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Unread 02-18-2004, 09:36 PM   #1
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Will i need an extra heatercore?

I'm building my first water cooled system.
plan to use a BIX with 2 120mm fans (push pull)
I plan to have a WW on the cpu and DD Z-Chip Block on the north bridge.
and MCP600 for pump.
I was thinking of getting/ making HD waterblock for 2 hardrives (side mount)
mebe watercool my powersupply as well.
I have enough room(i think) to put a dual 80mm heatercore Black ice micro with
push pull 80mm fans on it as well but do i realy need to?
discussion of point of diminishing returns.
I have a P4C800-E / 2.6 ghz o/c to 3.05 ghz.
I plan 2morrow to get some new ram (Corsair PC4400 512M x 2)
I can overclock it to 250FSB but it crashes on occasion. i'm hoping i can go past that once i have it watercooled.

so should i put the extra Black ice micro in it or not? I have the $$$ now to buy it but may not have it later...
your opinions are very welcome
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Unread 02-19-2004, 06:09 AM   #2
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The BIX micro is the "worst" radiator out there. It's small, sure, but also restrictive, and not so good.
Better are the BIX or the BIXII. Also real good is the heatercore from dangerden (and other places)

It's bigger, but better.

It also depends on how you want to OC. I'm running my 2.8 @3720, but I have 2 heatercores and one BIX...... (and a big tower )
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If you have the skills to make a waterblock, why bother with a Black Ice? Get a heatercore and put the barbs on yourself. They are close to half the price and have more dissapating power. I use an 89 camaro heatercore, thats 7X7, with a push/pull 172mm fan combo on shrouds. It was $20. I can easily get the coolant within 2 degree C of ambient without even putting 12V on the fans. 1 degree on 12v. Just to be clear, my GPU block isnt istalled yet and there are no pelts, its only cooling a stock speed 2400xp.

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If you have the skills to make a waterblock, why bother with a Black Ice?.
I don't have the skils to make a block...
mebe design one for the harddrives .. but make one.. don't think so...
have to find someone to do that for me.
also the extra heater core I can add would be 80mm by 160mm.. not much for space.(small case) as it is to put in the BIX i have removed the floppy drives and will probly only have room for 2 HD's , DVD Burner and Matrix Orbital LCD.
not like i use a floppy much anymore anyways...
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The BIX micro is the "worst" radiator out there. It's small, sure, but also restrictive, and not so good.
Better are the BIX or the BIXII. Also real good is the heatercore from dangerden (and other places)

It's bigger, but better.
I only have enough room for 80mmx160mm or 3.1"x6.3"
the bix micro is the only thing i know will fit there.
as I mentioned I already have a BIX, but would i beneifit with a second rad?
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It also depends on how you want to OC. I'm running my 2.8 @3720, but I have 2 heatercores and one BIX...... (and a big tower )
I'm looking for the best overclock that i can get in a small package that is relitivly quite. so I have to make some compremises here... if i can get 250mhz FSB stable i's be happy... of course if i can squeeze out more......

after I finnish this case i am working on now I have another I want to watercool and it's a full height tower. but that is my next project.
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