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cypher_138 · 10-15-2003, 08:44 PM

I picked up the new Swiftech pump today and the first thing that stood out, (beside how sweet it looks) is it's small size. Here's some comparison shots:

This pump really moves alot of water for being so small. It's a perfect balance between head, flow and heat. The only thing is the 4 pin connector isn't designed for an external design. This can be overcome by lengthening it with an extender or soldering a longer tail onto it. As for temps I was at 27C using Nanotherm PCM+. This time I went with Shin Etsu, which is at 28/29C. Due to the longer cure time of my current TIM it's safe to say there was a decrease in temps. The temps are gathered by Asus Probe and a thermal sensor on my Enermax A5 affixed to the chip with thermal tape beside the die. Not 100% but all I have to go on. regardless it's a great pump without a doubt.

BrianW · 10-15-2003, 08:52 PM

Are those fittings that are designed for tubes to be placed in? Is it possible to order it with just regular hose barbs?

BrianW

cypher_138 · 10-15-2003, 09:04 PM

The grey inserts are used for shipping. The hose fits over top of the barbs as normal.

Aardil · 10-15-2003, 09:05 PM

Not sure if it designed for the swifty connectors or not, on mine I just slid 1/2 tygon over the in let and outlet didnt even use a clamp but I was just running a couple of simple tests. I will use clamps when my system goes live.
Aardil

ralf_c · 10-15-2003, 10:37 PM

that pump looks pretty sweet. been thinking of buying one my self.

BrianW · 10-15-2003, 11:55 PM

Kewl, thanks.

BrianW

Yo-DUH_87 · 10-17-2003, 12:49 AM

It looks like a nice pump, but it sure is spendy, for a pump.

Is there anywhere that stocks it for less than $80?

jovetata · 10-17-2003, 01:20 AM

i have a question that i wanted to post on the pump test in phaestus' work log but didnt know if i could do it so... here's next best place

i have a dannermag 5 with 2 heatercores from dtek and a #rotor style block. im gonna add a gpu and maybe northbridge block to the mix.

anyways, im feeling the MAG5 is kinda hot to the touch, so i was wondering, what pump is good for my set up, i need really high flow cuz this mag5 (after loop) doesnt push a lot of water... like less than half of what it does with nothing connected.... like the pump could shoot water 8 feet away but when all is connectedd, it shoot maybe 1 foot... and it gets hot.. so i was just wondering what pump i should get, please no iwaki or whatever it is... im planning on putting it in a box full of water soooo, please any suggestions? thanx a bunch

joemac · 10-17-2003, 01:48 AM

Nice cat

cypher_138 · 10-17-2003, 09:13 PM

Thanks Joemac.

jovetata,
If you're referring to a good submersible pump I wouldn't know. Maybe if you start a new thread on that topic it would attract the attention of someone who would know. There's allot of knowledge here.

jovetata · 10-17-2003, 09:47 PM

cool thanx

dima y · 10-30-2003, 07:45 PM

bringing this from the dead. Bill is this pump made by/for swiftech? seems so to me.

is there any way to convert to 1/2 or 3/8 pushfit fitting?

one more this is more of a request: if you guys lowered the price just a little bit so it nearly equals ehiem i would imagine ALOT of people would buy this pump. i know i would

BillA · 10-30-2003, 08:13 PM

made to our specs
no (easy) way to convert to push-fit (John Guest)
we can get it with NPT male ends but that just adds 2 threaded connections, plus the adaptors to anything else

we should have a lower cost pump in a couple of months,
but lower performance too eh ?

we have made several changes and the present version is now quite comparable to the Eheim in terms of noise
- the old business of 'you get what you pay for'
and why we are so aggressively pursuing this present 'bug'

jovetata · 10-31-2003, 05:43 AM

what bug? cuz i was about to purchace this pump to mount inline cuz im not digging the whole external rasevoir thing for my rig.

BillA · 10-31-2003, 08:47 AM

details here
not really a huge problem as it seems to affect ~2% of the pumps,
but 2% is too high and we are fixing it

10-15-2003, 08:44 PM	#1
cypher_138 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 22	Danner/MCP600 Pics I picked up the new Swiftech pump today and the first thing that stood out, (beside how sweet it looks) is it's small size. Here's some comparison shots: This pump really moves alot of water for being so small. It's a perfect balance between head, flow and heat. The only thing is the 4 pin connector isn't designed for an external design. This can be overcome by lengthening it with an extender or soldering a longer tail onto it. As for temps I was at 27C using Nanotherm PCM+. This time I went with Shin Etsu, which is at 28/29C. Due to the longer cure time of my current TIM it's safe to say there was a decrease in temps. The temps are gathered by Asus Probe and a thermal sensor on my Enermax A5 affixed to the chip with thermal tape beside the die. Not 100% but all I have to go on. regardless it's a great pump without a doubt. __________________ Rig1-Asus P4C800-E DLX\|2.8C@3.6\| OCZ 4000 Gold 2x512\|9800 XT\| 2 WD Raptors/RAID0\|Cooler Master ATC-111C w/550 TC PSU H20 Pics Rig2-Asus A7N8X DLX\| XP 2500 @2.3 w/ SLK-800\|Crucial PC3200 2X512MB\|120 GB Maxtor\| Join the Fold

