Check out my new push in fittings...

[morphling1]

After some searching through Festo catalog I found push in fitting that are usefull for bigger flow than those 8mm OD the some of german blocks use.
These are 12mm OD 1/4" thread, and the pneumatic hose I use now is 12mm OD and 10mm ID so the flow is not that lower than with 1/2" hoses (12mmID). They are wonderfull very easy to work with just push the hose in the fiiting and you're done. But this hose is very hard so it doesn't bend to much so I have to use 90° fittings for turns. But for now I just use it in blocks section then go back to 1/2" silicon hose for radiator and pump connection.
Also here you can see my dual Maxy-Jets pump in action, I get a lot better flow than with Eheim 1250 plus they are a lot smaller, my system is now even more optimized 0.7m of hoses in total so the temp remain the same, or they are actuly even better since I tighten the cpu block even more, (I'm at 49°C with axp at 1.97GHz @ 2.15V water temp 25°C full load - internal diode reading of course) . So now only my new Gigabyte waterblock is missing, which is already designed
So this is how it looks now.

[gone_fishin]

They look good. Is there a version that you could have come straight out of your block and have some Tygon tubing do a more gradual radius instead of the multiple 90 degree elbows?

[morphling1]

The problem I see with silicon or tygon tubing is, if you have 12mm OD hose that ID will be like 8 or something like that, but with those pneumatic hoses 12/10mm you could do turns with radius of ~10cm, so for straight watercooling with only cpu block you could very well use those (which have btw very, very smoth surface so the flow is definetly better than the same size silicon, tygon hose), but when using nb and/or gpu block I can's see a way connecting all blocks just with silicon/tygon without any kinks.
But yeah I think you could use those hoses but because they are softer there's a danger of pulling the hose from fitting, but to be certain I would have to try it, I might do that tomorrow if I'll get some 12mm silicon hose.

[gone_fishin]

Originally posted by morphling1
The problem I see with silicon or tygon tubing is, if you have 12mm OD hose that ID will be like 8 or something like that, but with those pneumatic hoses 12/10mm you could do turns with radius of ~10cm, so for straight watercooling with only cpu block you could very well use those (which have btw very, very smoth surface so the flow is definetly better than the same size silicon, tygon hose), but when using nb and/or gpu block I can's see a way connecting all blocks just with silicon/tygon without any kinks.
But yeah I think you could use those hoses but because they are softer there's a danger of pulling the hose from fitting, but to be certain I would have to try it, I might do that tomorrow if I'll get some 12mm silicon hose.

The closeness would mean a little longer tube but at a more gradual radius (which can be done with Tygon, not sure about silicone though). I would not worry about the softness of Tygon causing slippage, it holds so tight that you usually need to cut it off of the barb because you cannot pull it off. I see that you add a short length of stiff smooth tubing out of the connector for the hose to connect to, just put some uneven epoxy rings on it to mimic a hose barb.

[morphling1]

I don't know about tygon because I can't get that stuff in Slovenia, I only know that OD must be 12mm for hose for this fitting and not aprox. 12mm. But I think I know what I'll use in the future, for this fittings, I'll put 5cm of that plastic pneumatic hose and put it in my 1/2" silicon hose where it fit perfectly, and tighten it with hose clamp, like you see when going from rad to cpu block (silicon hose to 90° elbow quick fitting), that way I can use those fittings and 1/2" silicon hoses without any reduction in cross section comparing to normal brass fitting because the ID is the same for both fittings

[Puzzdre]

Hey neighbour, how did you attach the wblock on the radeon???
Post a picture!!! Stupid radeon boards don't have heat sink holes, I was wondering how to attach wblock on GPU without epoxy or large clamps (not willing to sacrify pci slots)

[morphling1]

Hey welcome to the forums, so how did I put my waterblock on radeon, hmm simple check it out http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/sho...&threadid=3617 , but this is not very simple task, as for radeons not having holes, actualy only 64mb versions don't have them, 128 mb retail definetly have them and my 64mb Gigabyte LE also have them, thats why I'm making new block for that card,

Pitanje, dali je kod vas koji dobar hardware web naslov sa forumom na kojem se razgovara o ovakim stvarima, jer ja èu vjerovatno poèet radit sve moguèe vodne bloke i mogao bih i kod vas naredit malo reklame, ako ima zanimanja.

