A new ProCooling

Joe · 12-07-2003, 11:23 PM

Well with the release of Vbb3.0 Gamma the forum code is solidifying to the point that I can start the work to get the forum upgraded along with the associated scripts.

On top of that I am starting to work on a full site overhaul, basing much of it on borrowing script work I designed for MWL, and the MWL registration system, and some info from Wizzard from OCFaq.com .

Lotsa worked involved with a full site overhaul.

pHaestus · 12-07-2003, 11:29 PM

I am assuming this is all the result of "babe of the day" requests?

Boli · 12-08-2003, 02:31 AM

"babe of the day"?!?!

Where is she, I need someone with nice.... err presonality to wish me good (morning/evening/afternoon) everytime I log on.

~ Boli

BillA · 12-08-2003, 10:29 AM

HEY

can you put the babes into a database so we can write the specs ?
shit
then we'll need a 'buy one now' button too

pHaestus · 12-08-2003, 10:41 AM

Yea when we are doing cooling reviews and how tos then we can do things "the old fashioned way" but when dealing with female nudity then the latest and greatest in web design must be used posthaste

jaydee · 12-08-2003, 11:35 AM

So whats the benifits with updating to vB3.0? New features?

Joe · 12-08-2003, 11:44 AM

free BJ's and such for admins of it.

and its 1 more than 2 which makes it better I guess

jaydee · 12-08-2003, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
free BJ's and such for admins of it.

and its 1 more than 2 which makes it better I guess

LOL, clarification at it's finest!

Yo-DUH_87 · 12-08-2003, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe
and its 1 more than 2 which makes it better I guess

But does it have fashy buttons and blinkey dials?

KnightElite · 12-11-2003, 11:57 AM

I was talking to pH about this a while back, and one of the problems he mentionned, which would be inherent to fully converting the site over to aa PHP based system like we have at OCfaq, is all the existing content in the old format. I had a thought though... what if all the articles get converted to a new PHP format, etc.... and that everythign is fully integrated. Then, in order for all the linkage everywhere to still work, one could set up the existing article pages as automatic forwarding to the new location of the article, preserving old links.

pHaestus · 12-11-2003, 12:05 PM

yea but someone still has to convert 400 pages of content over to new system if we were to integrate old reviews.

I think we'll have to somehow graft the new system on top of the old to make it "go" without a huge amount of hassle.

Yo-DUH_87 · 12-11-2003, 12:31 PM

A database powered system that would allow the other members of the staff (pH, brians, etc.) to enter reviews/articles would also rock, but there is still the problem of converting the existing content to use the new system.

If you are wanting to stay with the static pages, a good CSS file could make the job of formatting stuff much easier for you.

I thought that KE's suggestion is prety good, create a page that is just static links to "old" content, and enter the older atricles into the database over a long period of time.

But what do I know about site design :shrug:

arken420 · 12-11-2003, 01:45 PM

We're talking basic text files for the articles, right? No Word, or PDF crap.

If that's the case just use lovely Perl or Python(Eck) to replace old links with new links. You've got a mix of relative and full-path links, I'm sure, so it would just be a matter of determining which substitutions need to be made for those two types of links.

You can use the same script, with minor adjustments, on your img links as well.

You could very easily script the whole process with a little time and thought put into it. It's no biggie, just thought I'd give you another avenue to look down, instead of trying to do it by hand.

There is a good html parser for Perl, Html::TokeParser, that would allow you to split your pages into categorized chunks, like all the text, then font tags and finally any body tags and whatnot. What I said before about scripting the whole thing is still doable, just takes a bit of thought, and it would still end up taking less time than probably any other means.

Joe · 12-11-2003, 01:53 PM

Hehe thanks for the help, but I already have a plan and a rouch idea how I am going to execute this

Also perl is not lovely, perl is the antichrist of languages

arken420 · 12-11-2003, 03:11 PM

perl.exe -e"($crap = shift) =~ s/\w*(.*?)\s\w{3}(\s.{20})\w*(\s.*)/No$1$2savior$3/; print $crap;" "Also perl is not lovely, perl is the antichrist of languages"

Now that's a bit better....

