help on wb design

crafty_guy · 04-20-2004, 04:03 PM

Let me start out by saying I'm new to all this waterblock making :P. After searching on the net for some possible designs for my 1st attempt at making a waterblock, I have finally found one that looks promising...problem is..it's in German.. HERE
If someone could translate the dimensions on the site (if there are any that is..) or at least give me an idea on what size materials (and what kind of plastic top and middle section to use). Also, the only tools i currently have access to are a dremel and a drill (not a drill press), but I'm very patient when drilling, so as long as it's possible, I'll give it an honest attempt

|kbn| · 04-20-2004, 04:33 PM

Looks like 80x50x5mm baseplate (I dont speak german..). Shoudnt be too hard too make. I assume its made by cross cutting with a dremmel disk and they didnt use a drill first to make holes (like in a #rotor block).

Im thinking of making a similar block for my cpu but I cant decide if channels, like a white water, or pins like this/#rotor blocks, would give the best results. I made a WW clone for my 9700 gpu block with a dremmel which worked well..
Im limited to the same tools you are

Plastic for the top will mainly depend on what you can get.. In the UK theres not many places to buy the right size plastic but there should be plenty in the US. Polyethelene is perfect if you dont mind the block being opaque white. Polycarbonate/derlin etc.. should be easy to get, thats what most people use.

Dont copy the design exactly, you can see from the pics what the mesurements are roughly and that might help make a better block than the original.
One improvement I think would be to make more pins above and below the core esp where the outlets join as there'd be less need for the extra middle top though itd still be needed. It would make it less restrictive + increased surface area (which would still get warm enough to still benifit from extra cooling area).

crafty_guy · 04-20-2004, 05:18 PM

The thing I liked about the design was that it forced the water to 1st flow through all the pins before being routed around the core area to the outlet. If I cut more pins below the core where the outlet joined, then it'd no longer need to flow to the sides of the core since it would have a direct rout to the outlet, which I don't want.
I have a ton of plexiglass, would this be adequate for use as the top and middle section of that design? Also, what would you recommend I use for bonding the plexiglass to the copper, and should I use a gasket somehow in the mixture, or just use the bonding agent as a sort of seal as well?

crafty_guy · 04-20-2004, 05:19 PM

One more thing, on the middle piece of plastic in the pictures, there's a narrower hole where the inlet is, to make a sort of jet, I presume?

Puzzdre · 04-20-2004, 06:27 PM

You can try this translation service (I did it, crappy but better than nothing)

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/

For sealant you can use bathroom silicone, goop, loctite or other liquid gasket sealant you can find, no need to bond the layers permanently...

And yes, the thingie in the middle looks like a 'jet', but either too big for only one jet and too restrictive or too small and restrictive to be a full sized center inlet IMHO

Cheers and g'luck!

crafty_guy · 04-20-2004, 07:33 PM

So how should I modify the jet 'thingie' in the middle to where it's effective enough?

trit187 · 04-26-2004, 09:34 AM

for easy of contruction and saving a few dremel disks a #rotor looks a little easier. there is lots of info about them around here... just try a search..
*added bonus:most of it is in english
edit:that middle plates seems really restrictive too.
and also depending on p4/amd you might want to adjust the size of the area you cut out.. p4=bigger because of heatspreader

crafty_guy · 04-26-2004, 09:38 AM

Yea, there are TONS of #rotor blocks floating around out there. Thing is, I have way more dremel disks than I know what to do with (dad got stocked up on them for a project he never did). Plus, I think I've already sold myself on this plan, with the help of my German-speaking friend of course

trit187 · 04-26-2004, 10:00 AM

ok good. if you want to be original you could try to combine the two ideas, or modify it to your own. the #rotor pins seem to take a better shape.. combinded with the middle plate and diagnole crosses.. and you could have a pretty original block. (dispite the paradoxicalness of that statement)

