my notebook. I have a fair number of PCs that I can use:

1700+TBredB at ~2100MHz
P4 1.8GHz notebook
P4 2.4 desktop
TBird 1.33 desktop
2 1600+ desktops
1500MHz Duron desktop
another 1700+ TBredB in the mail

Right now I just have a 1600+ and the TBredB and my noteook folding (started the 1600+ and the notebook in last few minutes)

[jaydee]

Originally posted by pHaestus
alternatively me and possibly bignuts could install UT2003 and start playing on your server some

You are Pacific time right?

Yeah pacific time. I will leave it as a UT2003 server.

[Phant0m51]

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I just installed the client on my brother's XP 1600+, and he doesn't even know. It's set up as a service, and he doesn't know ahahahaha!!! I rule.

[jaydee]

Update:

More good news today.

1) We are now in 38th place.

2) Now just 2 positions away from [H].

3) Now Just 416,935 behind [H].

4) Now have 23 members with points on the board with 19 putting out a daily number of points!

[MadHacker]

Originally posted by Phant0m51
MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I just installed the client on my brother's XP 1600+, and he doesn't even know. It's set up as a service, and he doesn't know ahahahaha!!! I rule.

How do you set it up as a service?
then i'd get a ew more machines at home crunching numbers.

[jaydee]

Originally posted by MadHacker
How do you set it up as a service?
then i'd get a ew more machines at home crunching numbers.

This was made for the original client, but the main info should be the same for the new client.

Running as an NT/2000/XP service

The Windows version of the client can be set up to run as a normal Windows NT service, so that it will start automatically whenever your computer starts up and run in the background until you shut down. Structures will be uploaded every 5000 still, and buffered for later upload at shutdown (so your shutdown procedure will not be delayed). It runs at low priority so other tasks will push it out of the way and so it should not noticeably slow your machine down. Be warned that it will only upload after making 5000 structures (a few hours, depending on your machine speed) so make sure you are connected to the internet when using the client as a service. Also, updates will automatically be accepted (provided they are digitally signed) in this mode and a large amount of data may be buffered if you do not connect to the network for a long period of time. To check progress while running as a service, a file called "progress.txt" will be written to the directory where the program is installed
so you can monitor its progress still.

To setup the program to work as a service:

1. Open a DOS prompt to the directory you installed the client.
2. If it is not already there, create a new file called "handle.txt" and in it type your 8 character handle followed by Enter (or alternatively, runfoldit.bat first, enter your handle when asked for it, then quit)
3. Type: foldtrajlite /install (and hit Enter)
4. The next time you reboot your machine it will start automatically

To remove the service:

1. Go to Administrative Tools -> Services
2. Find and Stop the service called Distributed Folding Project
3. Open a DOS prompt to the directory you installed the client.
4. Type: foldtrajlite /remove (and hit Enter)
5. It will not be run on your machine automatically anymore

You may install a second instance of the service by changing step 3 above from 'foldtrajlite /install' to 'foldtrajlite /install2'. Similarly, to remove this second instance, change step 4 to 'foldtrajlite /remove2'.

Note that if you wish to run two instances, you must install two full copies of the software in separate directories and install one using /install and the other /install2. Not following this procedure correctly will result in unpredictable behaviour.

Configuring the service

You should have a SERVICE.CFG file in your client directory after
following the above steps. If it is not there, remove and re-install
the service. The first line of this file must contain a number
identifying whether it is copy 1 or copy 2 of the service. Next, you
may include any of the following options in any order if you wish:

useram=1 makes use of extra RAM for improved speed
(see -rt option elsewhere in this readme); default is useram=0

priority=### where -20<=###<=20 sets the priority of the task just like the -p option (20=passive, -20=aggressive); default is 20

progress=### where 0<=###<=100 sets the update interval for the progress.txt file, like the -g option (0=disable) default is 50

uploadfreq=### where 999<=###<=10000 controls the upload frequency like the -s option; default=999=assigned from our server

connect=0 disables internet usage - use this if you are on dialup or temporarily unable to access the internet for some reason; you must eventually remove this to upload your data, but your work will be buffered until then; works the same as the -if optionl default is connect=1

uploadonly=1 behaves as the -ut option, instructing the program to upload all buffered work and then terminate. Do NOT combine with the connect=0 option! Default is uploadonly=0

[xerka]

Edit:
Ooopps looks like jaydee beat me to it.

[MadHacker]

thanks jaydee116... now i will be able to get a few more machines running...

just out of curiosity... what is the 116 stand for?

[jaydee]

Originally posted by MadHacker
thanks jaydee116... now i will be able to get a few more machines running...

just out of curiosity... what is the 116 stand for?