Joe · 12-11-2003, 11:17 PM

God I hate perl

hehehe

arken420 · 12-12-2003, 04:02 AM

That's just something I can't understand. I mean, Perl, is the God of jerry-rigged languages. I can do pretty much anything I want with it without having to follow rules, or structure what-so-ever. As an OC'er, Mod'er and Opensource-wiener Perl fits my personality the best. In my mind, if duct tape is everyone's best friend, then Perl is programming's duct tape. Anyways, PHP syntax-wise, is alot lot Perl anyways, but I don't really want to get ino a nasty heated discussion about this here. I was merely giving a suggestion about how to re-tool the old php pages so that they would work with/if the new design. I'm sure one of these days, I'll go put on a robe and sandals. I'll grab my walking stick and travel into the world preaching to the non-believers to lay down their Java, throw away their .NET and release themselves from the shackles of structured programming! So I won't start here. I'd be interested in hearing more about your plan, after it's finished. This could be a DO's/DON'Ts of site redesign, if you wanted to do that sort of thing. Anyways, best of luck, I know these things can get tricky fast.

jaydee · 12-22-2003, 06:22 PM

Still looks like the old ProCooling?!? :shrug:

BillA · 12-22-2003, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pHaestus
I am assuming this is all the result of "babe of the day" requests?

still no babes ???

Joe · 12-22-2003, 06:33 PM

ive been busy working on the other code changes first

Theres a good deal of work to be done, to incorporate the changes pH wants and the changes I want into the site.

Dieter@be · 12-31-2003, 12:37 PM

I like the "post preview" in the e-mail notifications, quite handy

jaydee · 12-31-2003, 12:48 PM

Heh, looking good. Was about to say there was no quote button, but all you have to do is hit the reply button on any of the posts and it quotes it.

Groth · 01-07-2004, 01:04 AM

I've got a request! I generally enter the forums via the "new posts" search, and am really fond of that button to go to the first unread post in a given thread. Problem is, if I reply to a message, all the threads are marked read and my favorite button disappears.

Joe · 01-08-2004, 11:12 AM

upgraded to RC2 today, let me know if it fixes any of your bitching

Groth · 01-08-2004, 09:17 PM

Yup, I'm happy now!

Or at least happier....still no babe o' the day?

And the 90 seconds timeout between between seaches can be a PITA, but I respect the intent.

12-07-2003, 11:23 PM	#1
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	A new ProCooling Well with the release of Vbb3.0 Gamma the forum code is solidifying to the point that I can start the work to get the forum upgraded along with the associated scripts. On top of that I am starting to work on a full site overhaul, basing much of it on borrowing script work I designed for MWL, and the MWL registration system, and some info from Wizzard from OCFaq.com . Lotsa worked involved with a full site overhaul. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-07-2003, 11:29 PM	#2
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	I am assuming this is all the result of "babe of the day" requests? __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

12-08-2003, 02:31 AM	#3
Boli Cooling Savant Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Blackburn / Dundee Posts: 451	"babe of the day"?!?! Where is she, I need someone with nice.... err presonality to wish me good (morning/evening/afternoon) everytime I log on. ~ Boli __________________ 1800+ @ 2247 (214x10.5) - STABLE, 512MB PC3700 TwinX Cosair RAM, NF7-S v2.0, GeForce3 Ti200 Parallel BIM, 120.1 Thermochill, Eheim 1048, Maze 3, Maze4 GPU, "Z" chipset, 1/2" tubing, PC-70: 5x120mm & 9x80mm fans. Internet Server & second machine (folding 24/7): 512MB DDR RAM, XP2000+

12-08-2003, 10:41 AM	#5
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	Yea when we are doing cooling reviews and how tos then we can do things "the old fashioned way" but when dealing with female nudity then the latest and greatest in web design must be used posthaste __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

12-08-2003, 11:44 AM	#7
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	free BJ's and such for admins of it. and its 1 more than 2 which makes it better I guess __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-08-2003, 10:29 AM	#4
BillA CoolingWorks Tech Guy Formerly "Unregistered" Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Posts: 2,371.493,106 Posts: 4,440	HEY can you put the babes into a database so we can write the specs ? shit then we'll need a 'buy one now' button too

12-08-2003, 11:35 AM	#6
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	So whats the benifits with updating to vB3.0? New features?

12-11-2003, 11:57 AM	#10
KnightElite Cooling Savant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 294	I was talking to pH about this a while back, and one of the problems he mentionned, which would be inherent to fully converting the site over to aa PHP based system like we have at OCfaq, is all the existing content in the old format. I had a thought though... what if all the articles get converted to a new PHP format, etc.... and that everythign is fully integrated. Then, in order for all the linkage everywhere to still work, one could set up the existing article pages as automatic forwarding to the new location of the article, preserving old links. __________________ Can anyone else here say that they have a watercooled monster that's 45" tall?