[Puzzdre]

Geee... I think I'll be monitoring that thread... !!!!

Nazalost, koliko znam nema webova na koje bih te uputio... Mislim da je jedini nacin za breakthrough da se probas dogovorit s ljudima u Bug-u da testiraju jedan, to bi bila najbolja reklama.

Jos ostaje jedino oglasavanje na newsima na hr.ponuda.hardver...

mislim da je ovdje wcooling vecinom na nivou DIY, pa i nije nekako zazivilo...

Great design bloka za radeon!!!!

[morphling1]

Thanks for that info, btw. you can read the whole article I wrote here : http://www.extremecooling.org/ec/mod...howpage&pid=62

[dacooltech]

The problem I see with silicon or tygon tubing is, if you have 12mm OD hose that ID will be like 8 or something like that, but with those pneumatic hoses 12/10mm you could do turns with radius of ~10cm, so for straight watercooling with only cpu block you could very well use those (which have btw very, very smoth surface so the flow is definetly better than the same size silicon, tygon hose), but when using nb and/or gpu block I can's see a way connecting all blocks just with silicon/tygon without any kinks.

Morphling - For soft tubing (ie silicone, tygon) you need to use Tube Inserts.

Bruce

[morphling1]

Yes I realized that, I already use something like that when going from silicon hoses to push in elbow (from rad to cpu block), so I insert that pneumatic hard hose into silicon (fit perfectly) and I insert that in. This is what I'll do next time to lose all the 90° quick star elbows and go back to 1/2" silicon hoses but with this fitting on blocks, and rather use 90° copper elbows which are less restricting

[dacooltech]

Morphling- You need to use "tube inserts" with soft tubing, only if you're inserting the tube in to the quick connect fittings BTW. Otherwise they're not needed. (You already knew this, but someone reading this might get confused

I used to use my first Swiftech blocks just like you did. I was using copper pipe as an adapter for silicone tubing.

[Zeta09]

Ahhhhh Morphling 1,

Just the man I was needing to talk to and this is the thread I have been searching for the last couple of days but let me digress.

I am looking to switch out the tube connector fittings on a Hydor L30 with these Festo fittings shown on the Asetek Waterchill v2. kit. I have most of my components on my rig with John Guest fittings and have to been looking into modding the other pump for a while.

Unfortunately Morph I don't think we have a Festo distributor per se in the States. I think I would have to get the fittings direct and I would only need like 2 or 4 at the most. Not real sure they would do such a small order.

I had figured you would use the 1/4" pipe thread but I do wonder are those Festo fittings BSPT? I am not sure what the thread is on those Hydor pumps Do you all know? I also need to know if you had used the tube inserts previously before using that piece of plastic that I see in the pic? I see that that is the similar piece that is used in the Swiftech stopper kits and I would need to know the diameter you have on that piece or would the tube inserts still work with the Festo stuff?'

Ahhh so many questions, but thanks in advance

Anyway take a look at my threads on AMdmb.com and overclockers as well or just answer me here. I appreciate it guys.

[guandi]

quickcouplings like that are the bain of my life. i have to use them at work to join high pressure air lines on trucks and trailors. they are brilliant for short term use, but if they are used anywhere there is vibration (on a w/c pump etc.) the metal teeth wear through the pipe (especially on harder plastics) and pshhht! you have a leak again. i dont trust them

[Zeta09]

Well quandi,

I don't know about Festo but the John Guest fittings seem to be ok so far (knocking on wood). They are, however, made for fluids. Festo fittings are not. I do wonder how long they would last and had asked such on another post (I think over at OC). Still I would like to try them at least. It could spell trouble but I thought the first Waterchill kit had the festo fittings as well. Correct me if I am wrong.

[kusojiji]

Hey, that's what I did with my maxi jets to get the water from my water bucket to my fish tank (approx 3 ft head). I have a maxi jet 600 and a modified 400 (600 impeller). I also drilled out/reamed the intake area on both pumps to get more suction. One feeding the other to get it over the hill.