Nothing. J is my first name initial, D is my last name Initial the a, y, e,e,1,1,6 have nothing to do with anything really. My real name isn't JayDee. jaydee is usually taken in forums and the first thing I ever signed up for was a chat room way back when and they recommended jaydee116 as jaydee was taken and a kept it ever since.

xerka if you see anything wrong with the service info I posted let me know and I will correct it. I never set it up as a service before and stole that quote from another site.

[hara]

How much memory does the client take? I quit folding for the [H] last year because I only have 256mb of ram.

Can I cause the client to pop up only after 5 mins of inactivity (i.e. Can I replace the screensaver with it) ?

[jaydee]

Originally posted by hara
How much memory does the client take? I quit folding for the [H] last year because I only have 256mb of ram.

Can I cause the client to pop up only after 5 mins of inactivity (i.e. Can I replace the screensaver with it) ?

This is Distributed Folding not Folding@Home. It is supposed to take up a maximum of 150megs but is usually aroud 90-120megs. All three of my crunchers only have 256megs installed. Download the screen saver version if you want to go that way but the Text client is better.

[Phant0m51]

Incase anybody doesn't want to read all of that stuff jaydee posted, the simplest way to install it as a service is to do these 5 simple steps:

1. Download the text client and run 'Foldit.bat' for the first time and set it up like you normally would.
2. If you don't have a bunch of ram, say no to the 'Extra' ram part. (If you did, but didn't mean to, edit the 'Foldit.bat' file and delete the '-rt' extension [without the 's])
3. Now open a command prompt, and go to the distribfold directory (or wherever you unzipped it to)
4. type 'foldtrajlite /install'
5. Reboot your machine, and you now have a service installed.

[hara]

What are the similarities and differences between F@H and DF ?

[jaydee]

Originally posted by hara
What are the similarities and differences between F@H and DF ?

Folding@Home is a process to try and understand how protiens fold. Distributed Folding is a process to try and find the most efficent way ("client") to do pretty much what Folding@Home is doing except much much more efficently. Did that make sence?

[xerka]

Can I cause the client to pop up only after 5 mins of inactivity (i.e. Can I replace the screensaver with it) ?

I would just install the client as a service, the client is set to not interfere with anything you do. On the priorty its really low so it only uses your spare cpu power. I have even run bench marks and get the same score with and without running it as a service.

What are the similarities and differences between F@H and DF ?

Just to delve a little deeper here is what "Brian the Fist"(one of the main guys) says
To answer the question you are really asking, the difference (among other things) is that F@H attempts to fold small peptides (not big enough to be called proteins) by parallel molecular dynamics (MD). Normally MD cannot be done in parallel but they have devised a clever way to do so. Unfortunately anything big enough to resemble an actual protein is still computationally intractable with this approach. Nevertheless we can learn many things about the protein folding pathways, etc by studying how these smaller protein fragments fold.

We on the other hand, especialluy with the new beta, are looking at the folding pathways of full (albeit small) proteins. Our ultimate goal originally was to predict the final folded structure of the proteins, regardless of how we get it. However now we find that we can as a bonus also sample folding pathways at the same time to track HOW the proteins fold and this can later be compared with experiment. If they match it suggests our folding simulations may approximate reality. In order to handle much larger protein sequences than F@H, we obviously have made concessions. We do not use the 'tried and true' MD approach (which has been around for decades) but rather use an extension of our TraDES algorithm to perform a coarse-grained dynamics simulation which takes much larger steps in conformational space. It remains to be seen with the beta testing if this approach can get us to the native fold of the protein, given an ideal scoring function to guide it, but so far we have gotten close (4.5A RMSD is the record so far I believe, from the previous beta - ideally we should get 1-2A which is why we're still trying different algorithms).

If you got lost somewhere above there, you may have to do some reading on the web site to make sense of things

^Taken from this thread http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthr...ighlight=f%40h

[Phant0m51]

I just looked and we're # 36!!!! [H]OCP is now 40th!!! We're beating them by 100,000 now. WE RULE!!!

[jaydee]

Originally posted by Phant0m51
I just looked and we're # 36!!!! [H]OCP is now 40th!!! We're beating them by 100,000 now. WE RULE!!!

Yeah seen that to? They must have lost a member with mucho points?

[Blackeagle]

I saw that and wondered what dropped H so far and fast, they were just a bit over 4 million earlier today.

I'll bet it won't be long and they will be trying hard to displace us.

Be nice if we can build up a bit more lead on them prior to that.

[pHaestus]

yea looks like a beanerman went from their team to teamless and took over 500k structures with him. Maybe he wants to join team Procooling