12-11-2003, 12:05 PM	#11
pHaestus Big Player Making Big Money Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: irc.lostgeek.com #procooling.com Posts: 4,782	yea but someone still has to convert 400 pages of content over to new system if we were to integrate old reviews. I think we'll have to somehow graft the new system on top of the old to make it "go" without a huge amount of hassle. __________________ Getting paid like a biker with the best crank... -MF DOOM

12-11-2003, 12:31 PM	#12
Yo-DUH_87 Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 230	A database powered system that would allow the other members of the staff (pH, brians, etc.) to enter reviews/articles would also rock, but there is still the problem of converting the existing content to use the new system. If you are wanting to stay with the static pages, a good CSS file could make the job of formatting stuff much easier for you. I thought that KE's suggestion is prety good, create a page that is just static links to "old" content, and enter the older atricles into the database over a long period of time. But what do I know about site design :shrug: __________________ Signing out... Yo-DUH_87 If it works, fix it until it's broke! Then, after it's broke, add duct tape! Affordable webhosting!

12-11-2003, 01:45 PM	#13
arken420 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kailua, HI Posts: 31	We're talking basic text files for the articles, right? No Word, or PDF crap. If that's the case just use lovely Perl or Python(Eck) to replace old links with new links. You've got a mix of relative and full-path links, I'm sure, so it would just be a matter of determining which substitutions need to be made for those two types of links. You can use the same script, with minor adjustments, on your img links as well. You could very easily script the whole process with a little time and thought put into it. It's no biggie, just thought I'd give you another avenue to look down, instead of trying to do it by hand. There is a good html parser for Perl, Html::TokeParser, that would allow you to split your pages into categorized chunks, like all the text, then font tags and finally any body tags and whatnot. What I said before about scripting the whole thing is still doable, just takes a bit of thought, and it would still end up taking less time than probably any other means.

12-11-2003, 01:53 PM	#14
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	Hehe thanks for the help, but I already have a plan and a rouch idea how I am going to execute this Also perl is not lovely, perl is the antichrist of languages __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-11-2003, 03:11 PM	#15
arken420 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kailua, HI Posts: 31	perl.exe -e"($crap = shift) =~ s/\w(.?)\s\w{3}(\s.{20})\w(\s.)/No$1$2savior$3/; print $crap;" "Also perl is not lovely, perl is the antichrist of languages" Now that's a bit better....

12-11-2003, 11:17 PM	#16
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	God I hate perl hehehe __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-12-2003, 04:02 AM	#17
arken420 Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kailua, HI Posts: 31	That's just something I can't understand. I mean, Perl, is the God of jerry-rigged languages. I can do pretty much anything I want with it without having to follow rules, or structure what-so-ever. As an OC'er, Mod'er and Opensource-wiener Perl fits my personality the best. In my mind, if duct tape is everyone's best friend, then Perl is programming's duct tape. Anyways, PHP syntax-wise, is alot lot Perl anyways, but I don't really want to get ino a nasty heated discussion about this here. I was merely giving a suggestion about how to re-tool the old php pages so that they would work with/if the new design. I'm sure one of these days, I'll go put on a robe and sandals. I'll grab my walking stick and travel into the world preaching to the non-believers to lay down their Java, throw away their .NET and release themselves from the shackles of structured programming! So I won't start here. I'd be interested in hearing more about your plan, after it's finished. This could be a DO's/DON'Ts of site redesign, if you wanted to do that sort of thing. Anyways, best of luck, I know these things can get tricky fast.

12-22-2003, 06:22 PM	#18
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Still looks like the old ProCooling?!? :shrug:

12-22-2003, 06:33 PM	#20
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	ive been busy working on the other code changes first Theres a good deal of work to be done, to incorporate the changes pH wants and the changes I want into the site. __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

12-31-2003, 12:37 PM	#21
Dieter@be Cooling Neophyte Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Belgium\Wetteren Posts: 94	I like the "post preview" in the e-mail notifications, quite handy

12-31-2003, 12:48 PM	#22
jaydee Put up or Shut Up Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 6,506	Heh, looking good. Was about to say there was no quote button, but all you have to do is hit the reply button on any of the posts and it quotes it.

01-07-2004, 01:04 AM	#23
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	I've got a request! I generally enter the forums via the "new posts" search, and am really fond of that button to go to the first unread post in a given thread. Problem is, if I reply to a message, all the threads are marked read and my favorite button disappears.

01-08-2004, 11:12 AM	#24
Joe The Pro/Life Support System Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,041	upgraded to RC2 today, let me know if it fixes any of your bitching __________________ Joe - I only take this hat off for one thing... ProCooling archive curator and dusty skeleton.

01-08-2004, 09:17 PM	#25
Groth Cooling Savant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MO Posts: 781	Yup, I'm happy now! Or at least happier....still no babe o' the day? And the 90 seconds timeout between between seaches can be a PITA, but I respect the intent.

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