Will this setup be effective?

[Jigglypuff]

I've been lurking for a week or two now, and I think I'm nearing the final plans for my setup. So far, I've decided on the following:

Swiftech MCP600 pump
D-Tek WW CPU block

As for a radiator... The case everything is going in is a Lian Li PC61. It's not exactly a very spacious case. I dislike the notion of having to cut a larger blowhole, so a top mount radiator is not an option. The only place to place a radiator would be in front of the intake fans then. By my measurements, a BIX will fit perfectly. However, will it be able to handle the heat from my processor (I estimate around 120W using this). With some more modification, I can fit a D-Tek JR-120. With even more work, a D-Tek Pro Core.

I currently plan on only cooling the CPU, but I would like the ability to add on a chipset and GPU block (hence the Swifty as the pump I've chosen). This would make the heat load about 150W. What would you guys recommend in this situation?

[pauldenton]

Originally Posted by Jigglypuff

I've been lurking for a week or two now, and I think I'm nearing the final plans for my setup. So far, I've decided on the following:

Swiftech MCP600 pump
D-Tek WW CPU block

As for a radiator... The case everything is going in is a Lian Li PC61. It's not exactly a very spacious case. I dislike the notion of having to cut a larger blowhole, so a top mount radiator is not an option. The only place to place a radiator would be in front of the intake fans then. By my measurements, a BIX will fit perfectly. However, will it be able to handle the heat from my processor (I estimate around 120W using this). With some more modification, I can fit a D-Tek JR-120. With even more work, a D-Tek Pro Core.

I currently plan on only cooling the CPU, but I would like the ability to add on a chipset and GPU block (hence the Swifty as the pump I've chosen). This would make the heat load about 150W. What would you guys recommend in this situation?

dtek have discontinued the pro-core in favour of the smaller JR-120.

given your unwillingness to cut the top, you're left with a JR-120 (or chevette core if you're willing to make the space) - unless you go external...

whether you need a bigger rad really depends on your noise tolerance - since the airflow makes a huge difference to the rads performance...

[Jigglypuff]

I managed to find a couple pro cores for sale on various forums, so it's still an option. But what you're saying is that a BIX with very good airflow through it will perform just as well as a heater core with decent airflow? I guess I need to lurk some more...

[pauldenton]

Originally Posted by Jigglypuff

I managed to find a couple pro cores for sale on various forums, so it's still an option. But what you're saying is that a BIX with very good airflow through it will perform just as well as a heater core with decent airflow? I guess I need to lurk some more...

you may find these of interest
http://thermal-management-testing.com/ThermoChill.htm
http://thermal-management-testing.co...esting%201.htm
http://www.thermal-management-testin...issipation.htm

basically the less efficient the rad (at whatever airflow it's getting) is, the higher the temperature of the water will rise to until an equilibrium is reached, when the heat entering the system from the block(s), pump etc equals the heat shed by the rad (higher temperature differential>higher heat shed) your block(s) will cool the cpu to however many degrees over the water temp, so every degree higher the water is will translate into a degree higher CPU temp.

[fhorst]

Don't make a to big fuzz about it.
I have a BIX, a heatercore and a double heatercore. Also a rad from astec (waterchill), one from a moped (pirelly), one from a motor cycle (honda), and one from my koolance set.
I also have a hydrocool, but I let that set intact.

You can say I collected quite some in my goal for perfection

The name of the game here is to match.
A heatercore is less restrictend with waterflow and airflow, but it is bigger.
For a heatercore (e.g. JR-120) you need to have a fan capable of flow, and not so much pressure, but nice silent (e.g. PAPST 4412)
For a BIX you need a fan capable of more pressure (Sunon or PAPST 4312 e.g.)
A heatercore will be more silent, as you can use more quiet fans.

But this also has to do with the rest of your setup.
I also have the MCP600, and it is as "silent" as a PAPST4312 at 12v.

So as you have the pump, the rest is just to match. Wat do you preffer to hear? Pump or fan...

Don't worry to much about the temps. the difference between a BIX and a heatercore with the right fan is not mesurable with my onboard sensor.

Lapping your Wite Water and CPU will (I lapped them to 2500 grid)

[Jigglypuff]

Yeah, I need to stop worrying about having the absolute best suited setup. I think I'm going to settle with the following:

D-Tek Whitewater
D-Tek JR-120 w/ 2 120mm fans
Swiftech MCP600 pump

How's it look? It's probably a bit overkill for a single block system, but the future may have more. The BIX is simply too expensive considering it's not as good as the JR-120. It won't be too difficult to make it fit in the front. With the money saved, I could put it towards something else.

[fhorst]

way to go! You can put in a nice reservoir vor filling and bleeding. I got me a bayres.

Don't forget to lap yout WW to at least 1200 grid sandpaper. Also your CPU needs some lapping (P4) (don't try to lap the core of an AMD) And Atrec silver 5

Keep your tubes as short as possible and don't kink them.

If you go for the WW and the bayres, you can keep the outlet of the WW split, This helps a bit.

and if possible use 1/2" tubes. 3/8" will work, but then you have 1 .5 to 2.5 higer temp.

Place the fans in push pull

[Jigglypuff]

Can't wait to start assembling it. I've been using an old PII 366MHz laptop since I gave away my old computer. I'm ready for something a little faster