10-15-2003, 08:52 PM	#2
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Are those fittings that are designed for tubes to be placed in? Is it possible to order it with just regular hose barbs? BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

10-15-2003, 09:04 PM	#3
cypher_138 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 22	The grey inserts are used for shipping. The hose fits over top of the barbs as normal. __________________ Rig1-Asus P4C800-E DLX\|2.8C@3.6\| OCZ 4000 Gold 2x512\|9800 XT\| 2 WD Raptors/RAID0\|Cooler Master ATC-111C w/550 TC PSU H20 Pics Rig2-Asus A7N8X DLX\| XP 2500 @2.3 w/ SLK-800\|Crucial PC3200 2X512MB\|120 GB Maxtor\| Join the Fold

10-15-2003, 10:37 PM	#5
ralf_c Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA Posts: 61	that pump looks pretty sweet. been thinking of buying one my self. __________________ best regards, ralf

10-15-2003, 11:55 PM	#6
BrianW Cooling Savant Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Desert City in California Posts: 631	Kewl, thanks. BrianW __________________ Water Cooled Inwin Q500 (Dual Rads: Rad1 = DTEK Pro Core \| Rad2 = Blick Ice Estreme, Hydor L30, Dangerden Maze2, Bay Res Typhoon Reservoir, 1/2 " DD Tygon Thick Wall Hose). Flow: Res, Pump, CPU watervlock, Y into both rads, both rads into res independently. Athlon XP 1800+ (@ 1731 - 150mhz fsb.), on a Asus A7N266-c, and a Radeon 9000 *waiting for RMA'd Saphire 9800 ultra from Newegg)

10-15-2003, 09:05 PM	#4
Aardil Cooling Savant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 174	Not sure if it designed for the swifty connectors or not, on mine I just slid 1/2 tygon over the in let and outlet didnt even use a clamp but I was just running a couple of simple tests. I will use clamps when my system goes live. Aardil

10-17-2003, 12:49 AM	#7
Yo-DUH_87 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 230	It looks like a nice pump, but it sure is spendy, for a pump. Is there anywhere that stocks it for less than $80? __________________ Signing out... Yo-DUH_87 If it works, fix it until it's broke! Then, after it's broke, add duct tape! Affordable webhosting!

10-17-2003, 01:20 AM	#8
jovetata Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: miami, fl Posts: 46	i have a question that i wanted to post on the pump test in phaestus' work log but didnt know if i could do it so... here's next best place i have a dannermag 5 with 2 heatercores from dtek and a #rotor style block. im gonna add a gpu and maybe northbridge block to the mix. anyways, im feeling the MAG5 is kinda hot to the touch, so i was wondering, what pump is good for my set up, i need really high flow cuz this mag5 (after loop) doesnt push a lot of water... like less than half of what it does with nothing connected.... like the pump could shoot water 8 feet away but when all is connectedd, it shoot maybe 1 foot... and it gets hot.. so i was just wondering what pump i should get, please no iwaki or whatever it is... im planning on putting it in a box full of water soooo, please any suggestions? thanx a bunch

10-17-2003, 01:48 AM	#9
joemac Cooling Savant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 339	Nice cat __________________ www.aquajoe.com

10-17-2003, 09:13 PM	#10
cypher_138 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 22	Thanks Joemac. jovetata, If you're referring to a good submersible pump I wouldn't know. Maybe if you start a new thread on that topic it would attract the attention of someone who would know. There's allot of knowledge here. __________________ Rig1-Asus P4C800-E DLX\|2.8C@3.6\| OCZ 4000 Gold 2x512\|9800 XT\| 2 WD Raptors/RAID0\|Cooler Master ATC-111C w/550 TC PSU H20 Pics Rig2-Asus A7N8X DLX\| XP 2500 @2.3 w/ SLK-800\|Crucial PC3200 2X512MB\|120 GB Maxtor\| Join the Fold

10-17-2003, 09:47 PM	#11
jovetata Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: miami, fl Posts: 46	cool thanx

10-30-2003, 07:45 PM	#12
dima y Cooling Savant Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: palo alto, CA Posts: 164	bringing this from the dead. Bill is this pump made by/for swiftech? seems so to me. is there any way to convert to 1/2 or 3/8 pushfit fitting? one more this is more of a request: if you guys lowered the price just a little bit so it nearly equals ehiem i would imagine ALOT of people would buy this pump. i know i would

10-30-2003, 08:13 PM	#13
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	made to our specs no (easy) way to convert to push-fit (John Guest) we can get it with NPT male ends but that just adds 2 threaded connections, plus the adaptors to anything else we should have a lower cost pump in a couple of months, but lower performance too eh ? we have made several changes and the present version is now quite comparable to the Eheim in terms of noise - the old business of 'you get what you pay for' and why we are so aggressively pursuing this present 'bug'

10-31-2003, 05:43 AM	#14
jovetata Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: miami, fl Posts: 46	what bug? cuz i was about to purchace this pump to mount inline cuz im not digging the whole external rasevoir thing for my rig.

10-31-2003, 08:47 AM	#15
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	details here not really a huge problem as it seems to affect ~2% of the pumps, but 2% is too high and we are fixing it

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