*and yes i said paradoxicalness dispite its questionable legitamacy

04-20-2004, 04:03 PM	#1
crafty_guy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corpus Christi,TX Posts: 5	help on wb design Let me start out by saying I'm new to all this waterblock making :P. After searching on the net for some possible designs for my 1st attempt at making a waterblock, I have finally found one that looks promising...problem is..it's in German.. HERE If someone could translate the dimensions on the site (if there are any that is..) or at least give me an idea on what size materials (and what kind of plastic top and middle section to use). Also, the only tools i currently have access to are a dremel and a drill (not a drill press), but I'm very patient when drilling, so as long as it's possible, I'll give it an honest attempt

04-20-2004, 06:27 PM	#5
Puzzdre Cooling Savant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 969	You can try this translation service (I did it, crappy but better than nothing) http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/ For sealant you can use bathroom silicone, goop, loctite or other liquid gasket sealant you can find, no need to bond the layers permanently... And yes, the thingie in the middle looks like a 'jet', but either too big for only one jet and too restrictive or too small and restrictive to be a full sized center inlet IMHO Cheers and g'luck! __________________ 'Out of cheese error... ...please reboot the universe (press the GBL to continue)'

04-20-2004, 04:33 PM	#2
\|kbn\| Cooling Savant Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: W. Sussex, UK Posts: 329	Looks like 80x50x5mm baseplate (I dont speak german..). Shoudnt be too hard too make. I assume its made by cross cutting with a dremmel disk and they didnt use a drill first to make holes (like in a #rotor block). Im thinking of making a similar block for my cpu but I cant decide if channels, like a white water, or pins like this/#rotor blocks, would give the best results. I made a WW clone for my 9700 gpu block with a dremmel which worked well.. Im limited to the same tools you are Plastic for the top will mainly depend on what you can get.. In the UK theres not many places to buy the right size plastic but there should be plenty in the US. Polyethelene is perfect if you dont mind the block being opaque white. Polycarbonate/derlin etc.. should be easy to get, thats what most people use. Dont copy the design exactly, you can see from the pics what the mesurements are roughly and that might help make a better block than the original. One improvement I think would be to make more pins above and below the core esp where the outlets join as there'd be less need for the extra middle top though itd still be needed. It would make it less restrictive + increased surface area (which would still get warm enough to still benifit from extra cooling area).

04-20-2004, 05:18 PM	#3
crafty_guy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corpus Christi,TX Posts: 5	The thing I liked about the design was that it forced the water to 1st flow through all the pins before being routed around the core area to the outlet. If I cut more pins below the core where the outlet joined, then it'd no longer need to flow to the sides of the core since it would have a direct rout to the outlet, which I don't want. I have a ton of plexiglass, would this be adequate for use as the top and middle section of that design? Also, what would you recommend I use for bonding the plexiglass to the copper, and should I use a gasket somehow in the mixture, or just use the bonding agent as a sort of seal as well?

04-20-2004, 05:19 PM	#4
crafty_guy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corpus Christi,TX Posts: 5	One more thing, on the middle piece of plastic in the pictures, there's a narrower hole where the inlet is, to make a sort of jet, I presume?

04-20-2004, 07:33 PM	#6
crafty_guy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corpus Christi,TX Posts: 5	So how should I modify the jet 'thingie' in the middle to where it's effective enough?

04-26-2004, 09:34 AM	#7
trit187 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: shanghai, china Posts: 200	for easy of contruction and saving a few dremel disks a #rotor looks a little easier. there is lots of info about them around here... just try a search.. *added bonus:most of it is in english edit:that middle plates seems really restrictive too. and also depending on p4/amd you might want to adjust the size of the area you cut out.. p4=bigger because of heatspreader

04-26-2004, 09:38 AM	#8
crafty_guy Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Corpus Christi,TX Posts: 5	Yea, there are TONS of #rotor blocks floating around out there. Thing is, I have way more dremel disks than I know what to do with (dad got stocked up on them for a project he never did). Plus, I think I've already sold myself on this plan, with the help of my German-speaking friend of course

04-26-2004, 10:00 AM	#9
trit187 Cooling Savant Join Date: May 2003 Location: shanghai, china Posts: 200	ok good. if you want to be original you could try to combine the two ideas, or modify it to your own. the #rotor pins seem to take a better shape.. combinded with the middle plate and diagnole crosses.. and you could have a pretty original block. (dispite the paradoxicalness of that statement) *and yes i said paradoxicalness dispite its questionable legitamacy

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